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    Eagle Scout 1978
    OA Lodge Chief 3 years.

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  1. ValleyBoy

    What constitutes a "public meeting"?

    I would not count it for either of the above 2 merit badges. It is not one of the type meeting listed for the Citizenship in the Community merit badge.
  2. ValleyBoy

    Real estate donation

    Plus 1 to this. The local scout camp that I attended as a youth and were my grandfather served on staff at in the 1940's was donated to the scouts sometime between 1911 and 1920. This 40 something acre camp is held in a trust by the local scout council. Around 1990 the local council became part of our neighbor council. In the mid 2000's the local council closed the camp and the speculations were that they intended to sell the property. What the new council did not know was that they did not own the property so they could not sell the property. The way the property was worded in the trust that the council held was that the scouts had the use of the property as long as they did not abandon the property. If the scouts abandoned the property the land would revert to the local city.
  3. Eagle BoR are different from other rank BoR in my district due to the fact that other rank BoR are done by persons that know the scout on the unit level whereas the members of the Eagle BoR may not have ever had any dealing with the scout. There have been many Eagle BoR that I have been a member of that the board as not even asked the scout to say the scout oath or the scout law. But one question we almost always ask is one of the following. " There are 12 scout laws if you had to remove one of the laws which one would you remove and give your reason why you would remove it for the law.' or what law would you add and give your reason." There is no right or wrong answer but as a board we are trying to get a feel for the scouts thought process.
  4. ValleyBoy

    How do camps accommodate girl troops?

    At my local councils summer camp each bath/shower house is shared between 2 campsite that will hold about 40. In the campsite my troop was located during summer camp was shared by 4 different troops. All female troops were placed in 2 campsites that shared the same bath/shower house. Everything else stayed the same.
  5. ValleyBoy

    Safety vs. Inclusion ??

    The scouter at the range in this case absolutely did the wrong thing. I have a special needs daughter and would not have had a problem if she would have not been allowed due to the fact that I know her abilities. The biggest issue to me is camp staff that do not know how to deal with special needs kids so there fallback position is potential safety issues.
  6. ValleyBoy

    Policy on going through scout totes

    Well we had one scout that had 27 knife's on him during a camping trip. His father who was on the camping trip removed all but 2 of the knifes from him.
  7. ValleyBoy

    Let's talk about Unit Numbers

    Our Troops official number is 9009. The troop was 9 until our local council merged into another council. The only time we use 9009 is on paperwork, other than that we refer to troop as Troop 9.
  8. ValleyBoy

    The "Right Way" to retire U.S. Flag...

    My Troop retires around 200 flags a year. The above is correct. The only thing that we absolutely do not do is refer to the flag retirement as a flag burning. We different people bring us a flag to be retired and tell us that they have a flag to be burned we tell them that we see a US Flag burning as a protest against our great country therefore we do not burn flags but retire the Flag by fire.
  9. ValleyBoy

    Swimsuit Patches

    Good question since females usually do not wear boxer style swim wear.
  10. ValleyBoy

    Snake bites victimize parents as much as campers

    One of the reasons that we require our scouts to wear closed toe shoes on all scout outings.
  11. ValleyBoy

    Scouts BSA implementation for girl troops

    Thanks for sharing the link. I was not aware that the troop's could use the same number. Now I can see where with the start up of the new girl troops that by having the same committee would make it easier to get the new girl unit started. My guess would be that each of the two troops have a separate charter. My question would be since both troops have the same CO do they have to have the same committee. The reason i ask this question is that i know that in the past a Pack and a Troop with the same CO could have have the same adults registered CC and unit committee members. I also know that this is not the ideal situation. I still do not like the term linked troops. But I do understand why the term is being used.
  12. ValleyBoy

    Scouts BSA implementation for girl troops

    First, I am in no way against Girls being Scouts inside the program. I am against and do not in no way like the term linked troops. As far as the question about the committee each of the troops have there own committee even though as in your case the members of both committee's might be the same. If a person is a member of both troops committee they should be focused on both troops and show NO FAVORTISM of one troop over the other. if they show favoritism to one troop over the other that they are a member of the committee they need to remove there self as a member of that committee. It is the same for Pack and Troops that share the same charter organization. Each is there own separate unit and should be treated as such. To the question of activities each unit should have there own since they are separate Troops and in reality all they should have in common is the same CO. Do not fall in the trap of thinking that just because the troop is small due to your location that the troop can not be a good scout troop. This goes for both troops of boys and also for troops of girls. Is it all right to have some join activities such as a join camping trip, YES, but remember it is two separate troops that are on the trip and that each has its own youth leadership that have to work together as equals. Just and FYI my troop for the past 4 years has attended summer camp with another local troop because of the issue of two deep leadership for summer camp. We have also had several join camping trips with this same troop. The stories us adults could tell around a campfire about join camping trips with another troop. The stories are all good with nothing bad that could not be told in mixed company. As far as scouters who do not have the experience working with a BSA scout troop it is not rocket science. Visit other troops be a fly on the wall, talk to other unit leaders on forums such as this one, or at roundtable or other local district or council activities.
  13. ValleyBoy

    How to Wear a Campaign Hat?

    Green was Boy Scouts.
  14. ValleyBoy

    Troop/Patrol dining flys

    Not really sure since I stole the picture off the web, but either type could be set up in this configuration.