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ValleyBoy last won the day on September 12 2019

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    Eagle Scout 1978
    OA Lodge Chief 3 years.

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  1. ValleyBoy

    Parents, Non-registered and YP awareness

    At this event I feel Pale Horse is correct. The reason i feel he is correct is because of the following. My council has 3 fall family campout weekends in the fall that are all at the same location. Most packs decide which weekend that they are going to attend an usually set up in one campsite. but each family attending has to register for the event with the council. The pack can reserve a campsite for all there families attending if they so desire. As a pack we would decide which weekend we would attend but each family decided if they wanted to attend that same weekend or were free to attend any of the other 2 weekends.
  2. ValleyBoy

    Parents, Non-registered and YP awareness

    At different times we have got mixed signals from my local council on what is allowed and not allowed under GTSS when it comes to the scouting program. The interpretation within my council on cub scout camping is that all cubs below webelos have to have a parent, relative over the age of 18, or guardian ( foster parent) with them when camping overnight except for council/district overnight lock-ins.
  3. ValleyBoy

    Parents, Non-registered and YP awareness

    As an registered scout leader youth protection is very important. 17 years ago while I was Cubmaster I was at a Council run cub scout family campout. There were 4 or 5 other families from our pack set up in our campsite. At that time I had only met each one of these families just several months before when there son joined the pack. About the time I was going to start cooking supper for my son and I, I received a phone call from my wife and was informed that she, my mother and daughter had been involved in a bad car accident. I informed the parents of my pack of what had happen and that I was going to have to leave. Where my automobile was parked at the camp there was no way I could leave in it without having several autos moved and no way of knowing who they belonged too. Another couple that son was in another pack who I knew very well since they lived on the same street that we did and our sons played together with offered to carry me to my home 10 miles away from the camp so that I could go to the hospital in our other vehicle. They offered to watch my son so that I did not have to take him with me. I made the decision to leave my son with them since it was the only option I had except for taking him with me. I broke the cub scout camping rules when I allowed my son to stay over night at the campout without a family member being present at the campout. Would I do the same thing again today in the same situation, yes I would.
  4. ValleyBoy

    Parents, Non-registered and YP awareness

    As a unit leader I would have a talk with that adult and inform them that since they are part of an scouting activity that they have to follow scouting YPT rules. Also that they now have one strike against them and another strike will mean they have to leave the activity.
  5. ValleyBoy

    BB-gun shooting range STOLEN (SD)

    I must be getting old because I remember Dino and Sinclair gas stations in the south back in my younger days. Have not seen one in right at 50 years.
  6. ValleyBoy

    National Leadership, Surbaugh Leave of Absense

    Pre EBOR we turn in the 2 page application, reference letters, and Completed Eagle Project workbook to the Council office.
  7. ValleyBoy

    National Leadership, Surbaugh Leave of Absense

    In my council if the SE wants to look thru the project binder he should have had the council register make him a copy when it was at the council office the first time before the BOR.
  8. ValleyBoy

    National Leadership, Surbaugh Leave of Absense

    I know for the Eagle BOR that I have been a member of that the above is what we have informed the scout that have to be returned to the council office.
  9. ValleyBoy

    Bikes in Camp?

    My locale camp allows bicycles to be used on the camp after the bicycle is checked for any safety issues and the scout is briefed on the camp rules on riding a bicycle such as areas of camp that they cannot be used such as 2 very steep dirt roads that are used as walkways between most of the campsites and main area of the camp. The scout is then issued a use permit that is attached to the bicycle. No traffic court, break any of the camp bicycle rules and the scout loses permit and can no longer used the bicycle for the rest of summer camp. ONE STRIKE and YOU are OUT RULE.
  10. ValleyBoy

    What constitutes a "public meeting"?

    I would not count it for either of the above 2 merit badges. It is not one of the type meeting listed for the Citizenship in the Community merit badge.
  11. ValleyBoy

    Real estate donation

    Plus 1 to this. The local scout camp that I attended as a youth and were my grandfather served on staff at in the 1940's was donated to the scouts sometime between 1911 and 1920. This 40 something acre camp is held in a trust by the local scout council. Around 1990 the local council became part of our neighbor council. In the mid 2000's the local council closed the camp and the speculations were that they intended to sell the property. What the new council did not know was that they did not own the property so they could not sell the property. The way the property was worded in the trust that the council held was that the scouts had the use of the property as long as they did not abandon the property. If the scouts abandoned the property the land would revert to the local city.
  12. Eagle BoR are different from other rank BoR in my district due to the fact that other rank BoR are done by persons that know the scout on the unit level whereas the members of the Eagle BoR may not have ever had any dealing with the scout. There have been many Eagle BoR that I have been a member of that the board as not even asked the scout to say the scout oath or the scout law. But one question we almost always ask is one of the following. " There are 12 scout laws if you had to remove one of the laws which one would you remove and give your reason why you would remove it for the law.' or what law would you add and give your reason." There is no right or wrong answer but as a board we are trying to get a feel for the scouts thought process.
  13. ValleyBoy

    How do camps accommodate girl troops?

    At my local councils summer camp each bath/shower house is shared between 2 campsite that will hold about 40. In the campsite my troop was located during summer camp was shared by 4 different troops. All female troops were placed in 2 campsites that shared the same bath/shower house. Everything else stayed the same.
  14. ValleyBoy

    Safety vs. Inclusion ??

    The scouter at the range in this case absolutely did the wrong thing. I have a special needs daughter and would not have had a problem if she would have not been allowed due to the fact that I know her abilities. The biggest issue to me is camp staff that do not know how to deal with special needs kids so there fallback position is potential safety issues.
  15. ValleyBoy

    Policy on going through scout totes

    Well we had one scout that had 27 knife's on him during a camping trip. His father who was on the camping trip removed all but 2 of the knifes from him.