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  1. Here is a list from a presentation I put together about Venturing Recognition and some of the other awards that could be earned. 50 Miler Award Historic Trails Award William T. Hornaday Awards World Conservation Award Boardsailing BSA BSA Lifeguard Mile Swim, BSA Snorkeling, BSA Kayaking, BSA Scuba, BSA BSA National Camping Award Physical Fitness Award Emergency Preparedness Award Crime Prevention Award Donor Awareness Patch International Activity Badge Interpreter's Strips Lifesaving and Meritorious Awards Religious E
  2. I was talking to one of the people in charge of our contingent to Jambo. Our council has only 33 youth and 9 adults registered (about 1 Troop) We have been allotted 108 (3 troops) to go. We are about a 6 hours drive away and the cost is $1895 to attend. They are discussing cutting all the side trips to lower the costs and increase attendance. He was also saying that they would like to have 2 Troops registered to go give more scouts a chance to attend but $12K down payment per Troop is due at the end of the month and he just doesnt see it happening.
  3. Ltfightr wrote: So, you have had 4 den meetings total? How did you do all of the "Den Activties" and "Go See Its" with only 4 total meetings? Or did I misunderstand? We haven't. Counting this weeks Den meeting we have had 4 Den meeting and 2 Go-See-it total since September. Both Go-See-it's were scheduled opposite a Pack leader meeting The DL is craming all the "Den Activties" into 2 Den meetings and the Den hike. What has my wife upset as the DL also changed Den meeting times from the schedule he gave us 2 weeks ago. I will be traveling for work over the next couple of
  4. I have been looking at attending PTC this summer. there is also a charter bus company than runs a daily shuttle between Colorado Springs airport and Philmont (Gray Line Colorado). I think they also run a shuttle from the Denver airport also. From Colorado Springs airport: The travel time is approx 3 1/2 hrs each way. The shuttle departs COS Airport at approx 3:00 pm each day, arriving at Philmont at 6:30pm (non-stop). The departure out of Philmont each morning is 6:00am arriving at COS Airport at 9:30-9:45am each morning, and the cost is $95 ea way or $190 roundtrip per pe
  5. My son is a Tiger Cub this year and our den schedule is just causing real problems for our family right now. As a Den we didnt start meeting until well into October. We had one Den meeting the second week of November which our Den Leader switched to a different night through an email received about 2 hours prior to the meeting. Both meetings scheduled in December were canceled the day of the meeting with no explanation. After the holidays I asked the Den Leader for a schedule of our Den meetings because with 5 kids (4 still in school) and my wife and I both working, getting every
  6. If I wait until our training committee figures out what is the correct syllabus this training will never happen. Im pretty busy this spring and placing this on hold and moving it later in the spring Im just not going to have the time to do this. I talked with one of the other trainers that is helping with this. Weve decided to run this as unit level training and just not include any district or council level training people. Our council has been encouraging units to hold training as a unit so as a Pack Trainer Im going to hold a unit level Den Chief course.
  7. I took a trip to the Scout Shop. They had copies of the Den Chief training syllabus which was the one that ccjj posted with a copyright of 2004. The one I have is copyrighted 2004 but is a 2004 printing. In looking over the material they seem to be exactly the same. I am not sure what I am going to do as I have been asked to put this trianing on hold until I get a copy of the new syllabus.
  8. Can anyone give me the number and printing date for the newest Den Chief Syllabus I have been asked to help organize this training. 2 District training chairs and the professional staff advisor for training have sent me a syllabus, but a 3rd district training chair is saying that there is a newer version out. Searching the internet only turns up the verision of the one I have. The copy I have is numbered 34450C 2004 printing.
  9. I ended up contacting the District Chair, Dictrict Commissioner, and Council Commissioner about this. It has been already resolved with the DAC. He went and looked up the Eagle App and Eagle requirements and agrees that a youth does not have to be registered in a troop and that the Venturing POR and time being active in the Crew/Ship counts toward the rank of Eagle. It seems that this couple was placing words in our DAC mouth and even though he was unfamiliar with Venturing and the Eagle requirements he took the time to review the material and find what was correct. This will be
  10. Here's your chance to let the media know where the people stand on our faith in God, as a nation. NBC is taking a poll on "In God We Trust" to stay on our American currency. The choices are: Yes. It's a violation of the principle of separation of church and state. No. The motto has historical and patriotic significance and does nothing to establish a state religion. Poll is still open so you can vote. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10103521/
  11. Unfortunately this couple are both long-time Scouters , both retired and both sit on the committee that approves Eagle projects and on EBOR and it is very rare that they miss one of these. Our DE doesnt have a clue on what Scouting is about. Hes been a DE for a couple of years and its his first involvement with Scouting. The advice you all have given to read the requirements, Eagle App and Advancement Committee Policies and Procedures Guidelines are exactly what this person has told me to do and when I did I would see that he was right. My question on if this was ever a requirem
  12. Last night at our District First Aid rally I was approached by a husband and wife that are on the District Advancement Committee and they had been meaning to talk with me about my son getting his Eagle Rank. They told that I needed to get him registered in a Troop ASAP because needed to be registered in a troop to earn the rank of Eagle. They also expected him to have his POR through the Troop and be active in the Troop for 6 months prior earning Eagle. They went on to say that the DAC will not accept anything done at the Venturing level for Eagle Scout because Eagle is a Boy Scou
  13. Having my 3rd son in Cubs and having done 12 or 13 PW cars here are some quick tips. Be sure to remove all the burrs off of the axel nails using a file. Even a cheap nail file will remove them. Look under the nail head and you will see that there is metal flashing. Be prepared to removed weights at the weigh in. At our PW last week I saw one dad that had to tear the car apart becasue they had sealed all the weight into the car without weighing it first. If you are not sure how muchyour car weight bring extra weights (a lot) and a fast drying super glue to the weigh in. This way
  14. roguedawg wrote: Try our neighbor up north and the CSA. We did two international campouts back in 1982 and 1984 with the Canadians. It was a good time. Of course we were in New York which is a little closer to the border than you are. One year the US hosted and the other year the Canadians did. We had a contigency of about 75 scouts. I traded loads of patches. That camp-oree still exists and is done the last weekend in September. I'm only 1-1/2 hours form the border and my district does this instead of a local fall camp-o-ree. I wouldn't be looking at our neighbors to the no
  15. There is no time limit for the completion of Merit Badges other than the age of 18. This in on page 34 of the Advancement Committee Policies and Procedures guide. This can be purchased at your local scout store or it can be downloaded at: http://www.gwinnettbsa.org/downloads/2008AdvancementGuideBook.pdf
  16. I am considering skipping the Packs Blue and Gold Banquet this year Why? 2 reasons 1) I just found out that the organizer has gotten the Blue and Gold Banquet down to 4-1/2 hours, not including setup, tear down or the 45 min pre-gathering. She has been asked a couple of times to shorten it (the first schedule was almost 6 hours) and insists that this is as short as she can make it. The CM and CC (or the other leaders) dont seem to think the length is a problem and seem to be giving her free run. My 6 year old Tiger Cub is just not going to sit through something this long. 2)
  17. from the FAQ section of the National OA site: http://www.oa-bsa.org/qanda/qa-52.htm Q/A: Camping Requirement Interpretation Q: Who decides what camping activities qualify for the camping requirement needed for election to the Order of the Arrow? A: With the camping requirement, as with all other eligibility requirements, it is the Unit Leader's job to interpret whether a Scout has met the requirement. As stated in the Guide for Officers and Advisers (#34997A, 1999 revision, page 20): "Unit Leader Approval. To become eligible for election, a Boy Scout or Varsity S
  18. I used to be a Beaver, and a good old old Beaver too. But now I've finished Beavering, I don't know what to do. I'm growing old and feeble, and I can Beaver no more, So I'm going to work my ticket if I can. Back to Gillwell, happy land; I'm going to work my ticket if I can. CNYScouter I used to be a Beaver... NE-III-175
  19. I recieved my Eagle in 1973. Perhaps this was due to the change in Eagle requirements that went from 21 MB's to 24 MB's. I know that for my twin brother and I and another set of brothers in our Troop pushed to get our Eagle done as we were grandfathered in to the old requiiremnts until a certain date. And it wasn't just earning 3 more MB's, if I remember right, they also changed the required MB's.
  20. YPT is not required to for an SM/ASM to wear the "Trained" Patch. per www.scouting.org: Scoutmasters and assistant Scoutmasters are considered trained when they have completed New Leader Essentials, Scoutmaster and Assistant Scoutmaster Leader Specific Training, and Introduction to Outdoor Leader Skills http://www.scouting.org/BoyScouts/NewLeaderTraining.aspx(This message has been edited by CNYScouter)
  21. Your Troop may do things different but there is no official position of Assistant Scoutmaster in-training in the BSA. My question is, since only SMs and ASMs are allowed to sign off on requirements and do other Troop actions, when do other Troops consider ASMs to be functional? SMs and ASMs are not the only one allowed to sign off requirements. The SM can designate anyone they feel qualified. I agree that an SM should empower youth to do most of the signing of requirements for T-2-1. When they first express interest in becoming ASMs? When they fill out an application? As
  22. My sons Cub Pack just watched this for a Family Movie Night. One thing that stood out to me was that the town didnt have a Boy Scout Troop because no one would step up to be Scoutmaster. It doesnt sound a lot different then what is happening today in many places.
  23. If you are NOT a registered Merit Badge Counselor, than you can not teach ANY merit badges, ANYWHERE, to ANYONE. I have to disagee with this. You do not have to be a Merit Badge Counselor to teach a Merit Badge. A registered Merit Badge Counselor must sign that a Scout completed the MB. At most Scout summer camps staffers teach MB's all the time without being a registed MBC. The Blue card (or whatever you use) is signed by the MBC (usually the program Area director) when a Scout finishes the MB.
  24. I used to be on the Venturing Crews need to be there own unit bandwagon until recently when I became involved with a Crew that started exactly the same way that Eagle92 is describing. The crew was first started for the sisters of boys in the troops and for a few older Scouts that had made Eagle and where looking for something to keep active. The boys in the troop really had no problem with these young ladies as they had around the Troop with their brothers and they saw them at school every day. At first the Venturing Crew worked right along with troop. They meet at the same time
  25. BrianScout One of the other changes that our Council Commissioner said was coming is that more and more training is going to be available online. He said that one big reason is that new (younger) leaders are getting their information from the internet and the BSA is responding to this. I think another reason is the lack of consistency between council training and having this training online keeps the content the same. This also frees up a shrinking training staff to do the courses that a more hands-on approach is required.
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