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  1. Last night I attended a council-wide commissioners meeting. Although this was not the main topic of the meeting, our council commissioner let us know about some of the changes that he has been told will be coming and mandatory training for all contact leaders will be initiated from National sometime in late 2010 or 2011. This would be YPT, the new This is Scouting that replaces NLE and Leader Specific. In the after the meeting, parking lot meeting, I asked him about mandatory training. He said that he heard this from the NER president in the monthly regional conference cal
  2. Since your son is already 18 he should remove the Life Scout rank and JASM POR patch from his uniform. As others pointed out the ECOH is a formality. The date he reached Eagle is his BOR date. An adult can wear the Eagle medal for COHs and other special occasions. For this major council event I would have him wear the Eagle medal and not have him sew on the Eagle knot only to take it off at a later date. As this is for 400 major financial supporters of the local Council I would think about the impression he wants to make to this group and wearing the Eagle medal makes a bi
  3. Crew21_Adv in your scenario with the Aunt and Uncle previously trained in Cub Scout Specifics requiring them to be retrained, IMO, would depend when they took the training. Its only my opinion, but if the Aunt and Uncle had done training 20 years ago they would need to redo training. I started again this year with Tigers. Even in the 5 years since my next oldest son was in Cubs, the Cub Scout program has gone through enough changes that I am glad I redid Cub Leader Specifics. In my council to retake the training you can volunteer to be a trainer for Cub Specifics. I help d
  4. If had to make a guess about what is considered a "Trained' leader it would be the same as the requirements to take WB21C which would be the same for a leader to wear the "Trained" patch, NLE (or the new course coming out), YPT and the Leader Specific training for your postion. I don't think it is a bad thing that an adult leader who took training a long time ago be required to take new courses to be refreshed in the current BSa program. After being involved with a Troop that hadn't sent anyone to training in over 10 years because the current SM and ASM's are considered trained, eve
  5. While at our councils Scouting University last weekend I heard from 2 different people and at 2 different times, one a District training Chair, the other a District Commissioner (from a different District) that in the next couple of years that National is going to make training mandatory to be a registered leader in the BSA. I asked both of them about the loss of units because of Mandatory Training but both said that that our council is prepared to lose units due to not having enough trained leaders to recharter the unit. I know that our council tried mandatory training in the past b
  6. I have read in many postings about a council having a DE just for Venturing. How many of you out there actually have a DE just for Venturing Crews? I asked my DE if anyone at council was handling Venturing Crews and basically said that he had never heard of a council operating that way. In my council Crews are basically lumped in with Troops and handled District by District. The problem I see with this is that only one district has more than 4 Crews in it so most crews get very little support because there a so few in any one District. I received a list of all the Crews/S
  7. My son earned the Den Chief Service Award (Red, White and Blue Shoulder Cord) while he was in a Troop and has asked me if he can wear this with his Green Venturing Uniform. I couldnt find the answer searching the Web and would like to know if the BSA says it is OK or not to wear this with the Venturing uniform.
  8. The last 3 or 4 times my son went to the local scout store with me he asks if he makes Eagle will I get him the engraved Eagle Scout Dog tags. Yesterday my son, wife and I went to the Scout store to pick up some Cub equipment and patches for his younger brother. When he went to show Mom the Eagle Scout Dog Tags he couldn't find them and when I asked if they were out of stock I was told they no longer make them. If anyone sees them in your local scout store can you PM me the number as I would really like to get them for him. He as only 3 req. MB's to finish (all 90% done) an
  9. Our council treats Tomahawk (or Ax) throwing just like archery or BB Guns or sling shots. Over the summer our council ran a Cub Scout Shooting camp where this was one of the activities. My 6 year old Tiger Cub got the chance to try and throw a small Tomahawk at a wooden target. Most of the youger cubs didn't have the strength to throw far enough but a WEBELOS in our group stuck one in the target. Tomahawk throwing is only done (just as BB Guns or Archery) as a District or Council Event. A range similar to an archery range was roped off and only one Cub (or parent) was allowe
  10. At the Pack meeting last night the DL told all the parents that he expects our Tigers to earn the Bobcat badge at the November Pack meeting. So far we have had only one Den meeting and for the next meeting we are going to a local TV station. The DL admitted that we were a month behind because he didnt get thongs together as fast as he should have. If my son is going to earn Bobcat by the next Pack meeting I will need to work with him a good deal at home. When my 2 older sons were in Cubs they picked it up pretty quick but they were a year older (Wolfs). Any suggestions on te
  11. Thanks for the advice. The majority here said go as a parent so I wore a Scouting-related T-shirt and went. I was there less than 5 minutes and a women came up to me and called me by name. I didnt recognize her but she said that she remembered me as one of the trainers when she took Cub Leader Specific. Turns out she was the CMs wife. As soon as the Pack meeting was over the CM made a beeline for me and asked if there were any Pack positions I was interested in. I asked about Pack Trainer but some one was filling that role. CM asked if I was interested in the ACM position.
  12. Sorry if I came off as I was trying to push my way into a Pack Leadership position but I have already talked with the CM over the phone and discussed this with him, just haven't figured out what position yet. This Pack, as with most Packs around here, are hurting when it comes to people willing to step up and take a role with the Pack. Anyone willing to become a Pack Leader is pretty much a done deal. I ended up looking a 4 other packs before joining this one. All I had to say was that I was willing to take on a Leadership role and I was in. Between these 4 Packs I have been o
  13. I feel the same way as jblake47 in that it is a Scout function and I should be wearing a Scout uniform as I am a registered Scout Leader (just not in the Pack). But I also think that wearing the Green Venturing uniform will make me standout more than wearing the Tan Scout uniform with no number and will allow me to blend in with the other leaders. I plan on becoming a Leader in this Pack but I just haven't been able to sit down with current Pack Leaders and discuss my role. In talking with the CM they are still getting Tigers signing up and may need to create two Tiger Dens and wo
  14. I will be going to my son's Pack meeting tonight. I missed last month's due to a work commitment. I haven't been registered in a Pack position yet but plan to. I am currently only registered as a Venturing Leader. What uniform would you wear to the Pack meeting? I have a Boy Scout uniform with no unit number or postion patch that I could wear w/blue tabs. or do I go with my registered position and wear the Venturing green? or no uniform at all as I am not a registered Pack Leader
  15. There is a Kodiak and Kodiak-X web site: http://www.kodiak-bsa.org/ The Kodiak syllabus, item no. 34193, is available through council in a convient size and spiral bound. On this site you can download a syllabus: March 2007 printing with Materials List update, Sept. 2007. The Kodiak X syllabus, item no. 34106, is restricted because the course is offered only by councils and can only be ordered by a council. There is also a Kodiak/Kodiak X Course Director's Conference web page: http://www.kodiakcdc-bsa.org/(This message has been edited by CNYScouter)
  16. AK-Eagle wrote: Instead of a wholesale change of the Wilderness Survival merit badge, what about creating an award like the current BSA Lifeguard. There is already an award that has the requirements your suggesting (or close to them). It's called the Venturing Ranger award.
  17. these are not "offical" BSA sites but I found these on the placement of the Denner Shoulder Cord: From "THE VIRTUAL CUB SCOUT INSIGNIA GUIDE" Web site: DENNER SHOULDER CORD A gold double-strand shoulder cord worn on the left shoulder with cord suspended under arm. Worn only during term of office and removed when the term is completed. The tab may be worn without the cord to indicate previous service as a denner. Note: Webelos denners with the tan/olive uniform wear the cord, without the tab, under the left epaulet. And from "The Badge and Uniform Site (Formerly the Unofficial
  18. From the Advancement quiz questions thread http://www.scouter.com/forums/viewThread.asp?threadID=202748&p=8 you can find the Advancement Committee Guide Policies and Procedures in a downloadable .pdf on-line at: http://tinyurl.com/Advancement-Guide (Thanks PeteM)
  19. It's in the Brussels Sprouts thread (Working with Kids) in a post by OldGreyEagle. http://www.scouter.com/forums/viewThread.asp?threadID=205587&p=2
  20. The kitchen is closed during the winter months (Dec-April) because the pipes will freeze if water is used. The Kitchen/Dinning Hall is a large building with no heat. Dinning Hall has 1 fireplace and 1 wood stove and is usually not used during the winter. During Feb. when the Klondike is held, temps usually don't get above freezing for the entire month.
  21. Our district is looking for new ideas to encourage units to stay overnight at our Klondike derby. Most units come for the day and only a few stay overnight. It is usually very cold and very snowy. Cabins are available but most go unused. There is a heated buildng available but the kitchen is closed during the winter. So we are looking for activities to do that would encourage units to make this maore than a daytime activity.
  22. From the Scoutmaster Handbook Chapter 4 The Boy Led Patrol Patrol Activities Most Patrol activities take place within the framework of the troop. However, patrols may also set out on day hikes, service projects and overnighters independent of the troop and free of adult leadership as long as they follow two rules: The Scoutmaster approves of the patrol activity The patrol activity does not interfere with any troop function. A patrol activity without adult supervision should be allowed only when it has been thoroughly planned well within the patrol members levels
  23. On the web site "The Dump" there are pdf's of Pioneering books that were written by John Thurman written in the 50's and 60's http://www.thedump.scoutscan.com/scouts.html I see that these were Illustrated by John Sweet. Are these the same books? i have to say that there are great project ideas in these books
  24. Doing a Goggle search for Monkey Bridge I found the following: http://www.netwoods.com/monkeybr/monkeybr.html Monkey Bridge Construction By William Hillcourt National Director of Scoutcraft Reprinted from Boy's Life for all boys bwlow the article there are links to pictures that show construction
  25. Our council tried to do implement this a few years back and got no where. Any new adult leaders registered after a certain date or registered in a new position had until the next recharter to get trained for their position or they would not be allowed to reregister. The thought behind this was that within 5 or 6 years most of our leaders would have taken training. Our council requires that you fill out an application anytime you change positions so at that time you would need to be trained The only time this would have affected a units recharter was if a unit didnt have the
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