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Looks solid, make sure you get signed up for those training courses. I don't know about the rest of you but my local council is being a little weird about the new Citizenship in Society MB; I wish they vetted every MBC for every MB as rigorously as they did my cohort for the Citizenship in Society MB. Sign up for that LNT training as well, for me it was a $40 course to be considered a trained LNT trainer for Scouts.

When I read this my gut tells me that the UMC doesn't want to get called quitters/abandoners/etc ... and they are creating a bureaucratic mess that any sane troop committee would prefer to find a new CO over instead of dealing with it.

Interesting, I searched this up on the internet and found a possible explanation. Apparently BS Canada uses that color for their Venture Rank. I also saw some unofficial mention of lower ranking cubs having worn matching colors of their neckerchief at one time (Did the cub blue uniforms have Epaulet tabs at one time?). I did see mention of Gold Epaulets in this link http://www.scoutinsignia.com/loops.htm concerning national youth representatives and AO.

Lumping is when a retirement plan has "Lump Sum" clauses that allow a member to take a lump sum payment or allow an employer to force someone out of a retirement plan with a lump sum payment. Normally plan advisors do not like either lump sum option as most retirement plans are tied to accruing value using available principal; bulk divestiture causes revisions in performance projections etc ...

To the OP, enforcement of the Clean Water Act is relegated to state and local agencies; the EPA itself rarely gets down on the ground testing etc ... OPs state agency should have been monitoring and managing in conjunction with a local water district or municipal entity while enforcing the Clean Water Act on behalf of the EPA and enforcing any additional state and local regulations. My advice concerning your camp issue is to reach out to your states natural resources agency. If you think there is a violation it would be documented and public knowledge, if it is chronic and related to a water body there would be a TMDL recommendation and a remediation plan (I suspect these exist as OP stated fines have been levied). In response to Malrux statement of grandfathered status; exemptions and grandfathered rights related to the Clean Water Act ended in 1989. The Clean Water Act had a multi-stage implementation where some entities were grandfathered into practices and policy to give them time to retrofit or build facilities within compliance, but all of those grandfather rights were expired when the final stage of implementation of the act went into affect in 1989 (which almost all of the last exemptions were related to municipal water and waste).

If it gets instituted at the cub level it will migrate up to the troop level. Look back a couple years where girls were in packs but not yet allowed in troops, and then the first class of AOLs were eligible to crossover and BSA opened the door to linked troops. It's coming, co-ed is on the way. The 1940's crowd can't fight the future forever.

Article doesn't apply to BSA. BSA requires that every camp have a Program Director and a Camp Director and both have to be NCAP certified. BSA requires that every every camp have a designated first aid provider who is current in CPR, AED, and First Aid. BSA requires all stations have at least 1 registered adult leader; with that there are the YPT and background check requirements.

Call your local American Legion and VFW post. It's in their mission to support Scouting.

If you're in a UMC chartered unit I suggest you start speaking with the nearest American Legion or VFW post that has a clubhouse. Both have it in their charter statements to support youth education and Scouting in particular. Veterans organizations as a whole just don't have the volunteers to get in your business, but they typically want to help and appear useful to the community. As a CO veterans organizations do not care about BSA unit resources, if on the off chance that one does the problem can quickly go away by asking all of your veteran relatives and friends to join the post and vote the problem away (most veterans organizations practice simple majority democracy and follow Roberts Rules of Order which makes controlling problem people very easy). One of the local Troops made the transition late last year from my neighborhood UMC (The church wanted to continue to support but had shrank in size to such an extreme that they sold their facility and bought a smaller space that could not support a BSA troop) to the nearest AL post and it has actually worked out better for the Troop in every regard except finding a parking space for the Troop trailer. On a side note, what is stopping units from forming their own non-profit and sponsoring themselves? A unit 1 town over did that (formed a non-profit called "friends of pack NNN") and then sponsored itself.

Then there might be something there. I guess it depends on what your state lets the LC's do. Using the BSA Warehouse Sale as an example; BSA sold it, used some of the proceeds to lease it back, then used some of the proceeds for the settlement fund, then put the rest into paying operating expenses.

Are those outright owned assets or assets leverages with mortgages and inversions? There are 2 sides to every balance sheet.

I don't know about you, but the LC's in my state are basically broke, and just about everything they own is leveraged already.

I am not doxing myself for your lack of understanding of the process. Everyone who hopes to get a payday out of this settlement had better pray tonight that BSA doesn't go into Chapter 7.

"Everything is sold" is absolutely not correct. Lien holders, aka mortgage lenders can just say they want their property. If a property has multiple liens whether they are tax liens, mortgages, etc ... the oldest gets priority. Subsequent lien holders can ask that the liens stay on the property which can create a "toxic asset". I know this for a fact as I use to work for the #1 toxic asset holding company in the country post 2008 housing crash. Nothing just gets liquidated, that is not how the process works at all. The right of first lien holder trumps everyone and everything. Those toxic assets are actually a very profitable enterprise as they are used to avoid paying income tax. So anyone who thinks there is a big payday over all of these mortgaged properties and physical assets that BSA and LC's own, you better keep your fingers crossed that LCs keep selling these things to pay cash into the settlement fund.

I am literally telling you how the law works. No one needs to go back and read anything. It is really as simple as explained.

So a leader got removed from BSA totally? Not asked to leave a Troop, not asked to step down into a non leading position, totally removed from BSA?

You're probably doing a lot for the Scout instead of letting the Scout learn through the patrol method.

I heavily disagree with the no uniform and the no rank. I would agree that reducing the uniform requirements is appropriate due to costs. Reducing down to a shirt requirement might be best, the shirt tells a story, and signals to others what can be expected of a Scout, and where they are in the journey. Rank is a key part of that story when Scouts see each others shirts. It helps Scouts discern who should get elected SPL, it helps identify people on a glance that can help them learn rank appropriate skills, it helps Scouters gauge where a Scout is on the journey and if they should be ready more responsibility. These things are also teaching the Scouts how society works. There is a pecking order, most of the time it is based on experience, knowledge, and some sort of tenure. The rank system combined with the patrol method help Scouts learn how to find mentors, and develop drive to grow much in the same way they will need to find mentors and develop drive to grow when they enter an adult profession (Where what a person wears, and the fancy things on an office wall send many signals and tell a story).

What you're talking about is an out of court agreement which prevents the bankruptcy from going into Chapter 7. Once a bankruptcy is accepted into Chapter 7 everything gets arranged into categories, then ordered in those categories for priority of repayment. To be clear, once a bankruptcy judge authorizes Chapter 7 it becomes a bankruptcy of winners and losers by order of importance and age. As an example, if BSA were forced to file Chapter 7, and if it was accepted for Chapter 7 all secured debts/claims get absolute priority over unsecured, and older debts against those secured assets get priority. Using any BSA national properties with a mortgage as an example. Those mortgage lenders get priority before everyone else immediately; unconditionally, they just go to the top of the pecking order to get restitution on that debt; those mortgage lenders could potentially consume all of the value and leave nothing for lower prioritized secured debt holders (like 2nd or 3rd mortgages) and unsecured debt.

No ... I think if there is a cause for cultural intransigence it is actually the inability of any other Scouting organization to get off the ground due to inferior programming. As much as there are issues, and as much as detractors point out all of the flaws of BSA, BSA is the best Scouting program in the country. Especially so is the relative generalness of BSA compared to it's niche competitors. My X just hates BSA and did not want our kids to join, but when we looked at all of the competing programs there really wasn't a competition. BSA is not perfect, there is room for improvement; however, BSA is lightyears ahead of every other Scouting organization in America. BSA doesn't have a monopoly against competition, there just isn't competition; it's like BSA is MLB, and everyone else is bar leagues.

There really isn't much battling though; if it would go to Chapter 7 a pecking order of age of debt would quickly set the winners vs losers; especially if there are multiple mortgages on properties.

Am I understanding this correctly? The UMC will still provide space to meet, and expect access to provide religious services, but the COR is now at the Council? Does this mean the LC's are going to have to have district, or council committees of CORs?

That makes sense, sucks that your daughter doesn't get more summer due to band starting so early.

No I was shooting for this. Specifically point 3. Finally. If I, or someone of my same opinion on the matter were to have said this there would have been no upvotes and hoards of bellyaching comments. This is great, thank you.

So why are you do something different?