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We literally just wrapped up LGBT "Q" + month. Q = Queer, and the point of everything about last month and the panels, discussions, wokeness was to recognize people who identify as that were treated in the past. There are all of these narratives around the abuse where these queer folk were supposedly ignored, covered up for, etc ... but at the same time roughly 5% of the population just held rallies and parades where part of the whole thing was to bring the other 95% of the population to task over how we brutalized and had absolutely no toleration for their existence let alone presence. There are 2 conflicting narratives going on. You're the one who has the narrative that the person who abused you "was a pervert and queer." Help me to understand how at a time when anyone overtly perverted or queer, let alone both could walk down the street without getting the shit kicked out of them was tolerated and ignored.

There is a lot to unpack here. I am going to assume that you were a scout in the 60's and 70's based on your alias; and assuming that is true I struggle with your narrative. Those of us old enough to remember how perverts and "queer" folk were treated prior to the 1990s know that toleration would have been a dream for them compared to the outright romper stomping and GTFO of town treatment they took from everyone in society.

It was not hard to find the 2021 Annual report on my LC or the neighboring LC website. A couple of take aways are that: 1) Youth membership bottomed out last year, we're now rising back up, about a 1000 more than the floor we hit last year (but no where near historic levels). 2) The neighboring LC has 100 less youth members that my LC and my LC has the highest population density of all of the LC's in the state. I am not sure what that means.

@scoutlaw74 After reading more of this I wonder if your son is being targeted because of his faith? The reality of Scouting is that there are varying levels of "reverence" and we do have some people who have a declared faith but are in reality not religious at all, and some even claim to have a faith but lash out at those who truly do. Something to consider. To the comments about the military and the Eagle Scout status. The official document says E2 these days due to a higher priority towards valuing college education; however, that is not the end all be all. When I was in the Army and on recruiting detail we enlisted Eagle Scouts at E4 (Specialist), some people didn't like it, but it was within the discretion of our recruiting command. There are a lot of ways to gain extra rank when you enlist and being an Eagle Scout normally encompasses all of them. We valued the outdoors experience (regardless of quality) because we could safely assume that the enlistee was at least mentally prepared to face the BCT experience. Going to an academy as an Eagle Scout will not matter as much (it helps you get in, but what you do while you are there matters more); ranks at the academies have more to with school year, performance, and popularity. Assuming that a person is offered a commission and accepts it post academy, then at that time being an Eagle Scout will matter again when being reviewed for promotion; those extras as a high school and college student (Eagle Scout, CAP, Sports, Volunteering) can help get a person promoted on their first look because it helps fill in the picture of the quality and character of that junior officer. Those things will be in their career jacket and will become tie breakers.

This is why Scouting must continue.

Simple answer is you cannot avoid fees, not even in the first year. Also you can register to be a unit level MBC; however, it still goes through the council registration and vetting process. If the cost is a problem perhaps you can do some sort of cost sharing with the unit? Here's a tale of two units: My unit is each Scouter pays their own way, and we are struggling to get enough volunteers. My brothers unit out of state pays for all Scouter registration, and for any unit required training and his unit has full staffing. So if your unit has cash on hand maybe it's time to propose some sort of cost sharing initiative.

Some really intense posts. The survivors are justifiably angry, but everyone needs to step back and suss out whether they are seeking justice or revenge. From the outside looking in I see a lot of desire for revenge; but it's not on the actual perpetrators, it's on everyone, indiscriminate. All the while BSA's cash burn continues to dwindle the available assets for the victims compensation fund. I think everyone basically understands that BSA will survive, a lot, or perhaps even all camps will get sold to fund the compensation fund; however, Scouting will survive. You can only squeeze a lemon so hard.

Considering the rollercoaster coming out of SCOTUS the past couple weeks is there any chance that the judge is waiting on a determination from 1 of the 4 outstanding SCOTUS opinions before handing down her judgement?

Stay strong, defend your son. Once this investigation is over, if your son is reinstated to his position(s) I recommend accepting the reinstatements and then resigning after a short period (So the reinstatements are official, documented, and witnessed.). A few reasons for the eventual resignation(s), first to dissuade other false accusations by adding a cost to BSA (remember our #1 resource is volunteers), secondly to send a message that your son was volunteering and his time and commitment was as privilege to the BSA, and it's units. I hate false accusations, they weaken true reports by clouding the field, and the false accusers are never punished in a justifiable and fair manner for the damage they caused.

Looks solid, make sure you get signed up for those training courses. I don't know about the rest of you but my local council is being a little weird about the new Citizenship in Society MB; I wish they vetted every MBC for every MB as rigorously as they did my cohort for the Citizenship in Society MB. Sign up for that LNT training as well, for me it was a $40 course to be considered a trained LNT trainer for Scouts.

When I read this my gut tells me that the UMC doesn't want to get called quitters/abandoners/etc ... and they are creating a bureaucratic mess that any sane troop committee would prefer to find a new CO over instead of dealing with it.

Interesting, I searched this up on the internet and found a possible explanation. Apparently BS Canada uses that color for their Venture Rank. I also saw some unofficial mention of lower ranking cubs having worn matching colors of their neckerchief at one time (Did the cub blue uniforms have Epaulet tabs at one time?). I did see mention of Gold Epaulets in this link http://www.scoutinsignia.com/loops.htm concerning national youth representatives and AO.

Lumping is when a retirement plan has "Lump Sum" clauses that allow a member to take a lump sum payment or allow an employer to force someone out of a retirement plan with a lump sum payment. Normally plan advisors do not like either lump sum option as most retirement plans are tied to accruing value using available principal; bulk divestiture causes revisions in performance projections etc ...

To the OP, enforcement of the Clean Water Act is relegated to state and local agencies; the EPA itself rarely gets down on the ground testing etc ... OPs state agency should have been monitoring and managing in conjunction with a local water district or municipal entity while enforcing the Clean Water Act on behalf of the EPA and enforcing any additional state and local regulations. My advice concerning your camp issue is to reach out to your states natural resources agency. If you think there is a violation it would be documented and public knowledge, if it is chronic and related to a water body there would be a TMDL recommendation and a remediation plan (I suspect these exist as OP stated fines have been levied). In response to Malrux statement of grandfathered status; exemptions and grandfathered rights related to the Clean Water Act ended in 1989. The Clean Water Act had a multi-stage implementation where some entities were grandfathered into practices and policy to give them time to retrofit or build facilities within compliance, but all of those grandfather rights were expired when the final stage of implementation of the act went into affect in 1989 (which almost all of the last exemptions were related to municipal water and waste).

If it gets instituted at the cub level it will migrate up to the troop level. Look back a couple years where girls were in packs but not yet allowed in troops, and then the first class of AOLs were eligible to crossover and BSA opened the door to linked troops. It's coming, co-ed is on the way. The 1940's crowd can't fight the future forever.

Article doesn't apply to BSA. BSA requires that every camp have a Program Director and a Camp Director and both have to be NCAP certified. BSA requires that every every camp have a designated first aid provider who is current in CPR, AED, and First Aid. BSA requires all stations have at least 1 registered adult leader; with that there are the YPT and background check requirements.

Call your local American Legion and VFW post. It's in their mission to support Scouting.

If you're in a UMC chartered unit I suggest you start speaking with the nearest American Legion or VFW post that has a clubhouse. Both have it in their charter statements to support youth education and Scouting in particular. Veterans organizations as a whole just don't have the volunteers to get in your business, but they typically want to help and appear useful to the community. As a CO veterans organizations do not care about BSA unit resources, if on the off chance that one does the problem can quickly go away by asking all of your veteran relatives and friends to join the post and vote the problem away (most veterans organizations practice simple majority democracy and follow Roberts Rules of Order which makes controlling problem people very easy). One of the local Troops made the transition late last year from my neighborhood UMC (The church wanted to continue to support but had shrank in size to such an extreme that they sold their facility and bought a smaller space that could not support a BSA troop) to the nearest AL post and it has actually worked out better for the Troop in every regard except finding a parking space for the Troop trailer. On a side note, what is stopping units from forming their own non-profit and sponsoring themselves? A unit 1 town over did that (formed a non-profit called "friends of pack NNN") and then sponsored itself.

Then there might be something there. I guess it depends on what your state lets the LC's do. Using the BSA Warehouse Sale as an example; BSA sold it, used some of the proceeds to lease it back, then used some of the proceeds for the settlement fund, then put the rest into paying operating expenses.

Are those outright owned assets or assets leverages with mortgages and inversions? There are 2 sides to every balance sheet.

I don't know about you, but the LC's in my state are basically broke, and just about everything they own is leveraged already.

I am not doxing myself for your lack of understanding of the process. Everyone who hopes to get a payday out of this settlement had better pray tonight that BSA doesn't go into Chapter 7.

"Everything is sold" is absolutely not correct. Lien holders, aka mortgage lenders can just say they want their property. If a property has multiple liens whether they are tax liens, mortgages, etc ... the oldest gets priority. Subsequent lien holders can ask that the liens stay on the property which can create a "toxic asset". I know this for a fact as I use to work for the #1 toxic asset holding company in the country post 2008 housing crash. Nothing just gets liquidated, that is not how the process works at all. The right of first lien holder trumps everyone and everything. Those toxic assets are actually a very profitable enterprise as they are used to avoid paying income tax. So anyone who thinks there is a big payday over all of these mortgaged properties and physical assets that BSA and LC's own, you better keep your fingers crossed that LCs keep selling these things to pay cash into the settlement fund.

I am literally telling you how the law works. No one needs to go back and read anything. It is really as simple as explained.

So a leader got removed from BSA totally? Not asked to leave a Troop, not asked to step down into a non leading position, totally removed from BSA?