InquisitiveScouter

Next year, have your wife's company make the donation to your CO. Coordinate with your CO ahead of time to ask about this and ask for the funds to be passed on to the Troop. This is perfectly fine, but your council will be livid.

Hey, man, just drink the kool-aid and pay the fees. Gotta FOS!! (Fund Our Salaries)

And here you are, making an assumption about "people who only have experience with others like themselves..." That is exactly the kind of gross generalization and stereotyping that we are opposed to. Physician, heal thyself. Deal with people individually. It is the only way... I don't hear this... because no one treats everyone the same. We all act differently around different people. I do not treat everyone the same. But I do strive to treat everyone fairly. There is a huge difference. I do not treat a 17 year old like I treat an 11 year old. I do not speak to women

@DuctTape for National Commissioner! (It's been a while, so it needed saying again 😛 )

Just remember, Barry... You are unique! (Just like everyone else ) There is a deep danger in focusing on "identities." The result is a descent into tribalism. (We could improve the merit badge by removing this term and "equity" from the line-up.) https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/social-empathy/201903/when-tribalism-goes-bad Instead, we should craft questions in the discussion with Scouts along these lines: - Research an event or situation in US history where a person or group of people were discriminated against due to a trait which was innate. (skin color, heigh

No notice. So, the councils had no input to the decision-making. Sound familiar?

Atheists?

Unsatisfactory. Several observations: 1. In reviewing the 2019 posts and your responses, you never answer the question at hand. You simply post a definition of "overnight" which in no way enlightens the questioning audience. (And you have repeated that here.) 2. You post a link to an instructor syllabus which is now defunct, therefore invalid to answer the question. 3. There are 72 instances of the word "overnight" in the currently available BALOO manual (2017 printing, see link). I reviewed each of them, and there is no clarification that a single night experience is

It was only a matter of time before the pot was stirred again 😛 BTW, slide 34: 15. How will you make sure that the merit badge is achieving its objectives? Like all BSA programs, we will continuously evaluate and improve the Citizenship in Society merit badge based on feedback shared by those within the Scouting program. Anybody been asked for any feedback? Anyone see an avenue mentioned in the slide show to provide feedback? https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/diversity_equity_and_inclusion/Citizenship-in-Society-Merit-Badge-Counselor-Guide-2021.pdf P.S. They d

Please pass some messages to the G2SS writing team: 1. Hire a good communicator. 2. Don't write so that you can be understood; write so that you can't be misunderstood. (Taft) see @scoutldr post above, for example. 3. Send your draft policies to someone outside the National organization, preferably to someone that your policies will affect (and who has to comply with them). Let them read them and then (in a verbal conversation) have them tell you what they read in their own words with some concrete examples of impact to their unit operations. If they cannot explain it bac

Ludicrous

I am working through this with a small group of Scouts now (9th graders). When we are done, I am going to ask them what their opinion is on the badge, and whether this was value-added for them. I'll let you know... I will say, in our first session, they were very guarded in their views, but when they began to share their ideas and research on the definitions, and each relayed what they had heard from friends, parents, teachers, and media, and how they thought much of this was unneeded in a merit badge. They came to some great consensus on what things "should mean" (their words, and I

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And payments into the victim compensation fund.

I recommend you hold on to your money, and give it in increments. Give an increment (say $25) to the council every time you have a positive interaction with a paid professional. Every time you have a positive interaction with a volunteer from another unit, give it to that unit. I'd love to see you post here about these incremental gifts. Let's see where Scouting is really happening.

How long do you think it takes a council to get a background check done? Parent wants to camp and unit turns in their application on Friday... goes camping that night. Background check won't be done for a loooonnnngggg time. Not buying that that is the drive behind this.

No, but they should be!

So, are you implying that MBCs are not background checked?

You hit the nail right on the head, partner 😜 Gotta pay those salaries. In 2019, Surbaugh made $1.1M (2019 is last public form I could find) https://apps.irs.gov/pub/epostcard/cor/221576300_201912_990_2021030217778557.pdf $134M in assets sales in 2019 also... https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/221576300 compare that to the 2018 numbers...

No. Mr. Dad just has to sever the "connection" for the overnight... You could take that ad absurdum. All adults staying overnight in connection with a Scouting activity must be currently registered in an adult fee required position as listed or as an adult program participant. So, at bed time, he just says "Goodnight folks! I'm going to sleep on my own in a campsite I rented for myself. See you at breakfast!"

LOL, they should DRIVE over a bridge

Thanks! I have read through the G2SS many times, and never really registered that. Appreciate you citing it. We have not been using that checklist, but now we will. Wonder when that became part of G2SS?

No. But they can clearly articulate coherent policies. Not come up with more incoherent ones... For example, there should be nothing wrong with having MBCs be the second adult. They have to be registered, have YPT, and background checks. Simply put in the additional instruction: "MBCs may fulfill only one position of supervision at a unit event, with the permission of the CO." Unless, councils aren't really doing the background checks? ($$$)

@PACAN, the loophole @mrjohns2 is referring to is this (I think, because this is what we did...): Not too long ago, the G2SS required only one registered adult over 21, and a second "registered adult" form the supervision team for an overnight outing (it wasn't "all events" like it is now.) The rules did not stipulate this had to be a "unit registered adult" (it still does not stipulate that, but that is the intent). So, to save money, units would register the minimum number of adults required to have a unit on the charter, and then have everyone else register as MBCs (for free) so that

We used this scheme before it became "illegal." Also, in our state (PA), state law requires all adult volunteers to have three background checks: 1) A State Police Criminal Record check, 2) A "PA Child Abuse History Certification" from the Dept of Human Services, and 3) EITHER a signed Affidavit attesting no other charges OR an FBI Fingerprint background check if you have not been a state resident of 10 years. When I posed the question about having adults just register as MBCs (because MBCs also have to these checks), versus as paid adult registrations, I got a rather nasty respons