mrjohns2

What are they being told is “in scope”, but is not?

I’d say the troop doesn’t become incorporated, but the adults in troops can form corporations for the benefit of the troop (either parallel to the CharteredOrg or to become the CharteredOrg).

Well, that isn't really true. UC's are not committee members of the unit they are commissioners for. They are "external" to the unit. He should no longer think of himself as a committee member (by choice or by default). UC's are more than welcome to ATTEND committee meetings for the units I am involved in. is quite odd for a UC to be an ASM in the troop that are UC for. He should find a unit with a different UC and swap units. One really wants the UC to be an external resources for that "outsiders" view of where to improve and to be someone to bounce ideas off of. So to review: -Member of committee as UC? No. -UC for a Unit the UC is an ASM? No. -Stay as ASM? Sure, just find a new unit to UC for

I believe what @RemberSchiff was talking about was closure of the case (follow-up still needed. engage local resources, engage local law enforcement, or whatever).

@skepticI don’t consider myself much of a grouch, but I agree with your sentiment. I was very active in OA during my youth 1990-1995 time frame. I attended 2 NOACs. I felt like training was / could be a big focus. I went in 2022 with my daughter and staffed training. The horrible communication and organization drove me nuts. I felt like training was a side thought. The rest was looking for a reason to have a big arena show as a rally. My daughter took nothing back and really isn’t interested in going to another NOAC. Take a look at the new mission / vision for the OA. Camping has been removed and it seems to imply they want to open NLS and NOAC to non- members. 😞

Well, $625 is the national fee to attend. 6000 into $2.8M is $483. So, could be pretty close, no? I know there is a lot more to the cost of putting on NOAC than housing and food, but maybe $400 goes to housing and food?

This seems like an untapped idea. We can all think of orgs who could share camps: Y, school outdoor ed, Campfire, churches, even the Girl Scouts. It is crazy that all of these orgs struggle to have, maintain, and use their camps. If we shared it could just work. I don’t know.

I’m not following your point. In your council activities are not done due to fear of legal repercussions? Probably the biggest legal hardship for our camps is the requirement of a sprinkler system for buildings housing more than 4 unrelated people (or something like that). Due to that new cabins will be tough in the future.

Seems very low key vs the photo shoots of the past few years.

I do see a pretty high overlap in our council between commissioners and the district committee. Not in the work, but the people.

Oh, here it is in G2SS.

I knew I had read it before. 2021 National Aquatics Newsletter. It says in all BSA activities. Is it not in the G2SS? I didn’t look. Here is where it says they are banned: https://www.scouting.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Aquatics-Subcommittee-eNewsletter-20210601.pdf

Wait. What? Election? It seems like they did an update with having expiration dates and a) didn’t update any documentation b) roll it out and c) it is full of confusing interface and bugs. Your council office can enter a ticket for the error you are seeing. You can’t. 😞

Beyond moving the current CC to USR and the new CC into the CC slot. Yes, they will sit as Unit Scouter reserve until recharter or their membership expires if they aren’t going to re-up in general.

Does this mean higher payouts? Or that the payouts planned will be fully funded?

I’d like Jocko Willink. He would be awesome. Or maybe that is just me. Mr Beast? 🙂

I'm not following. After you change them in my.scouting, it is best then to go and end them in Scoutbook.

They could. The volunteer corp, for the most part, just gives each other awards vs. really doing the heavy lifting many would be willing to do.

This is the way. Then go to Scoutbook and end their positions there.

They were PDFs before, but choose to charge for them on Amazon. Like @InquisitiveScouter pointed out, plenty of BSA info is a pdf or on a Website. They aren’t motivated or capable of keeping them updated.

agreed

Agreed. That concept should no longer be done. I’m not in support of coed troops, but I am also not in support of girl only camporees or summer camp weeks.

I’ve enjoyed Scout On Chattanooga. https://www.cherokeeareabsa.com/podcast . A lot is hyper local, but I like their chemistry enough to listen. I was irritated with Scouter Stan when he specifically gave out incorrect uniform advice. If I recall it might have been a recruiter strip for adults and maybe a district patch.

Yes? That do that with the counselor. That counselor may end up not being an adult. It is up to the council advancment committe (see other parts of the guide to advancement) to manage the quality of the summer camp mb program. I can assure you that about 90% of MBs am nation wide are taught by counselors under 18. Have you been to camp? Have you assured yourself and your scouts of quality instruction? I have. If you have, you’d know that the requirements are done with an MBC that is more likely than not under 18. You must be new to the program to have this all jumbled up.

Actually, that isn't true. If so, all counselors would need to be 18. They oversee quality control to make sure those that are teaching the MB are holding to the standards, but the adult is not expected to test each scout on each requirement. Just not part of the program or expectations.