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The presentation said that ONLY the AOL is intended to be prep for Scouts (6 months for AOL) vs. previously all of Webelos (18 months Webelos and AOL) being prep.

Pretty poor for us. Our troop is down from 20 to 13. Our Pack peaked at ~73 last year and will peak only at 63 this year. The higher fees PLUS needing to pay for 1 year really put a damper on recruiting for us. A school that netted about 20+ in one night, yielded 0 in the one night. We had maybe 5 over about a week as people thought it over.

Alps tents through hikerdirect. Many many troops in our use the Taurus Outfitter models. Our troop uses 4 person ones. Full tarp to the ground, vestibules on both sides, not a ton of mesh (hotter in the summer, but true 4 season), ticker floor, tougher zippers, and very inexpensive. They have held up for 5 years for us and are like new camping each month. The boy troop have used them for 10+ and they are holding up well. Much better headspace than the A frame Timberlines we used as a kid. No "magic flute" to lose either. For adults, we use the 5 person. On the big side, but totally can stand up. The boy troop backpacks with the 4 person ones. They are heavy, but they already have them. I wasn't sure when I was first told about hiker direct, I was like "yeah, other websites have discounted tents". Hiker direct really is a charity type of move for Scouts.

True, but an adult would address the issue instead of banning everyone.

That is how we did it. Also, our dues mainly go to things like adult fees, so those don’t scale by the month.

Opps! Thanks for the correct.

We will have to see the requirements. Maybe, maybe, maybe they have 8, but the AOL ones are shorter?

No, you didn’t. In ‘86 it was the Scout badge. In ‘95 it became the Scout Rank. One was a joining badge and the other involves a lot more and is a rank. So, yes the badge was eliminated and replaced with a rank. In this case a joining badge of bobcat becomes an adventure. Times change.

This is a great idea.

We didn’t / we don’t. It became the Scout rank in 2015. Things change.

They might not have much info either.

It isn't eliminated. It is making it age appropriate.

There was a spreadsheet a few years back that showed sizes and the ranges (ABCD?).

That rumor wasn’t in the staff circles I love in. I’m with the older crowd that would like have money. It was “only $1M” if I recall, so not too surprising that someone could have at least come up with a mortgage. The council never much invested in the camp compared to my current council. Very different approach.

I’m not following your point. It was my old camp, so I’m decently familiar with what happened.

Not as much as all staff have to register as “camp staff employee” or something. This stops the “camp staff unit” concept from being necessary. Our council’s camp staff crew added away pretty quickly.

This is a troop, not a pack. More should be expected from the Scouts to not require a hall monitor.

Condition is everything, as they say. Also, while all S outs things are collectible, I assume the individual kits are more collectible. Additionally, patches are core with everything off of that a bit less universally collectible.

It is in our area. But maybe we have more hams?

In addition to the $25 that national is charging?

NOAC staff on discord. I don’t have any of the numbers.

Fewer than 20 lodges (less than 10% of all lodges) participated in AIA events during the 2022 NOAC. Not a passion shared by more than 90% of all lodges.

I'd say a group of the committee members can call a meeting. You can discuss a path forward. Who can appoint a new committee chair? Basically only the COR. Is your committee chair also the COR?

They have?

I am a number one fan of Scoutbook. The issue is, that Scoutbook does not support Lone Scouts. Don't ask about it in the forums, that is the answer you will get. Why not? I don't know. It seems like it would be simple. Make the adult guide "everything" and a troop of 1. I don't know.