mrjohns2

I am trying to help, but I see an empty stool where Tiny Tim once sat. The election policies removes the striving that scouts used to feel. Now, it seems like a foregone conclusion.

It will help if you remember where you met, that is, the particular school or church or whatever.

Are outdoor skills in the vision, mission, oath, or law of Scouts?

This is one of the few policies our units have, so that families know up front, and the committees can just follow the policy. For us, the Scout account moves to the new unit if the new unit has scout accounts. If not, they are kept with the unit for camperships. There is no national or council policy since scout accounts are a grey area.

I haven't seen the numbers in a year or 2, but this isn't what I recall. Have you seen recent number, or better yet, monthly numbers for the last 5 years?

Amen. When I was on staff, $50 to each area of camp would make things amazing! With my daughter on staff this summer, I can't wait hear what tiny things are needed and making dreams happen! I just never never understand this. Bleeding the camp of funds. Every dollar that camp generates should go to pay for camp - rangers, etc.

Amen. It would be sad, but I think I wouldn't want my kids in a poorly run troop even if it was the only one in town.

I have to agree. As an engineer, if you want to fix the problem, you are going to have to change something. Ideally, something directionally correct. Unit we start to change whatever needs changing, nothing is going to change. If this country was my plant, the plant manager wouldn't stand for this "wow, let's be sad about this sad thing" as any means to a solution. Now getting people to agree on a solution? Well, since no one knows what the solution is, that is the work. I have some ideas, but for sure at least 50% of the people would think they suck.

For future reference, is this documented somewhere?

EIN’s are easy to get. Get one and open a checking account. It will NOT entitle the unit to non-profit privileges, but allow you to operate.

This was true for my older daughter and now my middle daughter. She is just at one year and is just about a month from 2nd class. She isn’t motivated beyond working on it during meetings and campouts. Which is fine. I am pretty sure 1st class itself will take the next year for her. She likes Scouts, but as she would say “it isn’t her life”.

How do? How do you recall it? That is also from 2017. They did a major’ish revamp in 2020 and hacked another day off. 1 two day and 1 three day weekends now.

Lots of assumptions on how the BSA will end up doing it. I have been in other orgs who didn’t do it how you describe.

We give 0% to FOS of our “outside” fundraisers. We do meet our FOS stretch goal and our popcorn goals and go to council camps and camporees. So, we play along and seem to get along well.

As an engineer who works in industrial production, this is exactly how we view safety. Our plant alone spends millions a year on safety, but it will never stop. Never. We report, we investigate root causes, we fix, engineer, implement, and repeat. Forever.

Totally. The drew the line when people said don’t by the $24 cub handbooks, you don’t need them until Webelos. The next day, the forums were closed.

I don’t understand why they turned them off now. They were not involved.

Well, it used to be you could only vote for 50% of those eligible. So, this is a huge change from where we have been.

I'm confused. Your troop was nominating Scouts to then be elected? Or are you calling the election a nomination process? There really is no nomination other that the SM approving of they being eligible and then a vote.

Yes. Just like at a camporee at a state park.

We are starting to look for small trailers. 1 axel, 8 or 10 feet. Really just to free up seatbelts. The goal is to have it towable by a midsized SUV.

That stinks. Well, why not have this same conversation with the CC? Adult volunteer staffing is the CC’s role. If I had a SM say this, I’d hope I would say something about not hearing it discussed with the CC yet. Don’t assume it is final. Talk it over with the CC and committee.

Yes, but like the family that takes out a home equity loan to pay credit card bills, we need to tap that equity. This isn’t about what is good for business.

Others may be able to help, you just have to mention it. I was at a week of summer camp when chatting with a random Scouter. I was wearing an old 1993 National Jamboree TShirt. My dad had passed away not too long before and I inherited 3 identical shirts that fit the adult me. I brought them to camp and wouldn't fear them getting wrecked while doing service projects. This Scouter said that he had lost his in a house fire 10 years prior and was very sad about it. It was awesome to head back to camp, grab a shirt, head back and help this Scouter replenish one item for him!

I worked a nomination for a firefighter. I reached out before submitting so they knew it was coming and what it was all about. Not all labor councils are familiar with it.