mrjohns2

I think it comes down to the "AFL-CIO City or State Central Labor Council". Since they sign off, they are the ones that have to be "ok with it". I know that many teacher unions, for example, are not AFL-CIO. Sometimes, though, they have an understanding with AFL-CIO and thus the AFL-CIO may have no issue signing off.

It remains to be seen if the GSUSA will continue us to have sour grapes over the whole thing.

The non-white and non-male populations to start with. I would think that hundreds of wood badgers each year might make a small difference. Small improvements, each year, add up to a lot.

Great philosophy. The issue is that the BSA has been irrelevant to certain populations in the country the wood badge ticket item is there to help change that.

I guess maybe not cultish, but elitist. Everyone has a role. I’d rather hear what roles people have or the number of times they staffed. I think the distinction between junior and senior staff is not important.

Great discussion on Reddit about Wood Badge and any cult-y vibe. A person responds that there wasn’t any critter cult when “I was on senior staff”. Oh, no critter cult, but a junior vs senior staff cult. Meh.

I have had this happen. It stinks. I haven’t tried to remove it, just cover it up with the next patch.

It is my understanding they took a mortgage out on Philmont. So the value is in the mortgage vs the property. Not really protected, but one can only take the cash vs the land.

We do a winter cabin campout with our boy troop and girl troop. It is a ton of fun.

This thread is designed for that. Are you asking for a distilled list?

I like your reflection. Are you saying maybe the changes and the depth are not for the new members, but for the ones that have heard it all again and again? I like that idea.

I think this might be a middle path. Sort of like the National Outdoor Award thing.

🎶 I used to be a CFL staffer, as you can plainly see, but if I weren’t a staffer, I’d grow up and have a family. 🎵 Bear Paw Scout camp hired CFL’s commissary director for this summer. It has had maybe 20% patrol cooking these last 3 years. It is ramping it up this summer after CFL shutting down.

Well, you’d only have 5 years of liability. Troops of 100 years may have more risk.

Do you have a source for this? Or is it just based on the fact that they could end up not accepting the application?

I'll eat my words. From the "Rules and Regulations, 2020 edition, page 12"l... Young people of all religious backgrounds are welcome in Scouting, with some participating in units for youths of a particular religion and the greater majority participating in units open to members of various religious backgrounds.

This MB has clear direction to not do in larger groups or at camp.

Uh, twisting. So, the rules say you can't kick the scout out, but you don't have to allow them in the first place? Ok. Sure. Whatever.

You are twisting it. It says that you cannot make them be a member of the faith of the CO. If you want to twist it to the opposite, that is up to you, but the wording of the bylaws clearly says that it cannot require that. Why else would they have that wording? For those that fall away from the church? Well, if they do, they cannot be forced to stay in.

Not for the Scouts. For the adults, yes. From the by-laws... Freedom Clause 3. In no case where a unit is connected with a church or other distinctively religious organization shall members of other denominations or faiths be required, because of their membership in the unit, to take part in or observe a religious ceremony distinctly unique to that organization or church. However, no church or religious organization holding a valid charter shall be required to accept as an adult leader any person whose espoused personal beliefs are in conflict with the chartered organization’s relig

Do they still make hard copies?

Posted today on Scouringwire... March 8, 2022 Originally planned for May 23-27, 2022, the BSA National Annual Meeting has been postponed to a later date (to be announced) in 2022. The BSA National Executive Board recently approved the postponement of the National Annual Meeting to accommodate for date changes in the ongoing bankruptcy process. Rescheduling the National Annual Meeting to occur after the BSA emerges from bankruptcy will help to allow sufficient time to prepare to transact all required business. The meeting will be scheduled within 120 days following

This discussion made me think of a Scouting "political cartoon" that I saw before, but can't find. It was a "two cell" cartoon with "What they were told Scouting would be" and then the other "What Scouting is". It showed adventure in the outdoors on one side and a meeting in a Church basement on the other. I seem to recall this might have been British. I would love to have a copy if someone knows it and can post a link.

Key 3’s can pull this from my.scouting for those in their unit.

Due to the GSUSA lawsuit, we have been directed to never put girl in front of scout like that. I assume you are talking about a Scouts BSA girl troop and not a Girl Scout Troop? Anyway, I feel like you were let down by your ticket coach! Was that your only uncompleted ticket? With Covid, we were told you could get your item changed to something that could be done. That stinks they didn’t work that with you!