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  1. No need to reinvent the wheel, here. Quoting Scouting for Boys, by Baden-Powell (page 41) And what is this secret sign and half salute? From page 40
  2. The New England Orienteering Club is doing something like this. "Stay tuned . . . as we work with land managers and club volunteers to implement a number of bring-your-own-map events. Participants will be able to navigate around a course on their own time to minimize interactions." https://newenglandorienteering.org/news/1082-orienteering-during-the-covid-19-outbreak
  3. Thanks for your description of how the online class format worked. My council is also pushing online merit badge classes, and I am a little skeptical. On the other hand, my daughter started a new merit badge. Spent an hour conversing one-on-one by phone with the merit badge counselor who is an older adult who lives in our neighborhood. It looks like it is going to be a really good experience. (Because of YPT she put the phone of speaker phone, so I could listen in.) Of course there are a couple of steps that she won't be able to finish until the quarantine is over, but a grea
  4. Looking on the bright side of things, I am trying to encourage my scouts to take initiative on merit badge work, and find things they are interested in doing rather independently while at home. Maybe we can get away from a "merit badge class" mindset - which is unfortunately the mindset of the boys' troop to which we are linked. Even if a scout cannot complete all the steps of a particular merit badge class, there are a lot of steps of a lot of badges that can be done quite well at home, and there is a lot of "discuss" interaction with a merit badge counselor that can be done by telepho
  5. That sounds like our joint committee meetings for our linked troops (some committee members are on just one committee, some are on the other committee, and some are on both). There has been good and bad: good the girl's troop committee members can learn from the boys troop, and the boys troop commiteee members can hear what the girls troop is doing. Bad: the committee meetings are taking way way too long, and I feel like some of the girls troop issues are getting squeezed out. Fortuntaley for us the girls troop PLC and the boys troop PLC meet separately, and can plan their own t
  6. My understanding is that the big concern is that boy troop and the girl troop are each to have its own leadership structure. Because girls and boys don't mature in the same ways at the same rate. With one girl patrol, the girl troop (which was a single patrol) did not need an SPL. With three boy patrols, the boy troop needed an SPL. But now you have it backwards. That is precisely the problem. The boys are missing out on an opportunity here.
  7. Sometimes the additional structure can be helpful to those who are inexperienced. That is why I prefer the ScoutsBSA program to a hypothetical "Junior Venturing" program.
  8. I am more familiar with Scouts than Venturing, but I think these are some differences: Scouts BSA: single gender troops. Venturing: Coed Scouts BSA: wears uniforms. Venturing: uniform is optional Scouts BSA: patrol method including patrol names, flags, yells Venturing: doesn't have this Scouts BSA: very structure rank advancment program Venturing: advancment seems not to be a big deal If you have a scout who (a) wants to be in a fully coed group (b) despises the unifrom (c) cannot stand rah rah of patrol spirit it
  9. The tenderfoot was consulted as to whether she wanted a corrected card or not.
  10. Thank you very much. Your replies have been helpful. My troop botched the card for one of our Tenderfeet, and it was not noticed until very shortly before time to hand the scout the card and patch. I think I will ask the scout whether she wants a correct card to save, or whether she does not care.
  11. My question concerned the small cards stating their new rank, that the scouts are given, along with their new rank patch, at the COH. Are these important to save long term? (like blue cards) Or does the scout not need to be concerned about saving the card, since the sign-offs in his book are his documentation that he completed his rank? Really, what I am asking is: is there any problem if a scout does not have or keep these cards?
  12. I got a very different impression of the overall emphasis of their talking points. Mainly that they want to emphasize that GSUSA is not part of BSA. Note the repetition of words like "separate" "independent" "never been affiliated" "distinct". The first five points really try to hammer this home. In contrast the word "safe" is mentioned only once, and only near the end where you see it only after you have read to the end. A great deal of the general public seems to think that the two organizations are acutally somehow the same.
  13. Hi @Cburkhardt Here are the relevant rules from my GSUSA council, emphasis mine. In my connection with GSUSA I have never seen adults bringing alcohol to, or drinking on outings. I don't know where you dredged up those comments, but in my experience that is not normal.
  14. As for GSUSA - they have the problem that much of the general public thinks that Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts are the same organization. You can take a group of Scouts BSA girls, all wearing the older shirts that clearly say "Boy Scouts of America" and people assume that they are Girl Scouts. (This has happened to my Scouts BSA troop more than once.) I've had to explaine to numerous friends that BSA and GSUSA are completely separate organizations. It is unsurprising that GSUSA wants people to know that they are not part of the organization that is going bankrupt.
  15. Where is the wood (the logs) coming from? Is it available on the property from fallen trees? Otherwise, what about all the "don't move firewood" admonitions, to slow the spread of invasive bugs. Informational signage seens more useful that a really fancy enclosure -- though I doubt the insects and chipmunks will care about either. And what is the purpose of the fancy enclosure anyway? So that people will understand that it is a deliberate wood pile, and not simply leftover logs that someone forgot to carry away? To keep kids from climing on it?
  16. That's because if families care, they will know that information without asking you. I thought the WOSM connection was a benefit when comparing BSA to BPSA. I also thought that a local council and local camps and name recogniztion were a big benefit when comparing BSA to BPSA.
  17. For the 3rd-4th (or 2nd-5th) grade girls, I would recommend the various girl guide stories by Catherine Christian. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Christian Really emphasize patrols. Probably only available from used book dealers.
  18. We've heard from the naysayers. I could certainlly see that a well-established unit, with lots of its own experience, might not be looking for an outside perspective. Now for the rest of you. If you have found a unit commissioner valuable to your unit: what help were you hoping for? and what help did they give you? and just how experienced was your unit anyway?
  19. GSUSA tried this. Starting circa 1970. In my opinion it was a disaster. GSUSA no longer has uniforms, merely a badge-sash or a badge vest. Girlguiding in the UK is doing this now. Take a look at their "uniforms".
  20. I had a fourteen-year-old who joined BSA with extensive backpacking experience who absolutely detested and despised the name "Tenderfoot". Go back to Baden-Powell's original definition, "A Tenderfoot is a boy who is not yet a scout" from Scouting for Boys page 36. Call the kid a "Tenderfoot" as soon as he or she turns in his/her registration form. Leave the rank requirements (and insignia) for "Scout" and the current "Tenderfoot" the same as they are not, but call them "Fourth Class Scout" and "Third Class Scout". It really seems backwards for "Tenderfoot" to be a lower rank t
  21. I contacted a district commissioner about the possibility of a unit commisser for our troop -- and the answer was, basically, that they are lacking in volunteers. I'm thinking about talking with other local troops about whether they have any "retired" scouters would be happy to give some advice, based on their experience, to a new troop still figuring out how to get itself organized. If I find such a person, is it better to keep it as unofficial mentoring, or to suggest that this person consider signing on as a unit commissioner? (I understand that "new-unit commissioners" only need work
  22. I lived in Europe for a while as a kid. When we (GSUSA scouts) wore our completely unofficiial, home-made, neckerchiefs with our ordinary clothing, we were immediately recognized as being some variety of Scout or Guide. (There were mulitple scouting/guiding organizations within what, to an American, is a fairly small geographical region.) When we wore our GSUSA uniforms we not nearly recognizable as scouts/guides. I much prefer the neckerchief to the "class b" shirt for being identifiable as scouts when out of uniform. It is readily recognizable from the distance. With a group
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