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Everything posted by Treflienne

  1. I just redid YPT, and noticed a detail I had missed before: On YPT final quiz questions there are explanations about the correct answers. The explanation to Q8 said (emphasis mine) "When sleeping in the same tent, youth must not be more than two years apart in age unless they are relatives." I'd been thinking that I'd rather see a new fifth grade scout share a tent with her eight grade sister, rather than needing to be in a tent by herself, and now I see that that is allowed.
  2. Do I understand correctly that your CO is considering not rechartering your troop? https://www.scouter.com/topic/31928-chapter-11-announced/page/45/?tab=comments#comment-517955 If that happens, will your troop look for a different CO, or will they disband? If your troop looks for (and finds) a new CO, is your old CO happy for you to take your camping gear with you to the new CO? (I've heard of troops around here switching CO's.)
  3. I'm seeing a similar dynamic in our troop at present. Any good advice?
  4. @BAJ, maybe you already saw the post, but @5thGenTexan posted what his council is doing for managing covid risk while camping:
  5. A rule of thumb for girls: (I used this for Girl Scout badge sashes/vests). The mom can estimate the daughter's eventual size based on the mom's size. Girls will typically reach full height about the same age the mom did, by about age 13 or 14, but will continue to fill out a little width-size. So, as a mother, if you wear the same size you did as a college student, try on the sash, and pick the size that fits you for your daughter. If you are a little larger than when you were a college student, then consider sizing down for your daughter. If you are really petite and your husband
  6. Some things we have done since our state and council permitted the troops to start camping again: 1) Prior resuming in-person activities the troop had a mandatory scout-and-parent-must-participate zoom presentation about the covid precautions being implemented. Not once per trip, but once per scout. I think it was helpful. At least the scouts are doing a much better job of social-distancing at scout events that the church-youth-group kids are doing at church events. 2) No carpooling to or from camping trips. Parents must drive their own kids to the camp location. 3) Every s
  7. My take: Yes it is worthwhile, even if you don't fully complete your ticket. The "like minded Scouters" and "enthusiam for Scouting" part was very worthwhile to me. I found it very encouraging to be among other people who were enthusiastic about the program. And who were aiming at the goals of scouting "Citizenship, Character, . . ." with confidence in the methods of scoutings ("Patrol Method, Ideals, etc, etc") as a means to get there. This was especially true for me, since it seemed that in my own unit (and in the boys' troop linked with my unit) the adults have been
  8. GSUSA has shown no interest in co-ed. At least they have been stressing the benefits of a girl-only environment.
  9. They sold they closest in-council camp to where I live. And I don't think that was the only camp sold nationally.
  10. GSUSA has used a lot of different greens. Really bright greens since around 1980. Prior to that forest green (1960's, 1970's) and a lighter grey green (back to at least the 1940's). (This is by memory, I'm not checking dates.) Earlier on they had a very brownish/tannish/olivish color. (See https://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-1930s-Complete-Girl-Scout-Uniform-Dress-Hankie-Belt-Knife-Badges-Book/184410370576?hash=item2aefb6f210:g:YlwAAOSwAhtfPaAU) But I've never seen any girl scout uniforms that match the current BSA olive green. And now GSUSA is making pants in a color that look very B
  11. All of our girls were either friends of girls already in the group, or else were "connected to scouts" in some way. That "some way" might be that a relative in a different state was in scouting. Or perhaps a mother had been a Girl Guide in a different country, or been in GSUSA. Or perhaps the father had been a Boy Scout in a different country. Or the grandfather had been a scout. That is, many of these families already had a positive impression of the scout movement. Don't assume that families need a current connection to BSA, or even that the father needs to have been in BSA, for th
  12. I should have been clearer. The initial drivers of the process were two girls (from different families) who wanted to be scouts. These two girls then recruited their parents. Then these two families (the "we") looked for more interested girls/families. We had a group of almost ten girls/families before we had a C.O. picked out.
  13. To get our troop for girls started, first we looked for the kids. If there weren't enough interested girls, then there would really not have been much point in pressing on. Actually, first, my family talked to the several Boy Scout troops in our town, inquiring about whether a girls troop was forming up - and there was not at that point. Another family talked to a Boy Scout troop in a neighboring town. The Boy Scout troops put the two famiilies in contact, and both families started recruiting girls. The want-to-be-scouts talked to their friends. The parents talked to their frie
  14. Note to moderators: this is in the wrong category. Scouts BSA for girls is not "Girl Scouting"
  15. A few statistics from our female troop: 56% of the scouts came because a friend or a sister was already in the troop (or proto-troop) and the scout invited them (or the scout's parents invited the prospective scout's parents) 11% came because a brother or cousin in a boy's troop was enthusiastic about scouting. 18% found us through the web (beascout or the troop's own website) The remaining scouts were part of the initial organizing group that started talking up the idea of a girls troop in town. It wasn't specific recruting materials that brought in each new scout. I
  16. Thanks @SteveMM I appreciate hearing your experience with a leadership project related to a POR. And @Eagledad, thank you for overview of the development of leadership skills through using the patrol heirarchy. And thanks @DuctTapefor your examples of good use of leadership projects. I really appreciate being able to ask questions here and learn from y'all's experience. It's better to ask a crazy question here, first, and get reactions from experienced people, than to bring up the question first in the troop.
  17. As you all know, Assistant Patrol Leader is not one of the listed positions of responsibility for the Star or Life rank requirement. Yet an assistant patrol leader done well is a valuable position of service in the troop -- especially for a troop striving to well-utilize the patrol method and develop strong patrols. Do any of you have experience with a scout who desired to serve as an Assistant Patrol leader doing a "scoutmaster-approved leadership project" relevant to his role as APL? (The motivation, as I see it, would be so that prospective APL's feel that they can serve in that posit
  18. That's right. But the flip is that a person could be listed in scoutbook and not actually be a fully registered and valid MBC. How? Some council upload the council's list of merit badge counselors. These counselor then show up in scoutbook with a blue checkmark as "Approved by NNNNNNN Council". If the MBC has opted to be visible as a "Counselor for any Scout in the BSA" then troops from other councils can see him in scoutbook.com. But some councils like mine that don't upload the council's list of merit badge counselors into scoutbook.com. To be able to connect one of our tro
  19. There is a new activity log system as of, I think, today. We had been using the ability in the old system to make notes about trips. (Who slept in the cabin versus who pitched tents outside in below-freezing whether? Who arrived late and thus did not pitch her own tent but slept in a tent her friends pitched? etc, etc, etc) I cannot find these notes in the new system. Are they gone? Are am I simply not looking in the right place. Paper records are looking better and better.
  20. When my scouts were picking out neckerchief colors I told them they should not pick solid red (looks like communist young pioneers) nor solid black (Hitler Youth). I was not really concerned about people seeing black and making a Hilter Youth connection. (I have a troop of girls, and there does not seem to be a lot of German influence in the area in which we live.) I was genuniely concerned about how people locally would react to girls wearing red neckerchiefs. We have many adults in our community (including the parents of some of our scouts) who grew up in the People's Republic of China
  21. Thank you all for helping me think this through. @Eagledad, you articulated one of my underlying concerns that I had not actually identified yet – I don't want this enthusiastic scout to become discouraged by being “stuck” and to lose momentum. (Thanks for clearly articulating this issue.) And I realize, that even if I were to combine these two outings and call it close-enough, I would not solve the “stuck” problem – she would very quickly bump up against the need for another troop-or-patrol tent-camping trip for first class. Another layer under my concern, I realized, was whether th
  22. You can still do a parent as the second adult -- you just need to prepare in advance by proactively registering them as "reserve scouter" (which entails having them do YPT and background check). Once they've done this, next step is to get them to sign up as a merit badge counselor for some area in which they have skills and interest -- promising them that you will never require them to teach a merit badge class, you are merely hoping that they will be available when an eager and enthusiatic scout comes along wanting to learn about their field.
  23. Hello Strangers-On-The-Internet, I'd like your opinion. The covid-FAQ is permitting some temporary changes to allow Scouts to complete rank requirements, despite the need for social distancing. It discuss certain specific rank requirements. Specifically concerning camping it says “Tenderfoot rank requirements: 1b - Virtual patrol or troop campouts via video conferencing will be permitted.” and “Second Class rank requirements: 1a & 1c – Virtual patrol or troop activities via video conferencing will be permitted.” Note that virtual camping is not listed as permitted for Second Clas
  24. By the way, I found it odd that BSA (differing from Scouting for Boys) raises the hand well above shoulder high, rather than shoulder high, for the half salute. Also, I found it odd that the BSA does not accompany the scout handshake with the half salute. Scouting for Boys, page 42 says These are two areas in which GSUSA is closer to Baden-Powell than is BSA.
  25. No need to reinvent the wheel, here. Quoting Scouting for Boys, by Baden-Powell (page 41) And what is this secret sign and half salute? From page 40
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