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I'll be honest, I don't know. Probably when my sons leave the movement. But in all honesty I do not know. As for when it is not fun anymore, well the sense of obligation is keeping me in. The past few years have been extremely stressful in my neck of the woods. We have lost a lot of experienced volunteers with all the recent membership changes. At one point I was the acting district chair ( one quit, one never did the job, and one went MIA) district commissioner (two quit and went 18 months without one) Boy Scout RT commissioner ( 4 years without one), and activities chair ( 5 YEARS with

I am a former pro. At the lower levels, folks will make less than minimum wage if you calculate the number of hours they worked. One of my coworkers calculated we made about 33% of minimum wage during certain times of the year. Everyone I knew who left the profession usually got a job making a lot more in the for profit sector. In most cases 2x what they were making as a DE. One guy was making 3x. Even the mid level execs who left made more in the for profit sector. I do not begrudge the pros their salaries. What does anger me is that they have not been good financial stewards. The Summ

August 1, 1984 is when Webelos had the option of wearing the blue or tan and green uniforms, although it was announced earlier. I remember that because I was a Webelos that school year, and my mom was so happy she did not have to buy me a "new" blue uniform to wear for only 9 months, and then switch out. The tan shirt she got me was HUGE, and I wore it until I graduated high school! Yep, once a uniform, always a uniform. So if your Webelos want to wear a blue uniform, it's good. And if they wear tan and green numbers instead of the red and whites, they can wear a vintage August

On the Early Adopter Facebook Page, there are or were a series of videos talking about the June 11 changes to the program since girls are coming aboard and Lions are now full fledged Cub Scouts. That video talked about the new books, new neckers, and new uniform requirements for Webelos. They also mentioned that the Webelos diamond patch was being discontinued. Can't post the videos as the mods over there will ban you. That has happened once already, and I think they took down the video too. E'93 can confirm this.

That question and nationa's response was discussed a few months back. Last time it came up, which was when the video came out BTW, Boys dens can have 2 female leaders, but girls dens MUST have a female ADL or DL over 21.

there is probably enough in Supply that it will be 2-3 years before they are out. And I bet a death by chocolate Dutch oven cake they will be a demand for them, and supply will make them again. Look at knee socks. They keep getting rid of them, and demand for them brings them back.

Wife HATES current uniform. When she was a WDL she wanted to wear her Venturing uniform since any gray pants or shorts would work. Since she could not wear it as a WDL, I got her a complete vintage 1950s Den Mother's uniform, complete to patches, tie, and hat. But it is impractical in the field. She wore a pack t-shirt, hiking shorts and boots. OK, I know officially starting June 11 2018, all Webelos are SUPPOSE to be in the tan and green uniform. Me personally, I'd stay in a "vintage" blue Webelos uniform until he completely out grows it, or crosses over into Scouts, BSA. A S

1) Chris1, WELCOME TO DA FORUMS! 2) While extremely comfortable, Kilts do have disadvantages. Even the Scouts from the 105th Glasgow Scout Troop I met will tell you that. Especially if worn in true Scottish style. 3) Agree 110% I had a conversation with a cashier at Walmart once on the topic when she saw me in uniform after roundtable. Long short short, she lamented the fact that the onl,y time you see girl scouts is during cookie sales, and then they do not l;ook like Girls Scouts as she remembered from her day.

Heck, my kid's homeschool group did it for school as a team building exercise. And when I worked camp staff in the UK, the service crew did laser tag as a team building exercise.

The #1 problem I've seen with Scouts back from these programs is lack of support from the Scouters in their home troops. We did a post conference meeting when I staffed JLTC, and about 1/3 to 1/2 of the Scouters were not really helpful. Locally we had one new SM who had 3 Scouts go through NYLT, and would not let them implement the changes to improve the troop. Within 6 months, they either Eagled and left, or transferred to a troop that does support NYLT scouts.

DO NOT LET THE NEW SCOUTER ANYWHERE NEAR THE FIRST YEAR CAMPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and yes that is me shouting at you in warning, not anger ) He needs serious Cub Scout Leader deprogamming, and trained as a Boy Scouter, or should I say Scouts, BSA Scouter. I've seen first hand what new, well meaning, just crossed over parents/former Cub Leaders hover around first year campers, and it is a complete and total disaster. Do not make the mistake. #2 WELCOM

I went through the older Brownsea 22 program, and staffed one course of the previous JLTC program. Plus seen the results of numurous courses over the years. It all depends on the abilities and desires of the Scout. I have seen some 13 year olds gain from the expereince. I have also seen 13 and 14 year olds greatly challenged by the experience. When I staffed, we had one patrol of 13 and 14 year olds, and only 1 ended up staying the entire week. and completing the course. I strongly do not recomend under 13. We had one 12 year old in my patrol on a waiver, and he caused more problems than

I have been alone with Scouts for emergency reasons twice AND I WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN IF i CAN HELP IT! (Emphasis) First time was transporting a Scout to the hospital. Nothing happened, and he got the treatment and came back to camp with no additional problems. Second time was a week or two later and transporting another Scout to the hospital. While in the car, the Scout started going into shock and there was not a thing i could do but turn on the heater and talk to him to keep him conscious. THAT SCARED THE HECK OUT OF ME! He ended up being OK, but the shock did not help. Last

Understatement. National does not care what happens to the accused. Good friend was exonerated in the criminal investigation but was still not allowed to renew their membership, while the "Scout" was able to remain in the program, earn palms, hold office, etc. And this was a 10+ year DAM and SB recipient veteran Scouter who was about to get Vigil until the accusation got them kicked out of the movement.

Dawn Dish detergent, GoJo, Fast Orange. Just whatever you do, DO NOT DRY IN A DRYER!!!!!! (caps for emphasis, ok masybe screaming a warning at you ) Those are some of the things I've used, and you may need to wash it a bunch of times with the stuff. Just hang dry it, or it will be permament.

Not to change the subject, but curious. A) what does the new YPT say about Scouters over 21 contacting Scouters 18-20 and B) what does it say about FEMALE Scouters 18-20 working with a boys' troop? Back on topic, BSA will take the word of a Scout over an adult any day. And even when a criminal investigation exonerates the accused, they not only lost all respect and credibility in their community, but may not be allowed back inteh organization. Saw that happen first hand to a freind.

Problem is that national won't improve the situation, they want the increase in Eagles. If national wanted to improve the value, they would point blank say no more MBUs, making summer camp ins summer school, etc. They would allow SMs who know the Scouts didn't earn MBs to not give it to them. And when an EBOR appeal reaches national, AND THEY ACKNOWLEDGE MISTAKES WERE MADE (emphasis) they would make the Eagle redo some of the work BECAUSE HE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS ADVANCEMENT (emphasis again) and not just give it to him because "you do not penalize the Scout for the mistakes of the adul

With the exception of the pins, patches are correct. And even then, I've seen Cubs wear their pins all over the place: collars, above pockets, on p[ockets, etc.

From the 2 pages, looks like someone went on a buying frenzy and are now selling used shirt at new costs. Surprised national has not went after them yet. On a different note, explains why I am having a hard time getting old shirts.

Why do I think National Supply is thinking this will be a bonanza of sales with all the options for the girls? We have sold skorts and skirts in the past, and they were not popular at all. I remember when we had a sales on them, and still no one was buying them. In my 3-4 years with Supply, I sold 4 pairs, and they went to the manager and assistant manager. But if the girls can wear skirts, I will start wearing a kilt. Specifically this one: But I bet the council's commissioner corps will get a tad bit upset. For whatever reason, they adopted my clan's tartan as a local recogn

BSA dress uniforms are these: All programs but Sea Scouts Sea Scout Dress Whites Sea Scout Dress Blues: BSA field uniforms are these: Cub Scouts Boy Scouts Venturing Old Fogeys There is a push for Sea Scouts to wear this one: but many ships still wear this one

Shirts are hideous. Skirts are not practical in the field, so I don't know why they are event making them for a "FIELD uniform" (caps for emphasis) And what's up with the red? And what is up with the tabs on the p[ants? Forgot to add, is it me, are does the pockets on the pants look like they should be on the backside and not the front.

I would like to think the LDS Church will help their members who are pros find new jobs. Heck you BYU has a minor for their business majors, and as masters in nonprofit management, whihc I was told was designed to prepare folks to be DEs originally.

Having been a pro and dealing with membership stats, I feel for all the pros in heavy LDS districts and councils. Doesn't matter that this is not their fault, they will be held accountable for the loss from the powers that be, it wil affect their abilities to transfer and get priomoted, etc.