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Press relaeses are suppose to be out today I read on FB.

For early adopters, you were suppose to have a minimum of five. However that was not enforced. Just like separate dens was not enforced.

Houma of Louisiana are also supportive of the OA. Heck, several of the lodges down there have helped the Houma in their appeal for Federal recognition.

Several posts on the Vigil Honor facebook page comment on that, as well as comments on a ceremonies FB group, and my lodge chief, who is heavily invovled in AIA on the section level. That annoucement is suppose to be made at NOAC this summer from all indicators above. I know a lot of folks who will be ticked off.

Agreed, there have been several times that my sons patrol have met at my house. I would be the only adult home, and usually either go outside and play with youngest, or go to my office and shut the doors.

Once upon a time, Sea Scout Ships and Explorer Posts cold hold OA elections. That ended sometime in the mid-late 1980s. So I am not to concerned about that. What concerns me is the Lenni lanape Lore as I have been told that chapters are to no longer do Arrow of Light and Cross Over ceremonies, nor are they to wear Native American regalia. I think the OA will lose alot as a result.

That will cause problems for some units. I know back in the day, I was the only adult at camp the entire week, and 2 other adults would swap out. And yes, I was 19-20 when that happened. Also know of troops that have challenges with 21+ adults doing things and rely heavily on their 18-2o year old adutls. That is so screwed up. But saw that coming, especially with the introduction of girls. IMHO BSA is beginning to prepare for coed patrols, despite what they are saying about separate programs and "linked troops."

Why does this song keep popping into my head? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ2X9SANsME

Well, Wood Badge was described as the "Mountaintop Experience" and promoted as the completion of training back in the day in my home council. Once you went through the weeklong course and were working your ticket, you usually staffed all the other training programs. Heck the only reason why I was able to staff the Junior Leader Training Conference as a 20 year old Scouter was because I went through the old Brownsea 22 Course for Scouts, and had the same training foundation as the other Scouters who were working their ticket, or complete WB. While the previous Cub Scout Trainer and Boy Sco

1) WELCOME TO THE FORUMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2) Why does this not surprise me. I bewt she went straight from college to being a LfL exec too. I think the reason why BP and Green baer Bill were so successful is that they based their training programs on their personal experiences as youth growing up. They further experimented with their programs as adults before implementing, i.e. Brownsea island for BP, Troop 1 Schiff for Bill. Classes and theory can only take you so far. You have to LIVE IT to experience it.

District Director is a DE who supervises 1 other DE, usually in another district. Next step up is a Field Director, who supervises multiple DEs and DDs. DEs Are suppose to be serving in the background, supporting the district level volunteers who in turn support the units. If a DE has the right support, the units actually don't see him, they see the unit commissioner, or the event chair, or the advancement chair, etc. But when volunteers can't professionals must. So a lot of the jobs that volunteers don't want to do, the DE must do it.

Once upon a time Boy Scouter Wood Badge DID focus on outdoor skills as well as program and leadership as opposed to management. It was program specific and was the end all be all training course. It put you into patrols for a week straight. You camped, you did classes, and you learned.

I personally believe combining the Cub Scout Trainer Wood badge course and Boy Scouter Wood Badge course was a mistake. At one time WB was the pinacle of training, now not so much. Me too. Glad I took Bill's Brownsea 22 training for Scouts before it was discontinued.

No worries. I was hoping and praying the pioneering restrictions were gone. In fact, I was excited when you posted that there were no more. But the side of me that speaks BSA Bureaucratese Doublespeak said to confirm it before celebrating.

It will change over time. For me it was once all about the den and pack. I've moved on to all about the troop. Still focusing on the troop. But my current Scouting goal is to drink coffee in my chair and not have to get up for anything. Although after watching Shug Emery on youtube, and hammocking, I may just change that to drinking coffee from the hammock.

Yep. And the change to allow boating at pack and den activities occurred in May 2015, just prior to the June 2015-December 2016 Cub Scout Program. Funny story, I was complaining about some of the aquatic requirements not being able to be done except at council activities, and only if council's had the proper facilities. In my council, only 1 camp meets criteria, and it is at the extreme edge of the council (the neighboring council uses it more than we do!). Someone brought up all the safety stuff and why Cubs should only be able to do it at council events. I pointed out how Boy Scouts, S

Yes, I know. I was actually warned by a mentor of mine who had dealt with a number of pros over the years he volunteered and worked summer camp staff. I should have listened. Not every SE was like the one I had when I was contemplating going into the profession. They also did a lot of questionable things regarding membership too, but that is a different story.

Yeah, Scouting and grad school can be challenging. I had to miss some fun stuff due to school and other obligations the first time around.Second time around was a lot easier as I was just involved in the OA.

Actually up to circa 2012, Patrols could camp on their own WITHOUT (emphasis) adults. I am going to assume that is what Mike Rowe meant. Still in there. Page 92 has this Note: Pioneering projects, such as monkey bridges, have a maximum height of 6 feet. Close supervision should be followed when Scouts are building or using pioneering projects.

His New Scout Patrol that he was the PL of wanted him to run for SPL. He got enough of the votes that he got it. All things considered, he did a very good job. One of the older Scouts, one he looked up and actually beat, later said he was the best SPL the troop had had up to that point. Sadly that is the hardest thing for some adults. We have had challenges with adults taking over and it has negated all of the progress we were making a few years back. The Patrol Method is messy, time consuming, aggravating at times, and frustrating at others. BUT IT WORKS! (emphasis)

There are no national requirements. My oldest was SPL at 11 years old and Tenderfoot. If memory serves, the only PORs with National age requirements are Junior Assistant Scoutmaster and Leave No Trace Trainer, and both or 16+.

Worst CD I worked for not only brought a TV and gaming system to camp, he brought his satellite dish too. Yep he stayed in his loft most of the day and watched TV. Staff morale got so low over him and a few other key leaders at camp that someone was brought in who knew what they were doing to keep the staff from killing the CD. It was so bad, I was commuting 30 minutes each way to camp to avoid the problems he was causing.

I love it. I do something similar. I was working with German Scouts once and I got careless. There was a problem downrange, and I yelled "cease fire" 3x and expected instantaneous obedience to that command. So I started walking downrange without waiting for the translation to the Scout or confirming it was safe for me to walk downrange. A round was fired, and it went through my Smokey Bear. Thankfully A) it was BBs (which can still kill you, but less chance of it) and B) I wasn't hit. I use that as not only a reminder for myself, but also to the Scouts.

So far @RememberSchiff has some of my choices. I'd add sunscreeen and a wide brimmed hat. When I was running ranges, I usually wore either the Expedition hat, aka Brimmed hat, or one of my Smokey Bears. One guy I knew wore one of those Vietnamese conical hats. And I want to especially ditto water and hydration. One time i had no shade, and my thermometer was reading 114 degrees!

While we personally may not have hired them, they were hired to serve us. I have seen all kinds of execs; good, bad, lazy, industrious, and even criminal. There is a lot of work done behind the scenes to support the units. One of the reasons why my district is suffering like it is ( see my Breaking Point post) is that we do not have a full time DE to support us and help recruit the folks we need. As for mistreatment, that is one of the reasons many of the good ones leave. My council went through 9 DEs and 2 mid level executives in the 18 months I was a pro.