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I believe the UMC Church encouraged their congregations to get involved in the lawsuit for this very reason. I hope other COs did the same, including the COs I have been involved with. I know my current CO has worked through the overall denomination. No idea what my church has done, but I did email about this situation.

For those who may know him, Marty Tschetter passed away yesterday. He was one of the three that created OA Trail Crew at Pholmont. A bio is linked below. https://oa-bsa.org/article/profile-unselfish-service-marty-tschetter

Growing up, the city my troop met in, and one in Canada became "twin cities," and we had groups coming and going for a few years. When I did my 64 mile canoes trip in Canada, it was partnered with 2 troops there that acted as guides. When I was in the UK, folks would connect with troops they would be visiting, and use them as guides.

Apparently the person IDing the location is a Scouter.

The bankruptcy discussion is depressing me. So I have need to focus of good news, like last night. While I have been involved in Scouting as a Scouter for almost 30 years now, and have worked with I don't know how many Scouts over the years, last night was special. I sat on an EBOR for a Scout who was in my first Tiger Cub den back in the day. He is the second one in my den to make Eagle (the first being my oldest), and having watched him grow up I am really proud of him. Especially with the challenges at home he faced. This is a young man who will go far in life.

Which is what Kosnoff wants.

I am not a lawyer, so this is a honest question. If LCs and COs did NOT file claims against the BSA prior to the November 2020 deadline, then the LCs and COs are completely on their own and cannot sue BSA for breach of contract, or whatever legal term it would be, for not honoring the agreements in the charter agreements from all these years? My understanding is part of the charter fees everyone paid was to protect the CO and LC from lawsuits just like this.

I would rather see the bench and birdfeeders than the Lego Model. https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2017/12/08/eagle-scout-creates-lego-models-of-historic-hotels-for-his-eagle-project-and-for-fun/

COVID is here to stay. Read the research and listen to epidemiologists, and they all say the same thing: vaccines will be effective for 6 - 9 months, and then a booster will be needed to cover the variants. back in June/July there were over 30 variants. When I checked in March there were over 660 variants. This is one nasty bug.

Then why is the BSA responsible for the abuse if they had an internal database, similar to the recommended CDC database, that they checked volunteers against to prevent known and/or suspected abusers from joining? Kosnoff et al have used the IVF to say that the BSA knows there is an abuse problem and did nothing to prevent it. They used the IVF to find victims to start suing the BSA. The IVF, a tool to prevent abuse before a time of mandatory reporting, is now being used to kill the BSA.

After what is happening to the BSA because of their internal database, I do not think any lawyer for a youth organization in their right mind would say this is a good idea. It opens them up to lawsuits.

It' s not just in schools either. Good friend of mine was placed in the IVF because a Scout accused her of making a pass at him. She caught him after lights out in the women's showers area being a peeping Tom, among other things. A criminal investigation occurred, and they found enough evidence that he left to verify her story. She was never charged with a crime, but she was still barred from being a Scouter because of his accusation. Further her reputation was ruined because she was she was removed. This is the same "Scout" who lied about me and another adult giving him permission to stay out after hours at a national event. Thank goodness his accomplices fessed up that he was lying about us.

When oldest was planning his ECOH, the wife told him that he should plan his ECOH like he would his wedding, except for the wedding it will be the fiancee/ future MIL show as he will have no say.

If you call summer camps turning into merit badge factories and weekend merit badge colleges where the expectation is you show up you get the MB more resources, then yes. But the quality of instruction has gone down. Ever worked a summer camp, and have 30 people in you Lifesaving MB class? Ever been told you cannot kick out Scouts when they misbehave, cut up, and cause issues where you cannot go over the skills with those who are behaving? No, but the standard has. Reading my 1979 edition of the BSHB, the standard was "Master the Skills." By the time you earned eagle, the standard was "The Badge represents what the Scout CAN DO, not what he has done (sic)." Today, "... badges recognize that Scouts have gone through experiences of learning things they did not previously know." That has created a "one and done" mentality in advancement. I have seen Life Scouts who could not do basic Tenderfoot through First Class first aid because "I don't remember that, I took it my first year at summer camp." Some Scouters today would say you wasted your time only earning 4 MBs that week. I am old school, I say have fun and take advantage of opportunities. One of my Scouts is taking 2 classes at camp; a 3 hour climbing class, and a 3 hour cycling class ( mountain biking option). I have no problem with that. Most definitely. I have ran into SMs who do not understand why camping is so important. As a result, that troop never went camping unless it was a MB weekend or camporee.

Scouting was never intended to be family oriented. Scouting was intended to allow youth to develop themselves on their own. It was designed to replace the gangs of Victorian and Edwardian England, and give them a direction and purpose that would make them better citizens. I have seen first hand what can happen with "family Scouting." It is not pretty, and Scouts will leave. They will get fed up by the constant parental interruptions at meetings and on camp outs. They will get fed up with the parents overruling their decisions on their program. They will get fed up with parents allowing their child to cut corners. They will get fed up when it is pouring down raining and the parents start barking commands on how to set up, when the SPL had already issued instructions based upon the troop SOP. They will REALLLY get fed up when after the parents interference causing major problems in the cold, wet rain. the parents complain about the confusion and chaos the Scouts are exhibiting, not realizing it is the parents fault. If "Family Scouting" become the norm, I am done. I am already tired and depressed of all the negative news reports of this lawsuit. Combine that with reading some of the things that folks are allowing in the name of "advancement," I am wondering if it is worth it. And National is praising some of the foolishness that is going on. I am sorry, but there is no way someone can "earn" a merit badge online with 130 other scouts.

THIS! One of my proudest moments as a DE was starting a minority unit. It took a lot of time to get it done, and I needed the right folks in the right positions. Sadly when the key to that unit left Scouting after 5 years, the unit I started folded because they could not find anyone else. I would NOT want my kids with anyone with just BSA training, even WB, at the Scouts BSA level. At the Cub Level, you have other DLs and the CM to bounce ideas off of and get help. And sadly the commissioner corps is non-existent in most places. You gotta develop relationships. Those relationships will get units started and continuing. Relationships also provide the exchange of ideas, and mentoring, needed by new Scouters. One of the things I hated about being a DE was the pressure to start new units. I understand why it's important, you gotta grow. BUT when existing units are having issues that you need to help them out with, or are dead for all intents and purposes, it is a major challenge. And I know the UCs are suppose to be helping, but again when you do not have a commissioner corps, you gotta do it yourself.

These two quotes concern me: National is already using the term "Family Scouting," and I have seen it used by troops to include all members of the family. It nearly destroyed the troop.

Oh yeah weather can be unpredictable. I went camping with my family on a bald. Checked weather prior to going on the trip, again in the parking lot, a third time on the climb up, and a 4th time prior to setting up camp. Wife was in the kids tent reading to them, and something told me to check the weather radio one more time. Sure enough lightning storm was a few miles away and headed in our direction. took us two trips to move everything, and the wife and I barely made it on the second trip before the storm hit.

Yeah, I saw those labels when I was looking for compasses. Some BSA licensees do sell on Amazon. But national does not.

No. Does the name Norton? That was the Quartermaster's last name who served as SM when I was an ASM.

My thoughts on the matter. 1. regarding this quote: How often does BSA policies change? How long after a policy change does it take to get full compliance? Venturing started on August 1, 1998, and almost 23 years later folks still call Venturing Crews, "Venture Crews," and Venturers, "Venture Scouts." 2. Has anyone besides myself ever taken off insignia to be compliant with uniform, or in my case work, regulations, and have very noticeable "spots" where the insignia was at? 3. The Guide to Awards and Insignia State, Do you know how much of a pain it is to sew on one knot? Try removing and rearranging knots. Then multiply that by the number of shirts you need to to that on? It can be a time consuming exercise, that leaves "spots." I am not at the stage where I have 10 knots. But I have no problems with folks wearing more than 9, especially if they are in an older uniform shirt. That said, am I compliant? Yes. Although I have the older Sea Scout dress whites, both shirts have 6 knots, 4 reproduction Sea Scout white background knots from SHIPS STORES, and two official issue.

Regarding old uniforms, if the shirt you have all the knots on predates the new requirement, it's is legit. I mentioned in a previous post that when I returned to work at the Scout Shop, my manager allowed me to wear my WSJ insignia and knots. Part of that was because it was obvious where my regional patch was worn because it's outline remained.

Can the judge order his appearance?

Alas, the bulk of WWII torpedoes had issues, and either could not hit the target, or if they hit, not detonate. The US had to reverse engineer captured IJN torpedoes to fix the problem. As to the torpedo tubes, I bet the Navy fixed it so they were inoperable. However, a good Chief Gunner's Mate could probably make them operable again, kinda like the 5" guns on the USS KIDD (DD 661). 😝