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Eagle94-A1

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  1. Someone asked how someone who does not live by the scout oath and law, yet advances affects others. In my experience is VERY negatively. The bullying, year-round soccer playing "scout" I mentioned previously is an example. As soon as my son heard that the scout was going to be appointed troop guide for my son's den when they crossed over, my son said he definately didn't want to join the troop since the troublemaker would be in charge of him.
  2. Ok back. Up until about 7 years ago, the local scout camp where two of the three districts have their camporees was really neglected by the council PTB. Improvements were done by the individual troops and OA chapters. So troops would spend their own money making improvements on "their" campsites: water spigots, shelters, tables, fire rings, etc. Troops, and to a lesser degree their feeder packs, are very protective of "their" campsite. Best example of that would be the council level Cub Scout camp out at the camp where 1 pack refused to allow anyone to share "their" campsite. Thankfull
  3. One of the issues we have is that on the Cub Scout side, the tight circle is essentially 3 people; the activities chair who has driven folks nuts with her micromanaging everything she is in charge of to the point she drives people away, and the Day Camp CD and PD who are trying to build and mend bridges whom the activities chair has upset. Webeloree is considered a Boy Scout event because A) lots of troops staff it B) recruiting tool for troops, and C) activities chair has no involvement with Boy Scouts. Still working on the benefits and disadvantages on the Boy Scout side of things
  4. What's a Troop MB Counselor? I thought all MBCs were district positions.
  5. Slapper, 1) WELCOME TO DA FORUMS!!!!! ( And yes, I am screaming at you in joy for finding us. ) 2) Must have been one heck of a good Crossover Ceremony your local OA did to get him interested in the OA already. For that I say your OA chapter did an AWESOME job! 3) I'd tell your son to focus on mastering the Tenderfoot, Second Class, and First Class Scout (T-2-1) skills before worrying about the OA. In order to be in the OA, you have to be First Class, have 14 or 15 days and nights of camping, including 1 long term camp (summer camp) 4) Also tell him to live by the Scout
  6. My question to you is how do the athletes act when the coaches are not around? In my younger days I've been around student-athletes who acted just as bad as some of the Scouts, sometimes worse. Arrogant, egotistical, rules don't apply to me attitude, damaging property, causing fights, bullying, ad nauseum. Worse part of two jobs was dealing with the athletes. Do I see a spoiled brats in Scouting, yes I do. I also see them in everyday life in all endeavors,including sports. Heck the worse "scout" I know does soccer year-round in various programs. Sorry you feel that you cannot recomme
  7. So if we are suppose to use the BSA's waiver for every trip, then why do we have Part A of the Annual Health and Medical Form, which states "Informed Consent, Release Agreement, and Authorization" and has wording that is identical to the waiver. Plus it also has the photo release added to it. In all honesty, this is extremely frustrating. We need to carry 2 sets of forms with the same information? Ridiculous.
  8. SP, You'd be surprised. In my neck of the woods, there is still the mentality that 'Cubs don't need to camp." Yep heard that from a 4 bead WB21C SM, Vigil Honor member of the council camping committee. So Cub Scouts is an afterthought. Give you an example. Since 2010, there has been a "Cub World" with Cub Specific activities and camping area that has been held in conjunction with the council's Boy Scout camporee. I don't remember ever getting the Cub World info at the same time as the camporee info. Reason being that that not much emphasis is placed on the Cub event. With the excep
  9. SM2, 1) WELCOME TO DA FORUMS! 2) I provided links to two uniform links, the Inspection Sheets and current uniform price guide below. 3) I am going to assume that he went with the current issue, tan and green Webelos uniform option. What needs to be done is the following A) He will need a new, green Boy Scout hat. B) He will need new green shoulder loops C) He will need a new Boy Scout green belt. D) He will need a Boy Scout Handbook E) He will need new green on tan numbers F) Depending upon the troop, he will either be issued or need t
  10. Fehler, Are the campouts something the packs can do on their own? I haven't read all of the requirements yet. ALSO I do know that for those units that cannot camp, specifically LDS packs but maybe a few others, the information being given to RT commissioners is that Troops can do day activities that do the camping activitities, i.e. campfire, cooking, etc. instead. Also said that family camping would meet the requirements too. So I'm assuming, and you know what can happen when you AsUMe , that that option will be available for everyone.
  11. Blue and Gold should be in February as thatis Scout Anniversary Month. But I know some units push it back to March since December is essentially a loss with Christmas holidays. Biggest concern the leaders at my RT is Crossover in the December through March timeframe. According to the literature out so far, You cannot start on AOL badge until after June 1st prior to 5th grade. All of our packs start working on AOL requirements simoultaneosly with the Webelos badge. And as soon as they finish Webelos badge, they then work on AOL exclusively. So we have Cub Scouts crossing over to Boy Scout
  12. http://www.scouting.org/Home/programupdates.aspx These are the biggest changes to theCub Scout program in over 40 years, and probably longer. In a nutshell All ranks will require 7 "Adventures" that consist of 2 den meetings, 1 activity, and a pack meeting to get recognized. Each adventure will be either a belt loop (T-W-B) or Pin ( Webelos). The Webelos badge is no longer required for AOL. Some requirements for the adventures working with other dens, visiting a pack committee meeting, etc. More outdoor activities including Camping.
  13. I know in August 1982, Tiger Cubs became a BSA program for 2nd graders. 3rd grade or 8 years old was when Cub Scout began. Wolf in 3rd, Bear in 4th, and Webelos in 5th. That's why some religious programs have 1 religious award for Tiger and Wolves, and one for Bears and Webelos.
  14. Just out of curiousity, what happens if a group wins the lottery, but then backs out? Is there a waiting list? Like I mentioned previously, we have a troop that won the Sea Base lottery, and when it was announced on their facebook page, it appeared as if this was the first time the parents of the Scouts heard about it. The leader is know for doing spur of the moment things, and some have speculated that his troop signing up for Sea Base is one of them. Especially since he was trying to sign up for Philmont with another troop in the district the month before. I know that these activit
  15. One of the issues I've encountered is that summer camp is a "bonding time" that allows acceptance of the younger scouts more easily than if they didn't attend. In my expereince, not only did the guys in my den who went to camp come back way ahead of me advancement wise, but more importantly were accepted by the rest of the troop. By not going through that experience, I had some challenges with my patrol and troop. I did quit. Thankfully I eventually found another troop to be in. I've seen the same thing happen,especially in NSPs where folks are coming from different dens and/or packs
  16. It will take approximately 7 months to earn AOL in the new program. 1 "adventure" is 2 den meetings, a "Go See It," and a Pack Meeting. Hence 1 month. Grant you every pack does things differently. In my neck of the woods, Round Ups are not finished until mid to late October. grant you at Webelos it doesn't affect ya as much, but Tigers and Wolves, most definitely. And December is a wash because of Christmas holidays. Now my pack and others tend not to meet on school is not in session, i.e. holidays and teacher workdays. While Holidays are unerstadnable, the work days tend to be the same
  17. Somewhere I read in the materials out, sorry I cannot find them at the moment, is that 4th graders can only work on the Webelos badge requirements. Once they finish 4th grade, or June 1st, THEN they can work on AOL requirements. Whereas now as soon as they finish Webelos badge, they can work on AOL. So if you cannot work on AOL until June 1st, and the pack doesn't really meet until September, then you are looking at a May Crossover. We've found that the Webelos are chomping at the bit to be Boy Scouts in December. It also gives them, and I've found the parents, more time to get to know th
  18. '90, I'd call them. They may not have done the lottery yet after all. That same SM said he made reservations for summer camp this year, and when I went to the camp's leader's meeting, they were not listed.
  19. Agree with you 110% In regards to day camp, to use a saying from my old home council camp, "she was pulling stuff out of the magic sphincter." Day Camp had lots of issues under her. A very large portion of them went away when she was removed. In regards to other events, what saves her is that they are sponsored events by local organizations. She is responsible for organizing the event and some supplies like ribbons, trophies etc. The civic organization supply the manpower and other supplies like the ramp or track. The events are good, but some of problems happen over and over again
  20. BLW, Of the four packs I'm familiar with ( mine, and three friends') all of them will continue to use the current program for the current 4th grade Webelos. Some of the reasons given are the following 1. Doesn't make sense for the boys and their parents to buy new books that tehy will only use for a few months 2. Doesn't make sense to have them redo some activities they already done because of the way the new requirements are written. 3. For 2 packs, they do not want to do anything that may disrupt their scheduled December Crossover date. And the new program looks like it w
  21. SSScout, I may be one of the few folks who is for the merger. We are already sharing a DD with the 2 districts, but maintaining our own district. None of the three districts have received the support we use to have because of conflicting schedules, priorities, etc. that the professionals have with juggling 3 districts. i know as a DE back itneh day, dealing with just my district was a challenge. I can't imagine how our DD does it. I think consolidating would be beneficial. But before I commit, I want as much information as possible. But in all honesty I think the compromise solutio
  22. Did you get in? I know one troop in our council that got in, but from the response I'm seeing from the SM's announcement that they got a spot, seems as if no one in the troop knew he was even applying.
  23. Some background on why there is talk of merging. 1) Council is facing economic difficulties like everyone in today's economy. 2 years ago there was talk about redistricting since we downsized on the number of Pros. However there was stiff resistance to that. As a compromise they reduced the number of pros, but kept the same number of districts. A Dist. Director and DE are suppose to cover 3 districts. However, It is a lot of stress on the pros as you can imagine, and we have been running through DEs. Right now my DD is responsible for all 3 districts as he has no DE working with him at th
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