Eagle94-A1

http://www.scoutstuff.org/media/content/docs/pdfs/6590UnifTowerPrcChgesFNL.pdf is the PDF with items and what not. Guide to Awards and Insignia link to Venturing section. http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/Venturing_Insignia.pdf

A lot has to do with various laws and ordinances. I remember about 17 years ago, I left the All Hands conferene in Nashville early to avoid getting stuck there due to a hurricane. I was lucky as I got onthe last plane out of Nashville to home. When I got to my apartment, I had a message that the OA chapter was being called up to be part of the emergency response team and to set up and man the local evacuation shelter. Yep the OA did the work. For whatever reason, that stopped when I came back to the area 5 years later. I think they put an age requirement on doing the job, but I honestly do not know. I do know that some organizations that use volunteers, both locally and nationally, have put a minimum age of 16 in order to volunteer. Mostly due to legal issues.

Is it me, but is the automatic link from myscouting.org to my.scouting.org really messed up and useless? A former volunteer, who is an info specialist, had some issues trying to do YPT. She can make most databases dance on her fingertips, but not BSA's.

The way it is suppose to work is the following: If they had not earned their Webelos Badge by May 31, 2015, then they are suppose to use the new program to earn the AOL. New Cubs, heck even old Cubs who didn't meet the deadline, do NOT (emphasis) need to earn Webelos Badge in order to eaqrn the AOL. Me personally, if they started under the old program, even if they didn't earn the Webelos Badge by the May 31st deadline, I'd still have them finish it under the old requirements, and keep them working on AOL under the old ones. Why buy a new book they will use for only 5 - 8 Months? Also as my son pointed out, since the Webelos Badge is no longer needed to get AOL, if you got a 10 year old 4th grader, and I will, then he can go directly to working on the AOL badge. My middle son plans on doing that, and I cannot think of a rational reason why to hold him back.

August 1, 1989 to be exact. I remember riding on a bus in Canada being told about the change and how a lot fo folks who had not earned it yet were ticked off. heck a few of us who did have it were ticked off. Leaders made it up to use by issuing the Canadian version, which had a velvet background, to us. EDITED: The reason it's not earned is WOSM wants one emblem to show the worldwide brotherhood of Scouting, and the world crest was it. All members; Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, Varsity Scouts, Venturers, and nowSea Scouts (for whatever reason the 2012 manual still does not include it, but hte New Century Uniform does).

If memory serves, it was 1972 and the Improved Scout Program. That was when neckerchief could be worn under an open collar, or not at all. Don't know when they shrunk the neckers to Cub Scout size either.

They are still earning pins to be worn on the Webelos Tri-Colors. I'm betting the editors got confused with the lower Cub Scout ranks, and kept calling them loops since that is what Tigers, Wolves, and Bears are calling it. On a slightly different tack, what are LDS units doing in regards to the Adventures; are you skipping Webelos and going directly to Arrow of Light, or are you making them earn both ranks in a year? Se my question on this page for more details. http://scouter.com/index.php/topic/27105-new-cub-scout-program/

Interesting situation came up tonite as a result of the new program. My middle son has a late birthday, and will turn 10 this year. Since he will meet the " six months since turning 10" requirement for the AOLby the end of the school year, he now has a goal of earning his Arrow of Light by May so he can " go to summer camp...." He knows that the Webelos badge is no longer required for AOL, and instead of working on the Webelos Badge, he wants to start working on AOL instead. For example, for both the Webelos Badge, and Arrow of Light Badge, both have a Duty to God requirement that gives you the option of earning your religious award, or if you already have it, doing certain other requirements. he said he wants to earn his religious award, but put it towards the Arrow of Light, and not Webelos. Your thoughts on the situation? i told him it's possible to do both in a year. Also what are LDS units doing? Are you guys skipping Webelos Badge and going directly to AOL, or are you having them earn both still?

Last time I put together ITOLs, I wanted the best people I knew teaching the basic skills. I had some buddies who needed to take ITOLs to be "trained' that had the knowledge, skill, and abilities to teach, so I put them on staff. The scouter who served on summer camp, been to Philmont 2 times, is a geocacher and does orienteering as a hobby, yep taught orienteering. The three beader who was "untrained" becasue he never had the time to take ITOLs ( he went through WB as a Cubmaster) and can not only outcook anyone I know, but also gives me a run for firebuilding ( I'm still better than him ) yep taught those skills. The scouter who served on summer camp staff as a youth, was a combat medic, and is an EMT, yep taught first aid. The participant who was active duty Navy and knew his seamanship knots, yep he helped teach knots. The only time I EVER discourage sharing experiences and knowledge is when the course is starting to run over. Then it's time for the"parking lot meeting after the meeting."

Back when I worked for supply, I had to wear them. They are a pain. Don't have them on the uniform now.

Another reason for me to hate "Family Night."

Guess I shouldn't be a trainer. Last time I did "Train the Trainer" was back in 1994 when I was on JLT staff, and it was part of the staff training. Never taken Trainer's E.D.G.E. before Guess my minor in secondary education don't count. Guess my job as a teacher-counselor for a "Hoods in da Woods" organization doesn't count. Guess my old PT job of teaching college history doesn't count. Guess my current FT job of working an an education department teaching CPR and how to deal with out of control people doesn't count. Guess my two times at NCS don't count much And I guess the past 30+ years of teaching various courses to adults counts. Looks like our brand new district training chair, who just became a Boy Scout leader in June will need to find someone else to work with him on training.

I was the one that did the enrolling in classes on the computer system the camp we went to uses. They have only 1 time slot for open swim, and I suggested that everyone take off that period so that they can cool down. One of the Scouts wasn't game for that. he wanted the period immediately after lunch free because the showers were easily avilable and he could take an afternoon nap. More power to him.

Home made bolos and/or Turk's heads if they wear neckers.

I agree 110% I am getting strange looks when I tell folks my son didn't earn a single MB this past summer camp. All partials. Folks think I wasted money sending him to camp. Funny thing is I'm really proud of how he acted. He was assigned by the SPL as "Acting ASPL" whenever the ASPL was out of camp due to baseball. He looked after the first year Scouts, even helping one homesick Scout out. Did I mention he's 11 and this is only his second summer at camp? "Train 'em. Trust 'em. LET THEM LEAD!" As for advancement being secondary, my troop is slowly turning into advancement oriented. Reason being we got a Philmont crew that our older Scouts are going on, but they need to be First Class. Out of the entire group going, only 3 are First Class or higher. Rest are Scout or Tenderfoot.

I personsally am against solo adventures as I beleive in the "Rule of 4:" You always want a minimum of 4 folks when you do adventures. That way 1 can do first aid, and two can go get help. Had a friend who attempted a solo hike in Yellowstone. Despite knowing better, he didn't tell anyone where he was going, when he would be back etc. He just told some folks he was going hiking. Long story short, he had an accident and was stuck on a ledge for a week. Luckily he remembered to pack the 10 essentials, and had his survival kit in his day pack. Yep I had some friendly banter with him when I saw him at summer camp after the incident. BUT when he talked to the Wilderness Survival MB classes veryone was listening.

Little Free Libraries for an Eagle Project? CCCCOOOOOOOLLLLLL! Wife headed up one of those for the homeschool group. Beneficiaries, besides the community as a whole, would be the individual locations if they are not owned by the same entity. If it was in my neck of the woods, I'd suggest the mayor, but he's an Eagle and extremely supportive of Scouting.

Anyone ever here of the Duke of Edinburgh (DofE) (SP) award? Wish we could do it here in the US as part of BSA. Alas, alot of what they do is against G2SS.

Ok, how did you make a Scout in Minecraft?

That was me; Life at 13, Eagle at 18. What got me going? 2 things. 1) Seeing my friends and those who I taught basic T-2-1 skills making Eagle. But that was a little motiviation. 2) A comment my SM made after I made a joke about "Getting old" after one of the guys I worked with being recognized as passing hie EBOR. "If some people got off their duffs, they could get Eagle before they turned 18." That comment cut to the quick and made me realize I had less that 8 months to get the last 3 MBs I needed. I pushed it, completing Personal Mangement 5 days before turning 18. As other said, the Scout has to want it.

Definately smaller, and without folks with strong outtdoor backgrounds liek way back when, probably not that outdoor oriented.

I think the biggest difference between LDS and non-LDS units are the leaders. In LDS units, you are "called" or appointed to be a leader, whether you want to be one or not. So there may be no interest in doing a "decent job." In non-LDS units you have volunteers that, for whatever reason, have some motivation to be a leader. It can be their sons, it can be that scouting is their passion. The volunteers have the motivation to do a "decent job." I have a job, in which I am subject to having my schedule changed on a minutes notice, and yes I've stayed late without prior warning several times. I've also had to deal with family health issues which have dramatically impacted my family for the past 12 years. So yes, I understand work and family commitments. But I'm also involved with 2 units, the district committee, and am a RT commissioner. I do a "decent job" because I have a lot of kids, including my three hoodlums, depending upon me. Could I be a better leader, absolutely. But where I'm at, there is a lack of volunteers willing to help out. Someone needs to help the youth.

Unfortunately I know of one Scout who was having major family issues due to divorce. When his grades slipped, mom grounded him, including no Scouts. He attempted suicide because for him, his SM was the only adult that cared about him and what was going on. For him Scouting was the positive, safe environment. Once he recuperated and got help, he returned to the troop until mom and siblings moved. I hope he found another good troop wherever he went.

1) BSA goes with the lowest bidder, 2) When this fiasco started with SCOUTNET2000 in 1998, one of my fellow DEs, who worked in IT prior to and after leaving the BSA, tol dme this fiasco would haunt us for years because: A) Guy in charge had 0% IT background, he was a former SE B) Company being used was known in the IT field at the time for lowballing their bids, making hteir money with fixing the bugs.

I had a conversation with the new Scouts last meeting. i told them EVERY time they get something signed off for advancement, ESPECIALLY AFTER BORs ( all caps emphasis), they need to make a copy of their advancement sheets and store them in a safe place. Told then about what happened to me, book splitting and then going for a swim, as well as what happened top a friend, council had his records so messed up that he was listed as a First Class Scout when he was going for his Eagle. Told them in both instances, the copies from the book worked because THEY ARE THE OFFICIAL RECORD OF THEIR ADVANCEMENT! Everything else is just confirmation.