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Everything posted by WisconsinMomma

  1. I would like to say I really don't care how colleges view my boys' Eagle awards, if they even get them. If a college looks at my kids and doesn't see them as wonderful people, then it's their loss. And, I get that top colleges are competitive, but I don't really know if my kids will be chasing top colleges. What I want in an Eagle Scout journey for my sons is the maturity and real world experience the journey gives them. My boys are youngish, 11 and 13 and they are just starting to learn. My older son was supposed to lead cooking on this last weekend's campout and I heard it
  2. Nice Kilt! I will say, I hate BSA pants. I have women's pants, two pair in the tech fabric and one in the cotton and I hate them all. I wear them because I wear the uniform, but I do not like wearing them. The shirt is fine. I don't have a lot of opinions on the new uniforms, I hope they make more choices in olive for women's pants. I will need a new shirt for BSA soon but may buy a secondhand shirt. In other news, my youngest became a WEBELOS scout this week. He wants to wear a tan shirt but has to wait one more year!
  3. On another forum I belong to, someone was bemoaning the decline of their religion, and someone mentioned this book. I have not read it, but the concept is that many social organizations are struggling. Bowling Alone, The Collapse and Revival of American Community. https://www.amazon.com/Bowling-Alone-Collapse-American-Community/dp/0743203046/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1526652514&sr=8-1&keywords=bowling+alone
  4. It looks like red wolf neckerchiefs are on backorder at the online shop. We are doing crossover next week, and I wonder if we should try to go red?
  5. What I noticed in our last Pack committee discussion is a sense of fear of treating the girls "unequally", and it seems that some think that co-ed will reduce risk of being accused of being unfair. I think that some folks on our committee (in cubs) are afraid of looking bad, and that they think that separation is inherently wrong. I would like to find ways to encourage the girls and boys to have their own space but I'm not sure it will fly at all with people who are concerned about political correctness and perceived injustice, real or imagined. It will be interesting to see how it plays out
  6. I'm not sure that I agree with that. My bigger concern is that people will demand immediate entry into boys troops because of insufficient volunteers for girls troops. So, I am really hoping that some strong girls programs will form and that some girls' parents will dig in to volunteering with the BSA. Not all troops are equal anyway, each troop has its own personality and strengths and weaknesses.
  7. It seems that some people are squeamish about perceived discrimination against girls with separate Troops. I'm not sure I understand it and think it would be good to discuss so we can be prepared to support or defend BSA's policy of separate male and female troops as needed. Thanks!
  8. Right now, we are only talking about girls in Cub Scouts. I expect our Troop will stay all boy, and then if they choose to avoid girls,it may just take some creative planning.
  9. Honestly, I really don't know how this will play out in real life until we get there. It will be a learning experience!
  10. We discussed girls at the committee last night, and our Pack will bring in girl dens if there is interest. The Pack will also have boys and girls potentially working co-ed as needed for programming, which is a concern, but a few leaders were told "off the record" that this was acceptable to our council and bought into the idea. So now we will wait and see if any girls take an interest in the Fall recruiting season. We will not poach from Girl Scouts and it sounds like the families on committee who are active in GSUSA will stick with the program they started with. It will be interesting to
  11. Hey guys, has anyone been to Tesomas Scout camp? I don't think they have patrol cooking, but they seem like they are highly rated and I've heard they have scouts from all over come. I'm also interested in hearing more about Camp Freeland Leslie. Our troop has been to Gartner Dam for the past 3 years and the boys might get a choice of camps in the future. Thanks!
  12. Son #1 cleaned the garage this weekend as a part of his Family Life merit badge work.  Earlier, we put gravel on a path in the yard as the family project. He's almost done with this badge!  Just need a family meeting.  Son #2 got the hang of diving and going under water well enough to complete the Swimming merit badge -- woo woo!

  13. Yes, of course, I heard this from a parent. Perhaps we need to introduce some super-cool high adventure to keep these boys engaged in the next couple years.
  14. The only race I have heard of in our Troop is of the boys who want to finish their Eagles and get out before the girls arrive. However, I think this is short sighted and the girls won't be in their Troop, so what do they care? But, it is out there. ETA: This could really hurt our troop if the 16 year olds start bailing out early, it is nice to have older boys to lead the way for the younger ones.
  15. I just don't care when girls start getting the first Eagle. They should follow the program, but if it only takes 22 months or whatever, so be it.
  16. I think at this time it's too early to tell how much interest there is from families of girls for BSA programs. I mean, it's still barely getting started. At our Back to School night when we have a recruiting table, it will be interesting to see if any families of girls will ask for info. Also, I know a lot of girls' families but I need to be careful not to step on the toes of the GSUSA, which of course has many girls right now. I think the girls' programs will start very very small, but that's OK because it will be more manageable. I think it will take at least 2 years before we k
  17. I talked with another mom today after an event. She has an older daughter (15) in Girl Scouts who basically just does camp, a son who left Cub Scouts because he didn't like the group of boys in Scouts and was getting bullied, and a daughter who is in Scouts. The Girl Scout leader is very very very active and always taking the girls to do things. I asked my friend if their family would be interested in the BSA, now that there are opportunities for girls. She didn't know. I also don't know, because this is all still in the very early stages. It was difficult to have the conversations tal
  18. I really don't think it's going to be that bad, to be honest. But it may depend on the area of the country you live in. I just heard about a library in Alaska that is having a drag queen storytime, led by drag queens and where children are encouraged to dress up as the opposite gender. In comparison, bringing in girl units to the BSA is very, very modest and mild.
  19. Do you think they will be willing to sponsor an all girls Troop too? Or a Venturing crew? Or a girl cub unit? What you really really need are parents of girls who are willing to volunteer and get trained. That's your core.
  20. Yes, but.... as volunteers we have influence over this, and we can say -- let's have an all girls troop -- and encourage that path rather than single gender patrols in a mixed troop path. Sell it -- girls will flourish with other girls. Plus, BSA wants girls Troops, not single gender mixed troop troops, so let's help them get there. The best defense is a good offense?? Or the best offense is a good defense?? Eh, you know what I mean. The parents are going to go to wherever the girls are welcomed. So let's make some all girl Troops that have good foundations to build on. Districts sho
  21. I don't think Scouts will go fully co-ed, if as volunteers we can get girl Troops and Packs off to a strong start. Now, I can't speak for rogue troops and packs that don't follow BSA policy, you'll always get some of that, but if Scouters work to help girls make great girl Packs and Troops, then each gender can have their own strong program. There will likely be some interaction at merit badge fairs and such, but staunch single gender folks just won't go to those events.
  22. Here's what I"m thinking -- we need to make strong girl Packs and Troops and help them get off the ground, so they can maintain their separation and independence from the Boy Packs and Troops. Does that make sense?
  23. Yes, contact the Chartered Organization with your concerns and ask them for support. Your Committee Chair, if she is lying about her husband's criminal record, should be removed from that position, IMO. The Chartered Organization should also be able to ask the husband not to come on outings. Lastly, you should talk to your council Scout Executive and ask them for how you should handle this, to make sure the Scouts in that pack are protected. You also have the option of finding another pack. Best wishes.
  24. This is a very old thread, but I will throw in a few things. At the beginning of the school year, there is a lot going on, and sometimes dens don't really get rolling right away in September. Everyone is adjusting to back to school, etc. Den leaders should have a plan and a calendar for the year, but the calendar also gets some input from the families in the dens. I would always check with the families to see what nights they're available, and this took a little while to work out. With my dens, we tried to meet 2x a month plus a monthly pack meeting. But sometimes it varied.
  25. Yeah, but just because that's what some Packs are doing doesn't mean that's what our Pack has to do.
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