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  1. Storage ideas

    Our Troop has generally had stuff stored in the Scoutmaster's garage. Prior to that, it was spread among various homes, but that can be logistically challenging? Our incoming SM does not have space for the Troop's stuff and our CO does not offer space. We rent a spot for our Troop Trailer at a storage facility that is apparently reasonable. Maybe we would purchase another trailer just for storage. It seems storage facilities are expensive. Any suggestions? How does your Troop mange its stuff?? Thanks!
  2. Storage ideas

    Good suggestions. I think the largest item is a Klondike sled that might not be that precious to the troop, but I'm not sure. I've never seen any of the stuff. Maybe the district has some connections for storage, too.
  3. Storage ideas

    Unfortunately, we're not allowed to have a shed on CO property.
  4. If your troop has ever traveled to Disney world or similar attractions, I'd like to hear all about it, and how the boys liked it and managed the planning and fundraising. Thanks!
  5. Getting indoor parents enthused about outdoor program

    I think that people can and do change, but not always.
  6. Getting indoor parents enthused about outdoor program

    I don't have a complete answer, but I like it when families come to a cub scout family weekend hosted by Council. It is a weekend of easy, supported camping. Venturing camp staff will meet you at your group site and offer to help you if you need help setting up. Meals are all in the dining hall, but the kids run around outside all weekend and it's great. Our Pack weekend campouts are also good. It's a cabin camping weekend with dining hall food and outdoor activities planned by the den leaders, and a lot of advancement stuff related to the outdoors. Parents can come along, or if they don't come, they can have their kids in a supervised outdoor overnight activity.
  7. Sad sign of the times

    Got data? I am more concerned about traffic crashes, high adventure safety / basic safety, and sex abuse prevention because I expect the odds of all of those to be greater.
  8. Sad sign of the times

    Our Blue and Gold dinner is in the basement of a city building, and the upstairs neighbor is the police department. You gotta remember that this stuff is very rare though.
  9. Our Pack is currently : AOL - male, Webelos - male, Bear - female, Wolf - male Tiger - male Lions - our female CC leads the Lions Our CC is a female that is the daughter of a Montana forest ranger, very experienced in the outdoors Our COR is a non camper mom Our Assistant CM is a male military recruiter Tiger dad, he will be CM in the 2019 school year and could have been CM this year but was concerned about deployment. I'm filling in a year while he gets more familiar with Scouting. Den leader burnout is a thing. I honestly think it is a thankless and taken for granted job, and last year I made a point to give PayDay candy bars, service star pins (and flowers to the ladies who are mostly non-uniformed) to all the den leaders, committee members and volunteers from our Pack at a Pack meeting to show some appreciation. Hopefully little boosts like that keep people going a bit. I know I wished for more appreciation when I was a DL and so did my husband. I was lucky that the parents in my den were very good but sometimes parents can be unhelpful or unappreciative and that's rough on a den leader. Behavior and absenteeism can also wear down den leaders pretty quick.
  10. Hey, way to blame moms for BSA's numbers. 100% of my scouts crossed over, only 4 of 6 are still in scouts one year later. One left for sports, the other for disinterest. In some families the crossover seems to be about the parents -- and especially -- families and boys who choose sports over Scouting, and parents who think Boy Scouting is uncool for their children's social status.
  11. I am considering giving feedback on our recent Court of Honor. It was OK -- it was about two hours. It was about 1/2 hour to 45 minutes of Scout led, the rest was adult announcements, incuding a lengthy FOS presentation. OK, if we're going to have high standards, it sucked. I have been to a few COHs now and the pattern is the boys do their thing and then the adults go on and on informing the parents of every little thing -- calendar, upcoming fundraiser, camperships, FOS -- it really shouldn't have taken that long, but it did! The boys had to sit through all of it! I had to sit through all of it! Gah. No refreshments until after the whole show. I think we should make a parent newsletter and cut out all of those COH announcements. Do you think that' a fair suggestion? (I am secretary.) I don' t think that the boys at PLC would be willing to tell the grownups to cut their portion.
  12. Sad sign of the times

    It seems that the flag is half staff so much more in recent years than before. It is very sad.
  13. What's the most effective way to give feedback?

    @AVTech tell me more about the website. I will google it. We use Scoutlander and its OK, definitely not great.
  14. Has your troop ever gone to Disney World?

    Yes but isn't this where the Scoutmaster guides them? Isn't there something like -- well if you want to go to Disneyland -- how can you make it relevant to scouting, and are you willing to do extra fundraising?
  15. Has your troop ever gone to Disney World?

    Thanks for the discussion, this is good. My concern with my sons' troop is that the camping coordinator tells them up front -- don't say Disney World -- on your survey about where you want to go and what you want to do. And my thought is -- why not Disney? Sure, it is expensive, but let them dream big and figure out how to make it happen or decide for themselves to adjust their plans. I am considering rattling the adults about this at our next meeting... trying to push a little bit at a time.
  16. I will simply attest that folks like this exist, but also acknowledge that they are far outnumbered by good Scouters.
  17. Concerns with coed rules, leadership, liability

    When I first started, I did some reading about Boy Scout advancement, and all of the ins and outs. This whole idea of first class in a year (and it's out there as an expectation) is generally unreasonable and a bunch of garbage. But when I read online somewhere that Scouts should get first class in a year, I worried. Now I realize that that expectation is lame, and I am not as worried about my sons, a 13 year old, second year, second class and an 11 year old tenderfoot (He's been in the troop 11 months, what's wrong with being Tenderfoot at 11 months??). My oldest might make first class by his third year of summer camp or thereabouts. One of our more experienced adults suggests that boys get something checked off once a week, but my boys have not kept that pace, they get maybe one or two things a month -- I'm not exactly sure how much they accomplish in a month.
  18. I assumed the fundraising forms were to show a basic accounting for the income and expenses of the project. This is in my view, for accountability, so a Scout learns to show that donations are used properly and recorded properly. You don't want a Scout accidentally or intentionally pocketing cash donations -- so those should be recorded and noted in a way that shows that the Scout can handle donations responsibly and has a sense of integrity regarding financial management.
  19. Learning to drive efficiently.

    That's the truth!
  20. Learning to drive efficiently.

    I don't think I've met any mansplainers in Scouting that I remember. I have met a couple big-talkers, who make themselves look very important by giving very detailed descriptions of the work they do and how important it is, and whose way of doing thing is of course, the only possible right way to do anything. Two separate examples -- giving long talks at meetings repeatedly how they handle every detail of and every single moving part, telling all the stories of every detail of their recent accomplishments, and generally taking up most of the air during meetings. In another case, a Troop adult making a very big deal out of announcing in a group email that he has made the meeting room reservations. So impressive and special. Many other volunteers get their tasks done without such fanfare I occasionally run into self-aggrandizing adult volunteers (though they are rare, most adults are great) -- another female leader noticed the same thing, and she gave the nickname "Super Scout" for this kind of braggish behavior. I am not sure whether Super Scouts give grander performances in front of female Scouters or not. I have a developing theory that this personality/behavior type is closely associated with helicoptering.
  21. Learning to drive efficiently.

    Oooh, mansplaining! It exists. I think it's fairly rare though. https://www.bustle.com/articles/136319-6-subtle-forms-of-mansplaining-that-women-encounter-each-day Here's the first Google hit for mansplaining in the news. Short story -- man at dance club is creepy to women and they get him kicked out. To me this is mostly a case of natural consequences -- men who are socially inept don't get many dance partners. I don't think this story is about mansplaining at all. In old fashioned terms if a man is being too difficult, frisky, or rough with the dance club's female members, they have every right to kick him out. Now, they may end up with no male dance partners, but that's another story. http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/vancouver-swing-dancer-banned-from-club-after-mansplaining
  22. Concerns with coed rules, leadership, liability

    This was your training in California, right? I'm midwestern and I don't want to pick on your state too much, but California sometimes gets a reputation for being a little ... special.
  23. Concerns with coed rules, leadership, liability

    I haven't spoken with boys on this matter yet because --- we currently do not have any plans to add girl dens. I am curious to see what our CO advises. If they endorse girl dens, then I think we should explore how to organize things. But boys will have boy dens, and that is their space. I think we can minimize the impact to them while welcoming girls. Pack meetings? I'm not sure. It will be interesting to see what people think and feel about it. ETA: I am also not sure if any girls or girl volunteers are going to show up, so I don't think I need to get the boys' all worked up over something that may not affect them.
  24. Concerns with coed rules, leadership, liability

    It's going to be up to the adult troop leadership to help show boys with doubts that scouting is still great and there are great opportunities for them in Scouting.
  25. Concerns with coed rules, leadership, liability

    I've heard a lot of the phrase, "not my President" and this has a similar feeling with some of the reactions -- "not my BSA"??? As if either group has much of a choice in the result. I disagree on the interpretation of the message -- adding girl dens and troops does not equal telling the boys to get lost. Though there may be some rogue troops doing coed, that's not what has been shared from national. No.