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  1. On the one hand, this sounds like a local thing, if EVERYTHING is cornball. However, Cub Scout campfires with skits and songs are part of Scouting. There are a lot of lessons in getting up in front of people and attempting a skit, working together with other performers, and putting together an entertaining program. If you opt out of a campfire program, that's fine. We were just at camp last weekend and had a campfire with skits. The whole thing took maybe 15 minutes. 1. Wolves sang "Father Abraham" with some moves. This was good to warm up, since it was cold. 2.
  2. Yes, I think we are getting to that point. Our Committee Chair made a meeting schedule and outlines for them, and all it needs is for some of the Bear parents to now run the meetings and schedule. It is time for a hand off and let them struggle a bit and see who steps up. I know that some of the parents have been directly asked, but I am not sure that all of the parents have been directly asked.
  3. How physically fit should a Scouter be? How fit should a middle age or old Scouter be? I tend to care more about mentally awake than physically strong, but how do you define physically strong?
  4. I like, wore my Wood Badge hat at a Cub campout this past weekend and I think it might have been considered too showy!
  5. Oh you guys, I have to finish my WB tickets! Great discussion.
  6. Youtube videos may also be helpful to see how different packs load up.
  7. There are straps for attaching a bed roll. My boys stuff their sleeping bag into compression sacks and put them inside their packs. If you have an REI store near you, go there during a quiet time of day and ask a sales associate to run you through the newer backpacks' features.
  8. Hi Scouters, So we have a Bear den that currently has no leadership. Our Committee Chair is helping the Bear Den, and I am helping the Bear Den. But we need the Bear den to help themselves!! The committee chair has made a meeting schedule with topics I helped the Bear Den with activities on the Fall Camping trip and spent the weekend running the kids through activities (parents tagged along). They just don't have a leader. Some candidates, but no one has stepped up: 1. A guy who tried to be den leader but it just didn't work, he struggled. He now is working
  9. Hold the phone, let's confirm what Cub Scouts can do in boats. Is this no longer accurate? https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2016/05/05/cub-scouts-swimming-and-boating/
  10. Oh it's one thing to say you're going to file a lawsuit and another thing to actually do it. It might be a lot of hot air in the long run. I am sure there will be some lawsuits, but I think most folks are big talkers.
  11. Yes, but I feel with Scouters, time is of the essence. We don't know how long we'll have our volunteers for. It is good that we have position specific training required, and that is a pre-req for Wood Badge. You need to be trained in your position. If we make it too leveled, then you have potential issues with Scouters feeling like they outrank one another, and that is a bunch of drama we don't need. I'd grab a Scouter, find a training and have them go for it. Wood Badge is a commitment because it's 2 weekends. Some of my WB Patrol mates were Cub Scouters and they were delightful, and in S
  12. I think that if the Scouter has worked with male Scouters and it's not working, try a female Scouter. My Wood Badge course director was female, and I kind of idolized her, she was great, and so when she made a recommendation not to do XYZ, I listened to her with less resentment than I would if some guy I had no connection to and who was maybe not my best match to work with gave me a recommendation not to do XYZ. Does that make sense? The example was, I offered to go help with NYLT training, and she advised me to find a ticket item working with Cub (where I had more experience). So I
  13. Well, ya can't get a shot for norovirus (although, people are working on it). There will always be a risk of illnesses at camp.
  14. We need more trained leaders, not fewer, and so taking any new leader though Wood Badge is going to give them more experience than they had. We need new leaders, and we need new female leaders. Everybody starts somewhere! My WB experience was pretty clear in what we were doing. Just because some people don't do well in WB is not a condemnation of the whole program. I think my course from last summer was the newest course. Back to the specific female Scouter who is struggling with patrol-led, perhaps one of the other female Scouters could form a friendship and mentor her? Might n
  15. Summer camps can, of course, make any rules they want within the law and within BSA policies, but if it's too much of a hassle / extremely restrictive, then not as many people will go to summer camp. Any PR problems with the BSA coming across as either pro-vax or anti-vax in the media would be a disaster.
  16. That's OK. No one can force my family's medical decisions (and I have not shared what they are, other than me not getting a flu shot).
  17. Talk to your council and camp directors about the issue. They are the ones who will set and enforce any policies on the matter.
  18. I really don't want to debate vaccinations or start a debate on vaccinations when what we have in place seems to be working. Have there been any cases of Hep A or measles outbreaks spreading via Scout camps in the last decade? Do we have a problem or are we making up a problem so we can argue about it? Can a person vaccinated for measles get the measles? The answer should be, no. The people most at risk for measles are unvaccinated pregnant women and very young unvaccinated children. Can a person vaccinated for HepA get it? It's the same kind of situation isn't it? I
  19. It is the right of the citizen to decide whether to vaccinate their children or not. In Scouting, this is going to be the decision of the camp owners (presumably the council) so most of us are not involved in these decisions anyway. Also, I'm sure there are laws related to how these issues should and should not be handled. When we want to encourage participation in Scouting, it is not a great idea to take on a controversial issue such as vaxing or not vaxing. Why open the can of worms? Parents can and should decide their preferences. Why make it even harder for people to enjoy c
  20. Sorry about the misquote, I tried to find the original but was struggling. I don't think it's bad to seek out a hardworking spouse, but I think it's wrong to assume that the woman will be the cook, or that one spouse should pull more of the weight so the other can go play in the woods. There is a ton of sexism out there and it is something we need to be careful to avoid as Scouters. I also think it's wrong to push our ideologies on Scouts. The Scout Oath and Law are the most important lessons. Live those, associate with people with similar values and that's not a bad way to live your
  21. It appears that one of the posts about criteria for choosing women who are rich and good cooks and seeing a woman working in a field and saying "that'll do" have been removed. I don't see those posts on this thread anymore, but they were here, and that's what prompted my replies.
  22. Hopefully by summer this outbreak will have run its course. The council in your area will need to see what the laws say about the issue for non school organizations.
  23. What information has the mom been given about the patrol method. Has she taken BSA boy scout level training? Has she been coached? Invite her to join the adults patrol then hang around your adults patrol campfire and start up the relationship. The 6 y.o. can hang with the adult patrol too. Or, find some other female leaders into your adult patrol so you have better coverage next time. People don't just know the patrol method. They need information and coaching. Send her to Wood Badge! It's hard to listen to the complaints that a) parents don't do anything, and b) parents do too
  24. My boys use Osprey Ace backpacks and my oldest uses a Marmot Neverwinter sleeping bag. We got one of the backpacks on Ebay and the sleeping bag off Craigslist.
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