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  1. If I was to design a BSA program for 18-21 y/o. I would... 1. Recognize they are adults. 2. Provide opportunities for more advanced type adventures. 3. Focus on training these adult scouts how to implement the Scout Program as designed with Patrol Method and all the other things we often describe here. #3. is best done as "campfire discussions" or "talks while hiking" instead of "classroom in the outdoors". The training should be explicitly known but implicitly executed. In general the outcomes should be "outdoor fun with similar aged adults" and "training future Scou
  2. While I agree that the discuss & explain requirements are wayyyy overdone, IMO what should be included is a requirement that the scout conference with the counselor at least twice during the process. One of those conferences must occur prior to completion of "all the other requirements". This could be specific to the mB. Rationale: so the scout can benefit from the adult association and expertise of the counselor and use the expertise in at least some of the requirements. For example using hiking merit badge, a scout might contact the mB counselor after having done the shorter hikes,
  3. While I agree with the sentiment, using this as the path will ultimately just water it down to checkboxes too. IMO the number one problem is one&done requirements coupled with working on specific rank reqs simultaneously. This encourages lack of growth. Instead of the step-wise nature of requirements growing in complexity and skill, scouts do something once and "get it signed off in 3 different ranks". Yes, Scouters are not following the GTA, they are using the training as the requirement, and not testing. Advancement and the requirements are a process, not a single step and should e
  4. Pg 88, paragraph 3: "not under the collar"
  5. Rockwells illustrations also appeared in Edward Cave's books... "The Boy Scout's Hike Book" and "The Boy's Camp Book". My copies are from 1916 iirc.
  6. Johnsch322, I am sorry for what happened to you, for what some people did to you, for the pain and suffering you endured, for what you continue to endure, for all the feelings and emotions surrounding your ordeal and those which continue or are amplified by the bankruptcy process. None of us here mean you more pain. I am sorry if any of my words (or those of others) caused you more. I am sorry you are tired. I am sorry.
  7. Iirc, when a "troop becomes their own CO", it begins with the formation of an organization. They might call themselves "friends of troop xyz". That organization would file as a not-for profit with the state, which requires bylaws etc.. This organization sponsors the troop as the Chartering Organization. In reality the organization is just the troop committee itself, however there are legal requirements which must be met too maintain the not for profit status. See your state laws for info. Lastly, I am not sure that moving forward the BSA will "allow" these anymore. Certainly they have not bee
  8. I remember when neckerchiefs were large squares. This allowed them to be functional equipment too, not simply adornment. I recall doing first aid training and we used our neckerchiefs as slings, to make splints, etc...
  9. Oh how I wish my friend Tom was still alive. I met Tom almost twenty years ago. Long story so I won't digress with details. Tom was a ww2 vet, he was also an eagle scout. He told me about the 35 jamboree which never happened. He was supposed to attend. He did attend the next one. As an avid photographer (and motion pictures) he had filmed that next jamboree. iirc he also attended and filmed a world jamboree. Either the BSA or the LC had put out some publication for the 75th anniv of Scouting(or some other important milestone) and referenced the 35 jambo. He contacted them to remind that
  10. Propane? Or the smaller IsoButane/propane canisters? Butane is the worst as it gets cold due to its vaporization temp is 33 deg F. IsoButane is often used b/c vaporization temp is 11 deg F. Vaporization temp of propane is -44 deg F which is why it is often mixed with Iso for the "winter mixes" problem is the propane will be used first if the temp is below and all that is left in a 3/4 canister is the Iso. The reason propane is not used entirely in the small canisters is the pressure required. Additionally as the fuel is used the pressure drops which cools the fuel even more making it even
  11. Sleeping tip, put on a fresh pair of loose fitting wool socks. Even if they "feel dry" there will still be some moisture from the day. Loose fitting (not floppy) so as to not restrict blood flow. A fresh base layer for sleeping is also advised for the same moisture reason. Put clothes for next day (might be what was just taken off) in sleeping bag with you. They will be warm&dry for the next day. In ultra cold, my boots also (in a bag first) go in my sleeping bag.
  12. Upstate NY here. We camp in subzero regularly. Here are some layering tips. Baselayer: wool or synthetic, don't overdue this. The purpose is to wuck moisture from the body not be your insulation. Warm layer: fleece, down, wool. This is a thicker layer with the purpose of providing the majority of your insulation. This should stay dry. Top/over layer: Purpose is to keep elements away from insulation layer, whether it is wind, rain or snow (or all three). Some use a top layer to keep fire sparks off their insulation layer. Some add additional layers, but this is the basic ide
  13. I am not sure I agree with much of that. At least not in my area. Recruiting is done at the unit level, new units really aren;t necessary as there are so mnay already which can easily handle an increase in numbers of scouts. Camproees are done by district and IMO are good for the youngest scouits but after two or three the scouts want to do other stuff. Summer camp perhaps, but technicaly it is a stand-alone system; it can still operate without a council overseeing it. Volunteers at the unit level provide 99% or more of what makes scouting fun and memorable, NOT the professionals. Your area mi
  14. I agree that the degree of the act of service is to be defined by the scout and spiritual leader. I would also note that the requirement does indicate the act is to be "for someone in your family, neighborhood..." so I would encourage the scout to identify the specific person for whom the service was for (even if they do not know the person's name).
  15. I agree with not skipping an event. They could even ask the event supervisor to teach them some lashings during that time. At the very least encourage them to get the maximum points for "show scout spirit".
  16. Cool article! I consistently bring up the Scout Motto (on this forum and elsewhere) as the examplar of all Scouting Ideals; the article appears to agree with me. I would suggest that beyond society not understanding, is many Scouters do not either as advancement seems to be the focus, with service relegated to a rank or mB requirement.
  17. Patrol leaders ought to be doing gear checks before setting out. There is a rank requirement to present oneself to your PL properly dressed and packed... this should be standard operating procedure NOT a 1-and-done requirement. Prior to the 1st campout of the year(or even more often), the PL (or another scout) should be bringing in their pack to a patrol/troop meeting and demonstrate what and how to pack it. (This would fulfill a req for Communications mB). Scouting done right can fulfill requirements by just doing scouting right. Rank and mB requirements are not the program, but kn
  18. I am not sure looking at other large not for profits is the answer either. The problem with BSA top leadership AND with other not for profits is all of them have a singular focus which is fundraising. All of the organizations regardless of good ol boy clubs, or seekers of new blood suffer from this same affliction. Listening in they willfully acknowledge this is priority #1, they even justify it with statements such as, "we cannot serve the members, or advocate for cause 'xyx' without $". I think this is what happens when an org gets too large, it believes that its structure is necessary
  19. I would think any "buffer" would be included into any charter agreement. The agreement would run until Feb 28/29. If the agreement states an end at Dec 31st, then the "two month buffer" is Nov& Dec. I am not an attorney, but mine has repeatedly told me that "unless it is in the contract, it doesn't exist". I would think the Chartering Agreement should include what is in the Handbook, as the agreement is what gets signed by both parties.
  20. I would also think that without an active charter, one cannot even call it cub scouts or BSA or anything of the sort. Like calling your burger joint McDonalds without being an actual franchise. What is currently being done is solely a church youth group, and is 0% affiliated with Scouting(tm).
  21. I would trade wearing the sash for banning "workbooks" (except as a scout used tool for helping them organize).
  22. "should" being the key word. We must also remember that many Scouters are little more than "tenderfoots" themselves.
  23. Sadly in my area there is zero verification of competency/qualifications.
  24. Den leaders not being committed sounds like a major issue. I see a parallel here to a troop where the SPL is trying to do too much b/c the PLs aren't. If the cubs arent getting a good scouting experience due to uncommitted den leaders, I am not sure a pack meeting can really bridge the gap. I am sure it is better than nothing. The den meetings are the bread&butter of the cub program. But wow! If this is the reality I feel badly for the cubs and the cubmaster. I also agree that cubs is wayyy too long. However I have seen the age for cubs moving into a troop as too young in many
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