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  1. Chisos

    New Committee Chair for a New Troop

    CC here. A few things off the top of my head. I'll probably come up with more late 1. Make sure you and the SM have the same vision for the troop. If there's already a SM in place be sure to sort this out. 2. You've got to, for the most part, defer program decisions to your SM. You're there to make the program happen, not to deliver it. This is easy if you and the SM have the same vision (see #1). We have a "running joke" in the troop that I'm the boss until the troop meeting/campout starts, then "management hands it over to operations" and I take a back seat for the SM to run the show. 3. Probably the most difficult part is making sure all the grownups are on the same page. If you've got a SM and and ASM that thinks they're the SM it's a recipe for problems. Your job is to nip that in the bud. 4. Delegate, but do it selectively. Make sure you've identified someone's strengths and weaknesses before assigning them a job. A mismatch means something doesn't get done then you have to do it. 5. Don't read too much into the "org chart" that has the SM reporting to the CC. Yes, if the SM isn't working out it's your job to deal with it. But in practice you need to consider the SM-CC pair as equals with different responsibilities, both necessary to properly deliver the program. I've been in the gig for about three years and about have it down ( I think). I deal with the paperwork, organization, logistics, that kind of stuff, and leave the program deliver to the SM and ASMs. Works great for me, I can get all the "grownup stuff" lined up then go on a campout and just chill while the SM deals with the program aspects.
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    Insurance for Another Council Required

    That is a bit odd (I think). There are two types of BSA Insurance. Councils can (and most, if not all, do) purchase an accident/injury/health policy that covers injuries/illnesses that come up on a Scouting event. This is acquired at the Council level, though most have similar or identical polices (I think). The other insurance is BSA's general liability policy (since you said $1M, that sounds like what they are asking about). It is (I'm pretty sure) obtained by the National Council and covers all local councils. Your council service center should be able to provide a proof of insurance for either. Though it would seem odd of one council to ask another for the liability policy, since the same one covers all of them. The insurance most of us are talking about providing when camping out of council is the first one (the accident/medial policy). The general liability policy is more commonly requested when using non-Scout facilities for an event (say, a council-sponsored camporee is held on the grounds of a local community park, or something like that).
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    Insurance for Another Council Required

    I've see this for summer camp--we typically go out of council, and the camps we go to request proof of our home council's accident/injury/health policy. Most (I'd assume all, but I could be wrong) have those; they are secondary to a scout's personal health insurance, but do provide some coverage if personal health insurance falls short or if the scout/scouter is uninsured. We just get a proof-of-insurance document from the council office before we leave and turn it in when we check in at camp.
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    Crossover schedule

    We've had crossover in the Jan-Feb range the past few years. It gives scouts a few months to get used to the troop and then increases the odds they go to summer camp. If they go to summer camp the first year, they tend to stick around and stay with the program.
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    Can the Patrol Method Be Revived?

    i think this is a very important point. Perhaps we should more strongly encourage patrols to form around other things the scouts do...the "soccer patrol", the "band patrol", the "science club patrol", etc.
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    merit badge college patches

    I'm guessing you're talking about the participant patch from a college's "Merit Badge Day"? No rule says an adult can't wear a patch like that as a temporary patch, sewn or hanging from the button on the right pocket. My "rule of thumb" is you can wear a temp patch from any event you participated in. So, if the adult helped organize the event, or was a merit badge counselor at it, then sure. If they didn't participate in the event, I'd suggest not wearing it. But that's just my opinion, not an official "rule".
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    OA election nights

    I'd say it a "you make the call" as SM. The "objective" criteria is three nights or less. Does it "count" if he goes for two nights of a five-night camp? Food for thought for the group: Do you camp to be eligible for OA, or are you eligible for OA because you camp? Are the "rules" there to define only what "counts" or to exclude that which doesn't? Does a 4-night campout count in any way for OA eligibility?
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    OA election nights

    The scout had no other camping in the previous two years? On one hand...10 nights of short-term camping over two years really should not be a difficult goal to meet if a scout is active in the program. On the other hand...life happens...maybe there's other things going on that prevented the scout from getting the camping nights. Other meaningful activities, family issues, who knows. If he only needs two nights, is there another troop around that is camping soon he could go with? Or a cub scout pack having a campout he could help with? The point of this requirement is not just the number of nights; it's consistent participation in the program (i.e. more frequent camping).
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    OA election nights

    How long was this campout? If 3 nights or less, it counts as short-term camping. If not, he already has his long-term nights from NYLT--so if this is, say summer camp (6-7 nights) it would not count toward eligibility (as least, as I understand the rules). What I'm getting at is, I'm pretty sure you can't take a subset of the nights from a long-term camp and use them toward the 10 nights of short-term camping.
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    Uniforms for Committee Members

    Here's where I've ordered it from: https://www.thegoosescache.com/index.php/scoutshirthookandloop/
  11. You may want to also look into the Swim and Water Rescue course...it goes over the practical application of Safe Swim Defense as well as in-water rescue practice. Good course, geared toward adults who are supervising aquatic activities. And you are correct, SSD says "response personnel," not "lifeguards". So, that does not require a certified lifeguard, but someone with the knowledge/ability to rescue a swimmer who gets in trouble in the conditions of that particular swim. So, it could be an older scout or young adult who has Lifesaving MB if that was appropriate for the conditions.
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    Webelos AOL & Crossover

    Ours finish AoL whenever they get it done, but we do crossover as a group.
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    Worst things you seen taken to summer camp

    Full suit of armor. Chainmail and everything. It found use in a campfire skit, so there's at least that.
  14. You'll need to do IOLS before Wood Badge, because you need to first be "trained for your current position" before taking Wood Badge. As ans ASM, IOLS is part of that. Take Wood Badge when you want to do it, not because someone says you have to. "My personal opinion" is that a good time for WB is after you've been active as a leader for 3-5 years. And, you need to be comfortable camping--WB is not an outdoors skills course, but you're out in the woods for it. Folks who are new to Scouts and/or camping who jump right into WB sometimes don't have as good a time with it.
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    What color is your Class B ?

    We rotate colors year to year. Sometimes more "earth-tone" other times more "loud". Each has its place. The "earth-tone" fits in well with LNT principles, but I like the loud bright "Hunter Orange" if we're in the woods during hunting season.
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    knot-awards q

    Just pick one up at the scout shop and put it on your uniform. Doubt anyone will ask, and if they do, just tell them you earned it as a kid. Some scouts will probably ask you what it is, tell them, and encourage them to earn one themselves (it's the only knot youth can wear too!)
  17. I think the only real "rule" is that once they are registered with a troop, they can't go back and work on Cub Scout advancement. If you're talking about the scenario of "crossover was in February, can they still participate in our pack's Pinewood Derby in March"--that's up to the pack leadership to decide.
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    El Rancho Cima Death March patch

    Oh man! I don't have one, but I had one once and now it's lost! I seem to recall mine having red lettering. Cima was my favorite summer camp as a kid. (As an aside, has the sale of Cima gone though? I knew it was on the market. I had a "gentlemen's agreement" with a few of my old troop mates that if one of us won one of those huge Powerball jackpots we'd buy the place!)
  19. Now that Feb 1 has passed...I just want to make sure I've got this right, with respect to election eligibilty 1. You have to meet the rank requirement for the type of unit holding the election. For exmple, let's say Joe is Life in a Scouts BSA unit, but just joined a Ship and is Apprentice rank. Assuming he has the camping nights, he could be a candidate for OA election via the Troop, but not via the Ship. 2. Camping nights can be from Troops, Crews, or Ships, and combined. For example, Billy is Life rank in a Troop and Pathfinder rank in a Crew. He went to summer camp with the troop, but all his short term night are with the crew. He could be a candidate for OA election in either one. Right? Or did I miss something?
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    Pan de Campo (Dutch oven)

    Texan but never heard of Pan de Campo? Might have to take a corner off your "Texan Chip", haha!
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    Pan de Campo (Dutch oven)

    Here's the South Texas way: http://chuckwagonrecipes.blogspot.com/2011/11/king-ranch-pan-de-campo.html
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    Scouts BSA Girls’ Uniform +

    Are these changes online/available somewhere?
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    Philmont Winter Adventure Postmortem

    Great report, thanks for posting it! Anyone try the 72 oz steak at the Big Texan? Also-might be me, but the photo links don't seem to work.
  24. Probably the best thing to do would to be to check with your council to be sure. According to the guide to advancement the application can be submitted after the 18th birthday, but I would be sure to be able to document that all other requirements, including signatures and the personal statement, were completed prior to that date.
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    As we approach 1 Feb 19...

    I think this was a big part...now it's get 15 nights camping and 1st Class, and you're pretty much in. Elections changed from "should I really vote for this guy?" to "is there any reason I shouldn't vote for this guy?"...