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People Who Don't Know Beans
qwazse replied to RememberSchiff's topic in Wood Badge and adult leader training
It's nice to learn something new at someone else's expense. Because I don't know beans, thought I'd ask ... Anybody just cut the corner of the bag, fill will water and hang it or set in a small pot overnight? Just trying to think of ways to light-weight/leave-no-trace this activity. -
I'm imagining my boys collecting pampas grass to start weaving at this very moment!
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So what do you do when SM says a BOR isn't needed for Palm?
qwazse replied to 5yearscouter's topic in Advancement Resources
Palms are fun. When I was MC, BoR's for palms were the most fun, IMHO, because the boys were more knowledgeable about scouting and world events and less stressed. Back to the application http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/58-709_WB.pdf, which -- since it is not spelled out in the requirements -- is not what the scout needs to complete to have a BoR (but sure is convenient if he does): it's a lot like an MB application, the scout fills in some blanks, SM others, Comittee others, and council others. So what would I do with this? Have the scout and SM fill out the paperwork, ask the SM to back-date his signature to the point at which he felt the requirements were fulfilled. Have the board of review ASAP. Have fun with it! Ask the scout where he think that communication failed. Ask what he thinks you could do better next time. Ask how important it is for him to go for that 9th palm. The date of the BoR is the date of the BoR. Fill it in. Add a note that that the BoR had been delayed for two months and you consider the boy having passed as of the target date. (What else is that white space for?) If the scout is doing a great job and is indeed halfway to his next palm, schedule another BoR for three months after the date of the SM's signature. Get the application filled out. On it the scout can say he passed the board as of the intended date. By way of disclosure, he can put a footnote "see previous application regrading Troop __ committee's approval date." If council gives you push-back, say "Your problem, not ours. The boy's been providing continuous service full of scout spirit for the past six months. We think he met the intent of the requirements. You can expect another app three months hence on our stated schedule. Give national a call if you still think it's a problem." -
STEM: measure the circumferance of a sphere in paces, from the inside! Estimate how far you could travel by rotating in a sphere. Determine the relative efficiency of traveling by propelling oneself from in a sphere across various liquid and solid surfaces. Develop and implement experiments to test these results.
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So what do you do when SM says a BOR isn't needed for Palm?
qwazse replied to 5yearscouter's topic in Advancement Resources
An Eagle palm application? Where is that in the requirements? Did the scout ask for a BoR? Have the BoR ASAP after the scout requests it. How is this complicated? It's not mom's business. Ask the Eagle Scout what he thinks is fair. -
Choices, Chances, and Consequences: Muddy Lions
qwazse replied to SSScout's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Based on the things that actually show up in public health statistics, our suburbs are no less risky than the city with one exception ... gun violence. One of our local TV personalities was fired for editorializing this issue with racial overtones on social media. Lot's of back-and-forth on the fairness of her dismissal. -
The PLC Has Decided: Mixed Aged Patrols in May
qwazse replied to Eagle94-A1's topic in The Patrol Method
out of the mouths of babes! The positive: you've made "the adults" a synonym for "anything I don't like happening." The "sorting hat" approach is likely to catch a boy off guard, but so is anything a boy relegates to his buddies. The truth is any team that makes adjustments is an easy target for pessimists. -
Oh, that's funny! Your best bet, after reading the manual cover-to-cover ... and about your adventure specifically, is to call the captain of the base. The lighting during the summer is really good, so you should do well with fully charged batteries. Consider getting a back-up charging system. Solar works. The real challenge is keeping things dry and salt-free for a week.
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Eagle Scout Service Project Approvals Set Precedent?
qwazse replied to RememberSchiff's topic in Advancement Resources
I love helping at projects, so I don't mind being the adult on record if needed. But, the projects we dealt with growing up were loosely supervised at best. For example SM introduced me to the COR who gave me the catalogue to order specialty parts from. I gave him he order with my address as the recipient. Then it was up to me and my buddies to get the work done. Which we did without any adult having to be pulled away from their businesses (or whatever the retired guys were doing to occupy their time). It was basically a patrol activity. I didn't pick that up from strangers. The other projects I worked on had the same limited supervision, unless the beneficiary requested otherwise. -
Eagle Scout Service Project Approvals Set Precedent?
qwazse replied to RememberSchiff's topic in Advancement Resources
So, what if the project is framed asa) an independent patrol activity? b) a religious activity (e.g.restoring a shrine) where the unit leaders' presence might be a desecration? Thoughts? -
Eagle Scout Service Project Approvals Set Precedent?
qwazse replied to RememberSchiff's topic in Advancement Resources
So, in the next ten months? -
I didn't do any pranking of my own. So, I decided to nudge Stosh's along for the remainder of the day! It was a tough call: "build" or "bust" on it? Figured I'd leave one small crumb in case someone more responsible than the lot of us was in a funk of excessive soul-searching.
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At the HQ, where you are provisioned and assigned your guide, there will be dozens of other units coming and going. So there's a chance to make an exchange with someone from other parts.If your stopping along the way, say Miami Beach, learning a little Spanish goes a long way. I know of one crew who kayaked to the island. Once there, all cell phones and watches (except one) were stored in a dry bag. From that point forward, everyone operated on "Seabase time." If you were tired, it was nap time. Hungry? Supper time. Curious? exploring time. The better your boys are at teamwork and making decisions together quickly, the more fun they'll have.
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Common kids, the sun'll come out tomorrow?
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UUA renews relationship with Boy Scouts of America
qwazse replied to WAKWIB's topic in Issues & Politics
Well, if the grand arc of Church history is any indication, whatever date you choose will be imbued with Christian meaning. As far as getting paid goes, if there's money to be made, but an unwilling work force, there will be overtime to pay. I'm certainly not grudging Joe athiest or Jane gotta-get-away-from-the-in-laws Christian for taking advantage of that. I consider it part of our secular Christmas dividend. -
Trying to think of an OMG emoticon that wouldn't offend. ... NVM. I&P topics usually boil down to someone wants things one way, can't understand why they aren't that way, so someone tries to explain with limited success, some folks get defensive. Learning that a country is bigger than whatever bubble we normally float in isn't the worst lesson, but it can be a hard one. I think you all haven't used the tools at your disposal. Even if not a moderator. I've -1'd posts that undermined what I'd expect from civil discourse. I've also personally messaged some of you who persisted in doing something inappropriate for a forum. The behavior changed. End of discussion. I've stopped replying to a topic - without fanfare - because I realized I was sucking up all of the air in the room. At times I'd apologize for a harsh generalization. At other times, I'd reply publicly about why I did not think a statement of mine deserved some cliche`d label that a forum member gave it. We don't have to throw a public gauntlet down at every offense. We can arrange a private one-on-one conversation. "Leave your gift at the alter and reconcile with your brother." We can ask our spouse/significant other to review what we wrote, and apologize publicly if he/she says we went too far.
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Cost for Jamboree - is this reasonable?
qwazse replied to dedkad's topic in Going to the next Jamboree?
Heritage Reservation was at capacity with 5000 for Mountainfest weekend. I'd hate to see it pressed upon for an entire week with 6-10 times the numbers. For those flying in, it might as well be Beckly. -
Here's one more thing, it is okay for scouts to see adults respectfully disagree. Sometimes there is a little push-pull between SMs and CCs. And, between guys in general, we can disagree hotly but in a pinch we have each other's back and the coffee's on first thing in the morning. So take all the drama with a grain of salt. Lost slides? Teach the friendship knot. Good enough until the boy can get a hold of some chord and tie a turkshead. As far as scout spirit, I'm usually not asking a boy about anything that transpires during a meeting. But are they a scout when nobody's watching and the uniform's off? That question has to be asked carefully, because boys are their worst critics and tears can flow.
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Explain why this profession might interest you
qwazse replied to chrisking0997's topic in Advancement Resources
Once again, we often flood the pool with too many amateurs teaching the badge. Have the boy talk to his gym instructor, athletic trainer, or sports medicine doctor/nurse/physical therapist or aid, or sports store owner and come back with a better answer. @@chrisking0997, if you are any of the above, pardon the presumption. But, you get the idea. Part of the MBC role is to share your passion with the scouts and give them go-to people who can help you with that. -
Hear's the deal. Boys are smart. If they feel people are manipulating them via advancement, they'll stop advancing. If on the other hand, they actually believe they can be better scouts by wearing their uniform, they will. So have more carrots. Greet scouts. In a friendly manner ask them what happened to their pants/shirt/necker. This is especially true of boards of review. Ask the boy how he can fix it. (Maybe that's what your CC meant by sitting in on BoR's.) Any SM/ASM who shows up out of uniform, when he/she greets scouts apologize to the boys for whatever is missing. If only one or two scouts are at an activity in uniform, award them a patch from your bloated collection. Scouts in uniform are first in line for snacks. Only scouts in uniform may be color guard. We've had SPL's borrow a scout shirt from he closet to lead a ceremony. The SPL should hold uniform inspection routinely. Patrols with the highest average score get a totem on their flag (e.g. an arrowhead with binoculars could be a Look Sharp award.) Eventually boys will determine their own sticks.
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UUA renews relationship with Boy Scouts of America
qwazse replied to WAKWIB's topic in Issues & Politics
Attempted to be proselytizerd ... No different than any other expense of precious resources on the spiritually indolent. -
UUA renews relationship with Boy Scouts of America
qwazse replied to WAKWIB's topic in Issues & Politics
I'm afraid that will continue to be hotly contested from national. If you want an organization that will let boys be athiests, consider http://www.traillifeusa.com/generalfaqs Are non-Christian youth permitted to join a Trail Life USA Troop? Our Member policy allows for boys of any faith (or no faith at all) to participate in the program of Trail Life USA. Local Charter Organizations satisfy the specific ministry goals of their church or organization. In some cases, that may be as an outreach ministry to boys in the community. In other cases, that may be as an in-reach ministry specifically to minister to the families or members of the local church or organization. Therefore, individual Charter Organizations may have more specific membership requirements that limit Troop membership to boys of a certain faith or membership in a certain organization. -
ussscouts has a politics free policy. As do other intensely moderated sites. This forum could follow suit. But then maybe the fact that it doesn't is what makes it special? Honestly, I've used what I've read from you all to help polarized boys empathize with their diametric opposites. If a topic devolves to cussing, I stop replying. Otherwise, I try to tie my fingers before anyone really gets put out. Price of admission, I figure. Besides, it's more fun to irritate by being nice ... Guess I'd rather grow the thick skin than stop hiking rough terrain.
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Explain why this profession might interest you
qwazse replied to chrisking0997's topic in Advancement Resources
My boys may owe you guys. On my walk to the coffee shop (btw @@Stosh $1.80 for espresso the taste of which is still lingering at lunch), I thought that part of this problem is troops often grab anyone with a pulse to be counselors for required badges. No disrespect to Suzy homemaker, but the best counselors are often the folks who have the topic as a profession. Then I thought of the scouts who I've seen at this shop. So I asked the owner if he'd be willing to sign on as an MBC. He said he'd be glad to. I warned him about the paperwork to get started. Having been a lawyer, he wasn't phased. He does the same for his employees anyway. Moreover, the notion of having boys food-safety trained before they started the job was very appealing. If they could come to the shop, he'd gladly counsel the badge. -
Explain why this profession might interest you
qwazse replied to chrisking0997's topic in Advancement Resources
@@Stosh, just because you can understand where a kid's coming from, that's no reason to let him stay there. Here's a reason nobody mentioned: world travel. I know a kid who wound up working at a popular restaurant in Dubai. Think laterally ... Being the deciding factor in war. Infantrymen move on their stomach. Understanding cultures distant in space and time. Being part of history by planning months (now years) of meals for astronauts. Operating a delicatessen or winery. Getting out of the grind of estate law and creating a welcome place for folks in the community to grab a coffee before the morning rush. Which reminds me, gotta go meet my barista.
