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  1. So I have been given a lot of awards in scouting. More knots than allowed on a uniform, never thought much about them and kinda blew them off. Well tonight at our Bridge of Honor, I was awarded the Unit Leader Award of Merit. The thing that makes this stand out to me is that I was nominated and recommended for the award by my scouts. That makes it special to me.
    9 points
  2. I was a candidate for the TCC. When I interviewed with the US Trustee & Co., I told them I did not wish for the demise of the Scouts. He said, "That sentiment is pretty much universal among all the men we are interviewing." I thought you might find that interesting, though clients seldom drive cases of this type, which loops back to the motives and goals of certain attorneys.
    6 points
  3. I'm giving up downvotes for Lent. It's going to be rough!
    5 points
  4. No medical professional or researcher would claim that ANY drug or vaccine is "100% SAFE". All risk is relative. We have risk factors and comorbidities. We have personally seen at least 5 friends and/or loved ones die from COVID. My wife is a cancer survivor. We have 2 close family members who are currently fighting stage 4 cancer. My son and his wife are "COVID deniers" and have been banned from several stores for refusing to wear masks. Our grandson was moved to a private school that did not enforce precautions, then had to close for 2 weeks when ALL of the teachers had positive tests.
    5 points
  5. So few parents ever camp with us, that I am thrilled when they come along. I gently ease the parent into our culture. I have far too many fish to fry to worry about a parent and child who want to camp together. It's a phase that I've never seen last long enough to be disruptive. If I can get my patrols to camp 300' from each other and me, the parent thing will never be a problem. My coffee is just that good. Regarding @karunamom3's council recommendation, I am very skeptical about how this might curb airborne pathogen transmission. Cars and cabins have the manifest risk. By virtu
    4 points
  6. Seems kind of stupid to me to not allow a parent to tent with a scout if you want scouting to survive in the pandemic era. Then you are requiring a scouting family to buy two tents and possibly twice the gear just to accommodate a bizarre requirement. On the other hand, being completely liability driven, I do not advocate flaunting BSA policy. I do think BSA needs to issue some interim temporary policy modifications to make outings easier for scouts during the pandemic. It is also not safe to have scouts tenting alone in some situations. Far better to have a tent buddy, especially in bear terr
    4 points
  7. Ooh. That's what we need. A barista merit badge. Forget the cooking merit badge. Requirement #1. Make your scout leaders a perfect cup of coffee first thing in the morning. ☕
    4 points
  8. Yes. The safety of my swimmers is too important for me to trust to anyone whose knowledge and skills we have not personally verified. Even if the scout had already earned his lifesaving merit badge, he would still need to demonstrate (to us) his competence as a lifeguard.
    4 points
  9. The really smart or savvy scouts double-dip. Rank Fitness can be combined with Personal Fitness Merit Badge (with some minor modifications). Rank Swim can be combined with Swimming MB Rank First Aid can be combine with First Aid MB. Now, some purists will squeal about this of course... Etc.
    4 points
  10. Time for a rant. This has nothing to do with how people are arguing about this topic. That part is fine. However, ... Between this thread and the eagle at 12 thread, is there any wonder that scouting does not interest youth? It looks like this program is nothing without recognition. When my son was in soccer the entire recognition for everyone, youth and adults, was at the end of the season, at a barbecue. It lasted maybe 15 minutes. The coach talked about each kid. Some parent thanked all the adults that helped out. Then dessert was served. Done. The program, the reason why kids wanted t
    4 points
  11. We had a WB beading ceremony (??) that was done at a troop meeting. Ran, I kid you not, 45 minutes. I too felt like we were hostages. Most leaders input was "and that's why I will never go to WB"
    4 points
  12. https://www.ocregister.com/2021/02/03/fountain-valley-teen-earns-top-awards-in-both-girl-scouts-and-boy-scouts/amp/
    4 points
  13. For me it's not so much what BSA should have done, it's that it even happened in the first place. BSA, like the Catholic Church, staked out a higher moral ground where participants expected everyone to be held to exemplary standards. Other youth organizations, like sports or 4-H, exhorted you to enroll your kids but they didn't bleat about religious values or character or morality. Ironically, that lack of moralizing may have protected them to some degree. The church and BSA did and then failed miserably in recognizing how predators would use that to cloak their actions. We were in the kid and
    3 points
  14. Not just teens in general, abuse victims blame themselves, or do not want to get the abuser in trouble, or think if they report they'll get in trouble, or that it will result in some other bad thing happening. This is something that BSA YPT gets through fairly well and the Catholic youth protection (Virtus is the main one for most dioceses) pound this into people's heads. Young people need to know there are people they can go to in order to report. It may not always be mom/dad/parent/guardian. They need to know they can come to an adult who will help them and that won't turn them away.
    3 points
  15. You are applying today's rightful indignation to things that happened a long time ago. An era where the kids were doubted and blamed for accusing nice upstanding people. An era where people commonly drove drunk. Where men were understood to have certain rights over their wives. Where banks commonly denied based on race or religion. Where many things are viewed today as ghastly that back then were just things you deal with. Today is a different time. Period. Looking back, it's hard to know when police were called and not. In the pseudo case provided, the parent could have c
    3 points
  16. This simply isn't true. First and foremost libel has to involve a false statement. If Johnny's father comes to a BSA official and says Scoutmaster X molested Johnny, BSA official can call the police and say, Johnny's father said Scoutmaster X molested Johnny. There can be no falsity in that statement. The BSA CANNOT be held liable for any defamation even if Johnny and/or his father were lying. Outside of reporting to the police, BSA never would have to publicly accuse anyone of anything. If they had any belief that a person might be a molester they simply had to remove him from the
    3 points
  17. I agree 100% with your judgement that BSA's response was above-average and generally legally correct, by the standards of the time. But please remember that the bankruptcy proceeding is not "the" lawsuit. At the end of 2019, the BSA was the defendant in dozens of lawsuits (mostly abuse, a handful of wrongful-death, and the GSUSA trademark suit). The Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceeding allows the debtor (BSA) to invite everyone who has a claim to come forward and be treated equally. It's sort of a reverse lawsuit, the debtor comes to the court and says "I know (or at least guess) that I owe all
    3 points
  18. You are responding without reading. The war is not against the victims or the attorneys. The fight is countering the non stop onslaught of negative publicity with proactive positive messages, of which BSA has many. Let's take the Catholic Church. Lawsuits have never shut Pope Francis up.
    3 points
  19. Legal and PR teams are almost always in conflict. Good leadership knows how to weigh the advice of both because it has a bigger job than staying out of court. It has to also ensure the long term success of the organization and that generally includes retaining as much public good will and trust as it can, especially in the face of a crisis. You can't always do that by listening to lawyers because sometimes good legal advice is bad business advice. The ongoing damage to BSA's reputation is almost fatal and needs to countered. The abuse scandal has paralyzed the organization in a way that it can
    3 points
  20. How about simply 'someone who exemplifies "cheerful service."' Full stop. Why does Vigil always go to people that spend a lot of time in the OA? Some people are too busy helping out to add yet one more activity, OA, to their plate.
    3 points
  21. War looks like leadership. And that's how you win. You mention Mosby. Perfect. Where is our leader? BSA named its reorg ruminations The Churchill Project. What leadership skill did its namesake wield better than any other WWII leader? Words. He communicated, he inspired, he motivated. Where is Mosby? Where is his appeal to the troops to fight the good fight? It has nothing to do with waging war on victims. It's simply about reminding everyone what is good about scouting and why we need to do our best at the unit level to keep it going. On this he has been virtually silent.
    3 points
  22. It had nothing to do with trying to convince you, a den mother, a Scout or anyone else. I don't believe that's what I've been doing or attempted to do here. I wanted to offer a respectful and thoughtful response from my experience. You raised great points in both posts and I wanted to ponder and engage the various elements. I believe you meant it to read well on my end, but I can't say it did. Rather harsh, but I am the outlier here and, at times, that is clear. I was aware of when I started to post and take it for what it is. Happy to take my ball and jax and leave the playground.
    3 points
  23. I respectfully disagree with this. 1. There has been plenty of fanfare about boys reaching Eagle in the past 110 years. That is what has made it one of the single-most recognizable and lauded youth accomplishments, and one that has carried into adulthood for 110 years. 2. Because girls have not had that opportunity for over a century, this occasion is historic, noteworthy, and therefore newsworthy. 3. A struggling organization like the BSA, both in finances and in public perception, would be somewhere between naive and negligent not to take advantage of this as a PR blast.
    3 points
  24. I agree with your disruption point and your example is meaningful. My issue is putting the rule in Guide To Safe Scouting, Abuse, etc. Are we saying the scout is not safe with the mom? Are we saying parents should not be allowed to take their kids out of camp because it endangers the troop? ... "barring medical exceptions" Are we saying a non-emergency medical condition allows ignoring Guide To Safe Scouting rules ? Radically, I'm going to assert ... Scouts are safe with their mom and dad. Troops have zero authority to override parents in such decisions on the basis of "safet
    3 points
  25. The frequency with which this problem crops up across a system as widespread as the BSA is in the US makes me think it must be rooted in a systemic failure somewhere. Either because the established processing requirements are inexplicably complicated or because the BSA has failed to grasp the fundamental truth that basic competence in recordkeeping is an important reflection on an organization.
    3 points
  26. I gave you an upvote for using an appropriate expression on the first Friday of Lent.
    3 points
  27. Having a buddy in one's tent does not make one safer from bears. In general the best bear mitigation strategy is to keep a clean camp, cook and eat far away (and downwind) from the sleeping area, and store food appropriately.
    3 points
  28. I cringe at this. I remember reading it before and thinking: Yeah right. It's G2SS and in a section on "Youth Protection and Barriers to Abuse FAQs". Scouts can't share a tent with their parent because we are trying to protect them from their parent or sibling ? The trouble is someone inserted a program goal as a YP rule. Plus, YP should not include things that units can't really enforce. The G2SS also says we are mandatory reporters. And if a serious policy violation is made, we need to report it. Who wants to be the scouter calling the SE about a YP violation because a scout
    3 points
  29. That is the reality today. If you don't figure in all your hidden overhead costs when setting your rate, fee, or bid, you will not earn a profit and survive. A hundred years ago it was just a guy and his hammer and stuff you could cut down or dig out of a field. Now it's insurance, workers comp, licensing fees, materials, vehicles, etc. etc.
    3 points
  30. Yes. As a former Red Cross WSI and MBC for Swimming, Canoeing, Lifesaving, and BSA Lifeguard Counselor. I have seen Scouts who present for BSA Lifeguard class and can't demonstrate a proper stroke for the qualifying swim. Where they got their Swimming and Lifesaving MB, I have no idea. When I taught it, the qualifying swim was on Day 1. If they couldn't do that, I would advise them to go register for some other activity. As the others pointed out, LIfesaving is too important a skill to rubber stamp it.
    3 points
  31. Youth who are only ever cub scouts are never in the denominator. The denominator is always only youth who have been registered in a program where they could earn Eagle. There’s always a “better number”. My preferred calculation is the total number of scouts who ever earned Eagle, divided by the total number of youth who were Boy Scouts, Varsity Scouts, Male Venturers, or (now) Scouts BSA. I did that once a while back and came up with a figure of about 3%. My main knock on troops with an “Eagle or Bust” mentality is that it is a discouragement to boys who only want to be 1st Class
    3 points
  32. There are also those of us who have been infected already, and are waiting to see what observation and studies say about extended immunity, and who want to see if any longer-term effects start to show up. At this point, having already had Covid, I have no intention of getting the vaccine. That may change; it may not. For full disclosure, I have a relative who was vaccine-injured. This doesn't mean my family and I are anti-vaxx, or deniers, or any other delightful names we've been called. My children are all vaccinated with the exception of not having been given the rotavirus or HPV va
    3 points
  33. Rearing a child so that he or she has no concept of consequences for conduct does no one a favor.
    3 points
  34. Qualifying statements: I don't believe youth are good or bad. There are behaviors, maturity, distractions and other issues that are incompatible with scouting. Response: Leaders need to address bad behavior. It's infectious. It drives scouts away and can earn your troop a bad reputation. Leaders need to ask scouts to move on if the scout can't behave within the boundaries of scouting. Packs or troops. Depending the behavior, troops that keep such scouts are accepting a lot of risk and taking on responsibility often beyond their experience. My concern is safety and
    3 points
  35. Not a board of review, but somewhat related. When I was Scoutmaster, I had one boy that I didn't pass off on the Scout Spirit requirement for Life rank because of attitude and actions from the scout. I explained to the scout why I was doing it and what I expected to have him change to get signed off. He understood and expressed interest in changing his behavior. An hour later I received an angry email from his parents about how what I did was unacceptable and that I needed to pass him off. I refused and let him know I am happy to meet with him and the committee chair. He showed up w
    3 points
  36. Probably the best & only way to really consider this story. I was 15yo when I went for my EBOR and faced a crotchety old scouter who thought you should be at least 16 and preferably 17 to earn Eagle. He quizzed me on a number of knots & lashings until he relented. I think I'm becoming that crotchety old scouter.
    3 points
  37. I don't think there is anything really wrong with what this kid did. He's obviously committed and he met all the requirements. My issue is that this kind of thing -- zipping through to Eagle and extreme badge-ism -- is routinely held up as the ideal when it's not.
    3 points
  38. I disagree. A unit is a community- youth who participate in the program, adults who volunteer to make it happen. Taking a few minutes periodically to appropriately recognize the hard work and accomplishments of the adults sets a very good example for the youth. It sets a good example for other adult volunteers. It shows adults and Scouts in the room that the leaders in that unit are investing in their skills as a leader. It provides an example for Scouts to mimic as they themselves present awards. Finally, it's nice for a parent to get some recognition in front of their child. To
    3 points
  39. My basic formula: Subtract month's Roundtable and replace with Recognition Event Add food and drink. Add host to welcome and introduce new Scouters to others. Minimize speeches. Maximize socializing and networking.
    3 points
  40. (pre-covid) I already donate a dozen plus hours a week. Every time I sign up for an "away from home" activity, it affects my marriage and family. So when I can, I prioritize wife and kids and look for places I can save time. A formal sit-down dinner is the exact place I can save time. I've been involved in the district for a really long time. I avoid the formal sit down dinners. I avoid Woodbadge Beadings (10 to 30 min). Times have changed. This is not the Ward and June Cleaver era. People are stressed and won't sit thru pomp. For awhile, we ran it as an outdoor buffet picn
    3 points
  41. No, AIS is not a member of the TCC. The TCC is composed of nine abuse victims who have volunteered for that extra work (literally "volunteered", they aren't paid and don't expect to have their own claims treated any more favorably than anyone else's), and has a fiduciary duty to work for the benefit of all abuse claimants. AIS is Koznoff, Van Arsedale and one other lawyer. There's also the "Coalition of Abused Scouts for Justice", the "CASJ" or "Coalition" for short. The CASJ seems to have started as the AIS members plus some other lawyers, but back in September, when one of the insurer
    3 points
  42. The 20 Dec 1931 issue of the Houston Chronicle, describes the award ceremony of the first two men in Houston to receive the Silver Beaver Award. The article contains this sentence: "Each was presented with a silver beaver, emblematic of perseverance." The article has a photo of the parchment certificate. As an aside, my search also revealed that Ferris Bueller's father was a Silver Beaver recipient. At the 1 hr, 8 minute mark of the movie, he claims that there is a framed Silver Beaver certificate in the hallway.
    3 points
  43. Scouting has been nominated for a Nobel Peace prize. I just googled scouting nobel prize and found a lot. Here's one. //www.scout.org/fr/scouts-nobel-peace-prize-2021-nomination "The World Organization of the Scout Movement (WOSM), together with the World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts (WAGGGS), have been nominated for the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize, recognising the outstanding contributions of Scouting and Guiding that have empowered hundreds of millions of young people to create a lasting culture of peace in their communities for more than a century.
    3 points
  44. I am not a doctor but I am an engineer and used to dealing with tests and data analysis. I took the flu vaccine every year when I was on active duty because I was required to. I probably caught the flu every 2 or 3 years despite that. When I retired over 10 years ago, I stopped taking the flu vaccine because I'd read how it's created and was appalled -- haven't had the flu since. My clinic asks me about it every year and every year I tell them I'd be happy to take it if someone has a study showing it's more effective now. I intend to take the CV-19 vaccine when offered but there are v
    2 points
  45. I think you keep misinterpreting what I am saying. I am not advocating putting Mosby on CNN. But plenty of CEOs are able to still get messages across in a controlled setting. I've been in corporations during crises and you can put your CEO in front of an internal lens -- whether that's a camera or in print -- to communicate messages to the troops. Invariably, these messages will be leaked to mainstream press. No hostile questions. It's really not that hard.
    2 points
  46. North Carolina: Scouts honor the service and sacrifice of a 14 year James Gillies —“a beardless, unarmed youth”—was the bugler for American General "Light Horse" Harry Lee. During an impromptu reconnaissance mission, Gillies was killed by the British Army near the current-day Oak Ridge/Summerfield town limits on Oak Ridge Road. Interesting video interview with scouts including scout bugler: https://myfox8.com/news/buckley-report-the-story-of-a-bugler-boy/ More at source link: https://www.summerfieldnc.gov/index.asp?SEC=C3FB91F1-C656-4336-B855-D9948EAC060A&DE=EE3B
    2 points
  47. I don't know. I think the average suburban kid in a stable home is well protected from physical harm, but psychologically I think society dangles them over cliffs. In many ways, kids are not allowed to be kids any more. Mentally they are pushed into adult situations and adult stress loads. The attraction for this kind of literature and media may be that it presents kids with characters who are able to survive in chaotic, dangerous worlds where adults are no longer in control or can't be trusted. Whatever it is, there is definitely something going on though and it's disturbing.
    2 points
  48. I was aghast when Hunger Games made it onto our district's 4th grade summer reading list. We're a long way from Lassie.
    2 points
  49. So do I. I am very old-school Catholic. I think everyone is bad. There are two kinds of people. 1) Bad people who recognize the evil in human nature and strive to overcome it. 2) Bad people who don't recognize the evil in human nature and enthusiastically embrace it.
    2 points
  50. @Melgamatic, thanks for taking on a thankless job. More importantly, thanks for explaining "real world" implications for the changes. It's very helpful to have an explanation when scouters ask. I personally believe that a scout's proposal/report should sit apart from the workbook. (I've promoted plain-old-ASCII in other threads.) But, as long as we're in a world where form exceeds substance, adding pages will do.
    2 points
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