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  1. 2 points
    There ya go. It is my opinion that THAT is the reason most DEs become DEs. They originally want to be SCOUT Scouters, to help give the (youth) Scouts opportunities, to be examples and role models for the vast number of volunteer Scouters. When they discover they are judged on things other than that, and being paid less than they are (we hope) worth, they move on. We have a "real DE" in our District and we treat him as such. He answers emails, phone calls, visits our Roundtable, camporees and even IOLS sometimes. AND he is about to be married !
  2. 1 point
    Key word; "reasonably". That too often is the disconnect it seems. I often wonder at what point the memory of the reality of the lower levels disappears for those that move up. Not just in Scouting, but in my experience in retail management.
  3. 1 point
    So, I have to wonder why we feed into this as volunteers. I've made it a personal rule to never call our DE at night or on the weekends. I would almost never ask a DE to come to a unit meeting in the evening. I'm fine with the DE coming to a camporee or other event for a portion of the weekend. No way would I ask a DE to camp at camporee. I would never ask a DE to pick something up at the council store or make me photocopies at the office. I ask my DE for advice on how to get something done, I don't ask them to do it for me. A good DE is an amazing resource and they do a lot to help us. It's of almost no consequence to me to do these things myself.
  4. 1 point
    SO.VERY.TRUE. A fellow pro told me the divorce rate is extremely high. One coworker was on wife #3 when I started, and was in the process of going through a divorce with her when I left. Another DE's wife stayed with him long enough to complete law school, and then filed for divorce as soon as she passed the bar. My own wife knew what she was getting into as we dated while I was a DE. She didn't realize the full physical, mental, and emotional stress the job causes until we got married and she moved in with me. After 6 weeks of marriage, she gave me an ultimatum: her or the job. And she could not understand why I continued to volunteer after I left, until our oldest got involved. She can handle the unit level, but anything on the district and council, forget about it.
  5. 1 point
    And that may be the end of your honeymoon, even as he goes on one. Unless the spouse is already aware of the awful schedule and constant pressure, and they can keep the family income ahead of the game, you will lose him. I have seen many divorces over the years of struggling and really potentially excellent DE's. It destroys their marriages and often destroys their love of Scouting that led them there in the first place. Some do come back, and those areas are fortunate to get them as volunteers; but many simply disappear and even if they have kids eligible, do not have them in the program. Sad, but far too true. Or so it seems to me.
  6. 1 point
    Director of Field Service. In some councils with more than 1 Field Director, they use a DFS. He is the #2 person in a council after the Scout Exec.
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    HOW COULD I FORGET ABOUT THE DOCUMENTATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I worked at one camp that was nearly shut down due to GI bug. Long story short, we had the council physician and others come in do a second health inspection. They could not find anything, and then checked the medical logs. They detesrmined that one troop had some sick that infected everyone at the camp. I found out 6 months later at Christmas it was my cousin's son who was sick and infected everyone. She sent him to camp anyway because they paid for it and they were not going to lose any money, 😠
  8. 1 point
    Totally agree with pushing water at camp. We had one camp in our council that started treating every minor headache, stomache, etc with sips of water and a short period of rest out of the sun. They found that most of the cub scouts were ready for action after 10 to 15 minutes with no further problems or medication needed. Some scouts just push themselves to play hard and need an adult to give them a short break. At our camp we always used the BSA first aid log book to document ALL cases brought to the first aider... No matter how small the issue was! Even a scratch was documented by the camp first aider. The BSA log book had blanks for date time reason for injury and treatment given and signature of who treated the camper. Our staff was also trained to watch out for leaders who were treating any campers with a band aid or medicine on their own. The scout had to go to the first aid building and the "injury" had to be documented in the log book! The parent then usual got an earful from the first aider about the proper procedures. The log book also helped us find any patterns to injuries in specific areas of camp. Our first aider and camp director would sign each book at the end of the week after they reviewed the entries and together discussed any changes to the program that could be made to lessen the number of injuries of campers. We included notes in the log book about any changes made to our program due to injuries. The council kept each log book on file for 20+ years in case of any questions arose from treatments. This seems like over doing the process but much better to document now, then try to remember what happened days, weeks, months or years ago. PS...since we were a large day camp operation(400+ scouts a week/8 weeks per year) we even had a separate log book for medications that parents sent with campers to take on site. Hope that helps!
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  10. 1 point
    About ten years ago, I once witnessed a DE being asked by a new Cub leader if he (the DE) would come to their meeting and speak to the new parents. His response was (quote) "I don't do that. I have people who do that. " He meant the District Commissioner(s), of which I was at the time one. The Cub leader was angry, rightfully so, and we talked later. That DE was gone in about 6 months. Is this National's attitude in a nutshell?
  11. 1 point
    Cub Scout Day Camp. Our Council required a certified RN or PN or EMT for Medical Officer. Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. We once had a Cub who refused to drink anything that did not have a sweet flavor. The first day, our Director and MO consulted, and called the parents and told them, either the Cub drinks plain water, or YOU stay with him thru camp and provide the sweet liquid or he goes home. He did not return the next day. My prime suggestion, keep a good log. Note every visit from Johnny Cub, Ms Parent or Janey Sibling. Even to say "hello". Note the time, the name and the why and the what happened. Saves trouble and scratched heads later. AND it is probably a legal requirement.
  12. 1 point
    What they seek is not justice for their clients. It's money for themselves.
  13. 1 point
    I wouldn't mind it (the trolling) so much if the financial impact of the lawsuits fell on the wrongdoers. As it is, the burden of paying off the lawsuits is falling on the kids, through increased dues and fees, even though most of the kids in scouting had not even been born yet when these abuses occurred.
  14. 1 point
    When your organizational leadership acts as if the "customer's" desires are wrong, you get Sears.
  15. 1 point
    Ibuprofen and energy drinks
  16. 1 point
    Where was the breakfast; I am always up for that. Do I need a red coat? Have one "official" and two event lights.