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    • The 22,000 are not all ineligible volunteers. It is a disciplinary database that includes a range of incidents, from the most egregious abuse to those who have been directed to complete additional training before returning to their role as either a coach, athlete, or official. Currently SafeSports is directly responsible for at least 11 million youth but throws a much wider net in that is also encompasses collegiate age athletes and beyond. 
    • Lots of data qualifiers could be put in.  - 60 million youth sports ... how many covered by the safe sports site - Safe sports documents 220+ so far for this year.  Probably 300+ before end of the year.   300+ for 2023.   - Most of BSA's files are when BSA had 3 million to 4 million registered.  So, comparing the data is really hard.  On first glance, there seems to be a strong correlation though.
    • There are closer to 8,000 released files. That is not the total file count because an unknown number were removed in the 1990s in a bulk purge.   Approximately 60 million youth are registered to play sports each year in the United States compared to the low numbers involved in scouting.  Anecdotally, multiple victims who filed abuse claims have noted that their abusers are not listed in the released files despite having been reported to organized scouting.     
    • Found answer. Add some historical background from https://www.praesidiuminc.com/everything-need-know-safe-sport-act/ "The Protecting Young Victims from Sexual Abuse and Safe Sport Authorization Act of 2017 was created in reaction to the abuse found various youth sports organizations, including USA Gymnastics. This act will create new a standard of care that will affect youth-serving organizations across the country. The purpose of the law is to expand existing mandated reporting laws to all youth sport organizations that participate in international or interstate sporting events. This has the potential to affect not only national governing bodies like USA Gymnastics, USA Swimming, and other Olympic sports, but the law will also impact camps, public and private schools, collegiate sports, country clubs, community organizations, and sport facilities."
    • Digging up old ugly argument ... I don't thing BSA is that different than any other youth program.   Ineligible files had 5000 to 7000 from 1960s onward.  Many from 1970s and 1980s. SafeSports has 22000; a few from 1990s.  Most from 2010+.   Lots of nuances can be argued.  Awareness now versus then.  Number of youth and adults involved.  Nature of program.  Nature of crimes.  But, generally I don't think BSA is any different.  If anything, BSA was tracking it earlier and had youth protection training earlier.  
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