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OA in my area is basically a joke as described by Eagle94. I know that Jan 1st a bunch of changes went into affect and it's blowing up what was already a barely hanging on for relevance program that OA became. -
You likely do not want to have some responses of we old people that were elected long ago. It pretty much lost any real credibility, in my view, when it stopped putting limits on how many could be elected in a unit, and ceremonies were done with youth reading from a piece of paper and often with little or no obvious prep. Today, since I am still the on paper SM, though not active directly, I get the notices which I forward to my younger adults. I have counseled them with "my opinion" that if they choose to be in the election then they also have to commit to the Ordeal and at least some initial participation. Otherwise, I will not approve their being elected. The SM still has veto power, and I choose to use it in this. Our local lodge now is challenged to even find a place to do stuff, as they sold all our camps. The SE told me they do a good job helping around the office; hmmmmm. -
By Eagle94-A1 · Posted
I have been inactive for quite some time. Once the kids became Cubs, I had to pick and choose what to focus on, and OA went out the window. My chapter essentially folded circa 2017, as that was the last time elections were held. Tried to get them to come, no response. Well the SM got a neighboring chapter to come in for an election. Yep our chapter is dead, and the hope is the chapter can get restarted. But here is the funny thing. 1. The chapter advisor ran the entire election process. Youth basically said their names and whether they were Brotherhood or Vigil. 2. As long as you were First Class, the camping no longer mattered. 3. The only adult, 21+, was voted on and not nominated. 4. Everyone seemed to get elected, including folks who had just joined the troop, and no one really knows them. While I am glad they got elected, This shocked me. Is this now the norm, or a freak anomaly? -
By Eagle94-A1 · Posted
Glad you got a good job, cause i sure don't. -
That would be great. It would also be great if 75% of the troop actually wanted to be there rather than being forced to be there by their parents. Most of them want to be on their phone or running around. We've tried to give them ideas for games, given them resources, even conducted a game or two to show them how to play it. They always move back into some "game" that has no apparent rules. The rest want to sit on their phones and play games. They have no desire to be good at Scout skills. No desire to plan or prepare for the campout that is coming up. We've given them guidance on what to practice for the camporee because their skills across the board are not up to snuff. Half the Scouts First Class and above can't tie anything other than a square knot. We have 3 PLs that have no interest in the job. Our SPL was elected for some reason that escapes the kids who actually want to be there. He's constantly lost, does no prep work outside of Scout meetings, and has to be constantly reminded about everything. He was teaching lashings last week and taught them incorrectly. The ASPL was the previous SPL and he acts like an 11 y/o most of the time. The SM told me last week that it would be great to put together a patrol of kids who actually want to be there and put the rest into two other patrols. Then we can just let those two patrols do whatever while the rest actually do the program.
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