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    • The local neighboring council as 5 weeks of resident camp and expect 906 youth this year.  60% of those troops attending are out of council.  A different neighboring council merged, sold their camp, and their normally attending troops went elsewhere.  The mergers and selling of property is not a success story for SA.   On a side note, I attended the national unit commissioner fast start webinar and a discussion was on growth.  WOSM had a 14% gain the past 4yrs, while SA has been losing about 7%.  From 2025-2025 SA lost about 150,000 youth.  Just something to think about whether our programs are relevant or valuable to youth.   
    • Agree; and sadly those most anti Scouting will find anything to make it look bad.  That is a few people's goal it often seems.  So, keep the Spirit and its flame burning and dig into the local trenches.    
    • It sounds as if you want adults running things. If that is the case, then OA needs to stop being advertised as youth run. And yes I do think youth should run both the lodge and national. I have seen first hand what happens when adults interfere and ignore the youth, and you are seeing it too with lower interest and membership.  
    • I think  more than one thing is being conflated. The OA maintains a National Committee (National Order of the Arrow Committee | Order of the Arrow, Scouting America). There are four youth that serve on that committee- the National Chief/Vice Chief and the two Region Chiefs. Often, meetings of the committee occur at events where section chiefs are in attendance and may sit in, but they are not voting members. There has been noticeable change in Lodge Adviser/Associate Lodge Adviser membership in the ten years I was involved as an adult, but yes, historically those roles were places that individuals became set (and stayed for life in some cases). Many individuals from other lodges I interacted with were great people/mentors/Scouters, but there were some that hadn't been in unit-level positions in 2+ decades, and you had to question some of their comments as to whether they had lost a bit of the connection to what unit-level Scouting is/should be.   
    • On one hand Scouting America is being demonized while actually doing better than the general population. On the other hand the goal is zero incidents. Some low hanging fruit to improve the process and strive towards zero incidents would be automated revocation of membership if safety based training ever expires. If Scouting America wants credit for doing better it's going to have to do things like auto revoke adult registration for failure to gain and maintain training. Youth protection/safeguarding expires? Membership should get auto dropped before the next business day begins. Hazardous weather expires? Same thing. You're registered as an adult leader for over 90 days and not position trained, guess what, your membership should be auto dropped.  Safeguarding is the main training mandate that has to be absolutely 100% enforced; however, enforcing all of the other training requirements sets the tone of expectations. Until Scouting America gets serious I don't think it gets any credit regardless of being statistically better than everyone else. 
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