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    • You do know that the research for "OPERATION FIRST CLASS," "First Class, First Year," or whatever it is called now is deeply flawed? The research was done in the 1980s, and the idea came out in August 1989. That's  when they did away with Skill Awards, time requirements for Tenderfoor, Second Class, and First Class, and went from "Master the Skills," to "The Badge represents what a Scout CAN DO (SIC), not what he has done." mentality which IMHO leads to "One and Done." Research showed that Scouts who got First Class in 18 months stay around longer, which is true. BUT what was not included in the stats was 2 things: 1.How active a unit is and 2. LDS units. The more active a troop is, doing the activities the Scouts want to do, will lead to  retention. Yes advancement is slower, but those Scouts stick around longer. Best example is my soon to be 21 y.o. ASM.  He spent 4 years working on First Class as the swimming requirement was the issue. But the troop dis activities he liked, and he stuck around. He eventually passed the swim test, and earned Eagle. He has stuck around as much as possible while in college.  And all of my Eagles have stuck around until 18, or until they started college. Why? Because we are active and do the activities they want to do. But  the surveyors dis not show how active a troop was in their results.   The LDS units would segregate their 11 year old Scouts. I have seen lesson plans where the 11 year old patrol would repeat the same program every year. They were treated as if they were still Cub Scouts, with an ASM serving more as a DL, and TGs acting more like  den chiefs. Their program guaranteed them First Class in one year. One reason why LDS units got upset when the Camping requirement for First Class  went from 4 camp outs to 6 campouts in 2016: their 11 year olds were not allowed to camp more than 4 times /year.  And their protest changed it back to 4 (aside this ticked off my middle son as he had to wait 2 months to get the 6 campouts in, and right as he goes for his First Class BOR, National changed it back to 4. He was ticked off) And since the LDS used Scouting as their youth program, ALL (emphasis) males were registered in their troops, whether they were active or not. That skewed the data. So do not take the First Class, First Year to seriously. If you push it, you will have Scouts get bored, note care, leave, or stick around long enough to get Eagle and then quit. I have seen this happen with a lot over the years.  
    • So what's going on is a DC circuit court judge has dictated that burning the Israeli flag is a hate crime; therefore the response is "How is it a hate crime and illegal to burn a foreign nations flag but not illegal to burn our flag?". When stupid people do stupid things it's very common for more stupid things to happen in response.  
    • Well when we look at family packs in my district we have a couple of hold out "boy only" packs but they are down to a handful of scouts and when those kids crossover the packs are dead; everyone else is a coed family pack now. 
    • That is pretty much what happened in the UK when their program went coed. Sure you could have all male, all female, and coed troops. But over time the all the single gender units died out any only all female exist today. Or so I am told.  
    • Apparently our commander in chief just said flag burning is illegal. He said when people burn flags other people "go crazy" and start riots and lots of people die and it goes on all across the country and even the world! Any idea how this works with the flag code? Or even the fact that the executive branch can't make laws? Maybe someone needs to take the Cit in the Nation MB. It just drives me crazy when the fundamentals of the flag code are misunderstood and now this, from our elected leader. So after said leader spewed word salad saying it was now illegal some other guy said that the DOJ would investigate any flag burning and "where there's evidence of criminal activity [and] where prosecution wouldn't fall afoul of first amendment rights ... " then the DOJ should prosecute. Ummmm, what? Sounds like an executive order written to mollify exactly one person.  So I guess if you peacefully burn a flag in protest then it's okay? I think I might go burn a flag, not in protest but rather to retire it with dignity. But if it doesn't involve first amendment rights then it's illegal, no? Oh wait, at the same time that this executive order was signed another was signed, directing the DoD to take a larger role in "quelling civil disturbances." Probably all those scouts retiring flags. Maybe this was all just an AI hallucination.
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