Armymutt Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago New kid showed up last week. Went camping with us this past weekend. Can't seem to figure out the patrol method - kept coming to the adults for everything. Mom thinks he can earn Eagle by Christmas. Has him submitting videos for all sorts of requirements. In one, he is obviously reading off a cue card. In another, he ties a square knot instead of a sheet bend. I told the acting SM that I'm not comfortable accepting these as an appropriate level of skill to sign off the requirement. He agrees that it is strange. Has anyone encountered this sort of thing? It's an amazing hyper focus on rank advancement over actually being a Scout. I push my son to learn the material so he can advance, but this is something else. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashTagScouts Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Armymutt said: New kid showed up last week. Went camping with us this past weekend. Can't seem to figure out the patrol method - kept coming to the adults for everything. Mom thinks he can earn Eagle by Christmas. Has him submitting videos for all sorts of requirements. In one, he is obviously reading off a cue card. In another, he ties a square knot instead of a sheet bend. I told the acting SM that I'm not comfortable accepting these as an appropriate level of skill to sign off the requirement. He agrees that it is strange. Has anyone encountered this sort of thing? It's an amazing hyper focus on rank advancement over actually being a Scout. I push my son to learn the material so he can advance, but this is something else. I'd start by referring her to read the rank requirements, pointing out: 30 days (minimum) required to earn Tenderfoot due to the fitness requirement, 4 weeks (minimum) after earning Tenderfoot to earn Second Class (fitness requirement), 4 weeks (minimum) after earning Second Class to earn First Class (fitness requirement). I appreciate the kids enthusiasm, but it is a marathon and not a sprint. To each unit their own, but I wouldn't accept the youth doing videos for rank requirements. If the youth wanted to come to a troop meeting and ask the SPL if there is time for someone to test him on requirement X if time allows, that is at the SPL discretion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Never seen or heard of this before. I would ask her where she got the idea for recording videos of him performing tasks and see where the leads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitiveScouter Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Even at a full sprint, joining to Eagle takes 19 months: 30 days for Tenderfoot physical fitness requirements (all Scout and Tenderfoot requirements could be done in this period by a precocious Scout) Four weeks for Second Class physical fitness requirements (cumulative now 2 months) Four weeks for First Class physical fitness requirements (cumulative 3 months) Four Months as First Class to Star (cumulative 7 months) Six Months as Star to Life (cumulative 13 months) Six months as Life to Eagle (cumulative 19 months) I have never seen it done that quickly. The fastest I have seen it happen is a young lady who, already having her Venturing Summit Award, Congressional Award Gold Medal, and GS Silver Award, joined a Troop at 16 years old (under the waiver), and completed in 20 months to become one of the Inaugural Class of female Eagle Scouts. And, other than school work, that is all she focused on. (She dropped out of GS, and said the Gold Award was not worth it for her...) Show Mom the math... Edited 2 hours ago by InquisitiveScouter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSScout Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Oh there are some go getters.... Back in my days of yoooth, my Troop was very active, merit badges were not that important. We went camping and hiking and other stuff, New kid joins, his dad is a navy doctor who would attend meetings in full whites. The kid soon announced that he had done the math, so many months required for each rank, and he would be Eagle by such and such a date. Us senior Scouts looked at each other and realized he might well become the first Eagle in our Troop ! we decided we could NOT let that happen. Merit Badges became more important. We started looking for MBCounselors, shared earning them. The "new" kid was an okay guy. He became the third Eagle, about a year and a half late from his original schedule, but that's okay. Armymutt, talk to the Scout. Unless he has some other issues (ASD? Autism spectrum?), He needs to take charge of his Scout career. Remind the mom that SHE is not the Scout.... sounds like she wants to live the Scout life she missed out on as a yoooth. Make her a ASM WITH TRAINING, then a Commissioner to get her out of your Troop's hair,... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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