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A Letter from BSA’s Chief Diversity Officer & Vice President of Diversity and Inclusion


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3 hours ago, Eagle94-A1 said:

Youth want challenges. Youth need to make mistakes and learn the hard way,  albeit in a safe environment. Youth need responsibilities.  

Absolutely agree with this.  BUT the question is what challenges?  I view that as the pride of successfully camping in a torrential down pour or cross country skiing at -20F or a 50 mile camping bike ride or a ...    Youth also want responsibilities.  Setting up tent.  Cooking.  Being responsible for themselves.

What youth do NOT want is to be preached at.  It's why the scoutmaster's minute works so well.  A light reflective moment that SMs can leverage.  ...   example ... I hope never again to see adults hovering around injecting as a patrol creates their meal plan and decide who's going to shop.  

 

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I agree Fred, I  have never heard a kid say that they joined Scouts to learn leadership, responsibility, life enriching lessons, diversity or inclusion.  They want to camp out, play with fire and kniv

I am a lifer. Started as a Cub, earned Eagle and aged out. Was a Sea Scout for a bit while serving as an ASM. Not only did i not leave the movement,  but I also worked for it.  In my professional opin

This is a long-stated position of mine.   BSA needs to be careful about their messages to the adult volunteers.  Adult volunteers too often hear that BSA is about leadership.  Thus, their job is to

10 minutes ago, mrjohns2 said:

Amen. 

This is a long-stated position of mine.  

BSA needs to be careful about their messages to the adult volunteers.  Adult volunteers too often hear that BSA is about leadership.  Thus, their job is to teach leadership or to teach scout's how to lead / how to run things.  What I often see is the worst possible message and lessons.  IMHO, BSA should be telling adult volunteers to teach scouts how to setup a tent or cook a meal ... or better yet ... enable an experienced scout to teach a new scout how.  Let the scouts naturally learn leadership / getting the job done by doing / being active.

Leadership is a great benefit of scouting.  

BUT, scouting is about DOING.  

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44 minutes ago, KublaiKen said:

The last segregated council was integrated in 1974.

That may have been the official year of integration, but some councils took longer unoffically. One council I have been in did not integrate until the 1980s. While the segregated districts "merged," they still kept doing their own events.

 

11 minutes ago, skeptic said:

It is not the Oath and Law that are flawed, but the individuals that choose to not adhere as most of us, "today", interpret it.  We come back to the idea that somehow we in this time in history are responsible for the misguided peceptions and attitudes of another era.  

Agree. we are not responsible for the past. We need to focus on today, and prepare our youth for the future. While we need to be cognizant of the past and how it affects today, we need to focus on solving the issues of today.

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If one believes we are trying to fix the past, then I would agree that is impossible. But I don't think that's in the intent or execution of what is happening today; I believe we are taking the lessons of the past and trying to fix the present, which includes quite a bit of downstream impact (intentional and otherwise) of many decades (centuries, societally) of very bad policy and practice. And a valuable tool in identifying and eradicating (or mitigating) those ills is asking the people who suffer from them what they think.

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I agree Fred, I  have never heard a kid say that they joined Scouts to learn leadership, responsibility, life enriching lessons, diversity or inclusion.  They want to camp out, play with fire and knives, and go swimming.  If we provide that, the rest will come!

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8 minutes ago, Mrjeff said:

I agree Fred, I  have never heard a kid say that they joined Scouts to learn leadership, responsibility, life enriching lessons, diversity or inclusion.  They want to camp out, play with fire and knives, and go swimming.  If we provide that, the rest will come!

I have long maintained that the Scouting is in the entertainment business.  It provides fun and challenging times (shooting, swimming, playing with fire (safely), knives,) learning new things, and comradeship with their friends, while those devious adults slip leadership, assuming responsibility, planning, ethics, morals, into the program to be absorbed seamlessly (perhaps with a bit of suggestion now and then).

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