walk in the woods

I use my two-man summer tent (REI Half-dome) in the winter. I normally throw a cotton sheet between the tent and the fly as a frost freezer plus the normal ground cloth under. On the floor of the tent I have a couple of wool blankets, an old saddle-like blanket, and my thermarest. If it's been really cold I throw my old coleman sleeping bag down for additional insulation and padding. I've seen people use insulating board like you'd put in a house but it always seemed uncomfortable to me and noisy. I second all the recommendations about 3-layers of clothing. I prefer the poly base layers (gloves, socks, and skivvies) and synthetic-fleece insulating layers. MIttens instead of gloves on the outside. Unless it's wicked cold I change into clean and dry clothes for bed.

Because that would allow discretion for on-the-ground leadership. Outright bans are always the choice of bureaucrats and tyrants that do not trust their subjects.

OOOOH. Let me get some popcorn!

Navy has a similar program if it's water that's got him interested, http://www.seacadets.org/. I've known a few former sailors that enjoyed working with youth in that program.

I've always carried my own umbrella policy.

https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/how-to-share-a-life-of-outdoors-strenuosity-with-your-son/

Everybody knows the appropriate pronunciation is KA-row

I wonder if some skepticism isn't in order. The father's story is basically, I didn't see anything because of all the trees, but I heard 80 shots from an AR-15 (because it was consistent firing) and heard a woman's voice that I'd guess was 80 - 100 yards away. And oh by the way, the church has had problems with this woman before. 80 rounds would be two or three typical magazines for an AR as I understand them. Consistent shooting could be multiple people on a range. Regular old .223 rifles make about the same sound. Just because he only heard one voice doesn't mean there weren't multiple people. There's clearly some built-in bias against the neighbor. Lot's of assumptions, precious little fact.

I could imagine a couple of reasons: - To offload the salaries/pension, maintenance, and insurance costs. - To deflect bad press if camps can't make a go of it and shutdown/sell to developers

IDK, seems like a lot of the infrastructue is already coming into place. - Scoutbook seems to be the chosen platform. Once unit leaders submit an advancement report the system could flip you over to an outsourced web page to order all the awards and have them shipped by drone to your house. BSA supply division is dramatically reduced in size and complexity. Not sure whether these are bad example or apropos, but, this is basically the model that Borders and Toy's R Us pursued with Amazon. - Combine Online Registration and Scoutbook rosters and there's really no need for a scout office registrar or the minions who have to manually enter or misenter paper applications. - Once you've eliminated back office and scout shops is there really any need for a scout office? Councils become virtual operations with a few professionals. - Councils could spin off their camps as separate NFP organizations and let them live or die on their own. I think @codger might be wrong in that National would survive, but the councils might all die off (kind of like regional offices did a few years back).

No. I got into scouting as an adult to help my son and his peers navigate the path from boyhood to manhood in a society that is increasingly hostile towards boys/men. That's where my passion for scouting lies. I did the co-ed youth group leadership thing for a few concurrent years as well. It was a good program, but, it wasn't as good for the boys as scouting.

This just crossed one of the Commissioner FB pages https://www.scouting.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/FAQ-Family-Program-061218-FINAL.pdf. Some new-to-me info regarding YPT questions. We've had so many threads going I figured, why not start another :)!

The good news is anybody who disagrees with your interpretation of the rules can report it (anonymously?) to the new 1800 number and get an independent third interpretation!

I use an old Jansport Odyssey 38 I use for work and the trail. It's held up pretty well over the years.

Or do MBCs get a pass under the personal-conference clause: So, if it's a "meeting" with a MBC then two over 21 registered adults are required. But, if it's a personal conference then you only need someone with "knowledge" of why the meeting is happening and be "in view of other adults and/or youth." The latter would suggest a MBC could counsel a scout at the local library as long as the librarian knows why you're there and can see you both.

Yep, you can probably go all the way back to the ISP. Until recently however, unsupervised patrol activities were still allowed. The recent changes prescribe they are no longer allowed.

According to the G2SS, (Effective October 1, 2018) Two registered adult leaders 21 years of age or over are required at all Scouting activities, including meetings. So in a couple of months it is effectively against scouting rules for a patrol to get together to plan anything unless 2 adults are present. Adding the registered adult supervision absolutely changes the value proposition of the PM. For example, when #1 son was working on the FC cooking requirement (maybe 6 years ago) he went over to another scout's house after school to plan menus and equipment and such. There were zero registered leaders present and likely only one adult. Doing the planning on their own was the entire point. By the letter of the new law, that meeting would be prohibited. So, not even close to 100%.

There was a time that a patrol organizing their own activities was the beating heart of the patrol method.

I would estimate my baseline costs for my son were $500-$600 per year. I suspect our challenge isn't cost so much as Return on Investment. I know I don't have to sell anybody here on the ROI of scouting but then again, we aren't the ones making the judgement. The question is what do parents see as the ROI. I suspect, because the return is drawn out over a number of years, many parents rate scouting's return lower than sports or other school activities where the return seems to be more immediate (game next week, two school plays/concerts a year, etc.).

Ok. Here's the original announcement touting single gender programming https://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/press-releases/bsa-expands-programs-welcome-girls-cub-scouts-highest-rank-eagle-scout/.

Check the FAQ and infographic at https://www.scouting.org/familyscouting/

I mentioned Creek Stewart in another thread but was told he had too much of a midwestern ethic navajo medicine man vibe. Everybody says we need a Bear Grylls but nobody ever puts a name on this person.

That doesn't answer the question.

If the BSA dropped the DRP, would those of you that oppose to the DRP be open to individual COs adding one for their units?

I don't believe the executive pubahs believe their resolution. I think it looks like a blatent sop to try to settle the unrest and minimize the spread of damage. So for those that believe the resolution I have some ocean front property in AZ.