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    NYLT Recruitment

    Hi Barry ( @Eagledad ) and company, I realize this is resurrecting a very old thread. But do you have any advice for the adults on how to help the scouts take advantage of and use the new skills they have learned at NYLT when they come back to their troops? I have three scouts going to NYLT later this summer . . . and yes I really don't know what the scouts are going to learn there.
  2. As a kid, a GSUSA Girl Scout in Europe, the scouts in my troop made completely unofficial neckerchiefs to wear for activities for which our uniform was inappropriate. When wearing our neckerchiefs we were immediately recognizable as some variety of guide/scout. (There were multiple scouting/guiding organizations in that country.) Ironically, when wearing our GSUSA uniforms we were not recognized as guides/scouts but were (at least once) mistaken for flight attendants.
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    New Scout Patrol vs Mixed Age Patrols (YPT)

    On some camping trips the tent arrangments have been almost completely determined by (1) the 2-year rule and (2) the desire to separate sisters so that they have more of a chance to get to know the other scouts.
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    New Scout Patrol vs Mixed Age Patrols (YPT)

    My troop has a 30-month age spread. The scouts go to different schools and they are not so aware of the exact ages of the other scouts. They all seem to get along well with each other. I have definitely had scouts request to tent together for summer camp who were more than 24 months apart in age (probably without being aware of the exact age difference). It would be *much* simpler for us if the allowable age difference were 2.5 years or 3 years.
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    How do camps accommodate girl troops?

    How is your camp handling girl provo campers? Are they being welcomed every week the camp is open?
  6. The linked-troop aspect is what makes this particular wood badge so interesting. It will be interesting to see what model or models BSA is promoting for how linked troops should function. What I saw at summer camp this summer, seeing the linked troops there, was that different troops were doing things very differently. In one troop the boy scouts (middle schoolers or young high schoolers) I talked with thought that their troop had simply added a girls patrol -- these boy scouts had absolutely no idea that the girls had to be registered as a separate troop. For another linked troop pair, the girls' troop and the boys' troop had different troop numbers, were in different campsites, arrived at different times, brought different adults with them, and functioned completely separately at camp. January is not prime camping time in my part of the country. Rather convenient to do wood badge at a time of year when it will not cut into prime weekends to spend camping with the troop.
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    How do camps accommodate girl troops?

    Our council camp is being very welcoming to the girls. Already had individual shower stalls with real doors that locked and a private dressing area inside the stall. Only difference has been how provo campers are being handled. So far the (very few) provo girls are being placed with girls troops who are at camp that week and who have offered to host them. When our troop was at camp, the single provo girl stayed in the campsite with us and did everything with our troop. This worked fine.
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    Tent set up question

    I am imagining this scenaro. Kid, at home, before camp, in family room and eyeing the throw rug on the floor. Asks "Mom, can I take a rug to camp for my tent?" Mom, eyeing same throw rug (her favorite) and imagining what it would look like after a week of camp says, "No. Not allowed". Kid jumps to conclusion and . . . .
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    Quick: Are Crocs closed toe enough for camp?

    Crocs are great for the showers, maybe okay for the waterfront. Not secure enough on the feet for general all-day wear around camp. (Not the rule of any particular BSA camp, but my opinion only.)
  10. There is also the problem of kids at school having an allergic reaction to something they did not know they were allergic to. In recent years, because of situations such as the one descibed by @scoutldr in which a kid has an allergic reaction at school but no epipen, effort has been made to allow schools to have "stock epinephrine" available for use for kids who have an allergic reaction but do not have a prescribed epinephrine auto-injector (epipen or similar). These sites, https://www.foodallergy.org/education-awareness/advocacy-resources/advocacy-priorities/school-access-to-epinephrine-map and https://www.aafa.org/epinephrine-stocking-in-schools/ , have information on states allowing or requiring schools to have stock epipephrine. Unfortunately I do not know what other groups are permitted to carry stock epinephrine -- and this is likely to vary by state. There is some information here: https://www.foodallergy.org/public-access-to-epinephrine
  11. FARE's Food Allergy & Anaphylaxis Emergency Care Plan is very helpful in telling the uninformed what to do in case of an allergic reaction. (How to recognize a reaction and whether to use the epinephrine.) Worth a read, even if you don't currently have a kid in your troop with known allergies. Of course it assumes that you have an epinephrine autoinjector at hand and can call an ambulance, and that you only need to deal with the first 20 minutes of the reaction without help. https://www.foodallergy.org/life-with-food-allergies/food-allergy-anaphylaxis-emergency-care-plan https://www.foodallergy.org/media/329 Allergies might be scary for scouters. Even scarier for the families -- will their kid be unable to advocate for himself? will the surrounding companions be too hesitant to administer epinephrine promptly (less effective after a delay)?
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    First New Troop Adult Meeting

    In our area local advertising, even before our plans were as definite as yours, found more girls (and their parents) to add to the group forming a troop. Don't feel like you have to have everything lined up before you start broadly recruiting. You don't need to promise what you don't yet have, but you can certainly announce your hopes and intentions.
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    First New Troop Adult Meeting

    I have never met anyone in GSUSA who enthused about the "Journeys". Of course I have only met the average volunteers, not the people who write these materials.
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    First New Troop Adult Meeting

    Our girls troop just went for a joint camping trip with our linked boys troop. (First joint trip, the girls troop has had several camping trips on its own.) This was a traditional annual event for the boys troop. All the cooking was done with propane. But the boys built a bonfire that had flames that must have been at least five feet high -- and burned much more wood than would have been needed to cook for the entire long weekend. In our part of the country at least, camping in camps with established fire rings and ample downed wood, we cannot blame LNT for the lack of campfire cooking.
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    First New Troop Adult Meeting

    The major differences in how BSA and GSUSA operate and do things is one of the reasons that some currently and/or formerly associated with GSUSA have now enrolled with BSA. If they were entirely happy with all the ways that GSUSA operates they would see no reason to join BSA. That being said, there are a couple of things from my GSUSA background that I would like to bring into the BSA troop I am affiliated with: 1) enthusiastic singing around the campfire 2) scouts developing real competence in campfire cooking Neither are, I think, opposed to BSA ways, simply out of fashion at the moment.
  16. Our troop is just starting to think about this. The girls have looked at some prototypes, and need to decide style and colors. It is really easy to take a square yard of fabric and put seam binding around it. (e.g. Wrights extra-wide double-fold bias tape ) Actually easier than simply hemming it. Makes a sharp looking necker. And you get any color combo you they want. Or cut the square yard into two triangles before binding the edges to make triangular neckers -- less functional but easier to roll tightly. Leather lacing 3mm wide can be made into a turks head woggle. Some of our girls like a 4-lead turks head -- and this is decidely different looking from the wood badge woggle.
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    Camp info packet

    What is a gateway? Maybe we should know before we go to camp?
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    First New Troop Adult Meeting

    We were told by the council that the girls could pick any number they wanted. They picked one. As we were turning in the charter paperwork we were told by the council that, actually, they had decided that all girl troops would have a number beginning in 7, that is, instead of being troop XY we would be troop 70XY. They did say we could still call ourselves XY, and wear XY on our uniforms, but it would be 70XY in the computer system. Fortunately, I figured out how to use the alternate unit description on the beascout pin, so that beascout now says XY for us. Scoutbook is still saying 70XY. (grrr.)
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    First New Troop Adult Meeting

    If someone can front the cost for a few Scouts BSA Handbooks for Girls, then you can have them on hand to hand out to any girl who fills in the application and pays the registration fee. Reading the handbook has been very motivational for some of my scouts.
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    First New Troop Adult Meeting

    I want the scouts to do as much as they can for themselves But also, with young and inexperienced scouts, I feel like the adults need to give them enough support that they can actually get out-of-doors and do something. (Because if scouting is not fun they will not stick with the program and benefit from it.) It is hard to know exactly how much support is the right amount of support, not too little, and not too much.
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    First New Troop Adult Meeting

    Do your scouts actually know that summer Council camp is an option? Sometimes we need to let them know what the possibilities are -- not to force them to do something, but to let them know that they could decide to do something.
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    First New Troop Adult Meeting

    Our small troop elected a PL rather than an SPL. Initial elections were right as the troop formed up and initial length of office was only three months -- which was a good thing. The girls didn't really know what the jobs were like or what they likely doing. By three months into the patrol's existance, it was much clearer what needed to be done and who would be a good patrol leader. I would not force them to quickly settle on the name and flag. Get them started thinking about it, even before the troop is chartered. But you want them to have time to pick a good name, and name with some meaning to them, a name that they will want to keep for years. Once they realize that they cannot reach Scout rank until they have a patrol name, that will motivate them to finish deciding.
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    First New Troop Adult Meeting

    We've been doing this. It's working well.
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    First New Troop Adult Meeting

    Why have the adults choose a troop number? Why not let the girls choose it? (Assuming the C.O. isn't set on matching numbers to existing units.)
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    Patrol Identity, Then and Now...

    I leaned on my scouts a little here. I told them to pick a good patrol name, a name that meant something to them, a name that they would be happy to keep for a long time (years). I told them that they could design the artwork for their own patrol patch so that they could have a good patrol patch. (I also made fun of some of the existing patrol patches available from Class B and elsewhere: the flaming nuclear biohazard something-or-others.) Then I watched to see what they would come up with. (They had had a couple of months to think over their patrol name before the decision time. Though some scouts had started thinking of patrol name ideas before the troop was formed.) They ended up (with no prodding by me) choosing a very traditional patrol name. They, collectively, came up with many reasons why it was a great name -- including that it was the name of one of the patrols of girls that showed up at the Crystal Palace boy scout rally in 1909.
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