Hawkwin

Scouts are not required to complete the online YPT.

BSA is non-denominational. Following the old book is not required. I have no more business questioning the practices of Catholics or Hindu than I do trying to tell other people that they must accept my (or my faiths) interpretation of sin. Again, I am not going to judge others and while you state it is clear to you - it is only clear to those that follow that faith. With hundreds of Christian denominations, there are going to be more that are wrong than are right when it comes to what is actually "Biblical" and I am sure each one thinks they have the correct interpretation - and they can't all

That was my opinion as well, but I would like to get something affirmative on this. We have a den hike coming up and I would rather be safe than sorry.

I was raised Southern Baptist in the deep South where I was still paddled in school and wearing shorts was not permitted in school (showed too much skin). I remember being told to break my rock and roll records because when they were played backwards, they told us to do sinful things. Hating the sinner was a big deal with my church and religion. It wasn't until much later in life that I learned that we should have hated the sin and not the sinner. Even if you believe being gay is a sin, it is no worse a sin than any others - and yet we are still told to love the sinner. If you are a

How do you handle YPT requirements when they conflict with emergency situations? You are 1.5 miles out on a 5 mile hike with your den and a scout is injured. There are just two leaders on the hike. What do you do? If there are three leaders, what do you do?

Nothing prevents a false accusation but a written digital record is certainly a stronger defense than a verbal one. Digital also a better protection against inappropriate contact for the same reason. Even when my son forgets to copy me (or a member of the troop forgets to add me in their reply), I can simply log into my son's email to see what was received or sent. I don't get any of that if it was a phone call.

I sure hope this comes with some sort of structure as the current program has almost none. Today I received an enthusiastic email from a local female architect in response to my request for our den to meet with her as part of the Build It requirement for Webelos/AOL electives. The lady works for the firm that designed our new local Girl Scout building. The irony of the fact that we would never had done this as part of Girl Scouts is not lost on me - or my daughter.

Much value in that advice. Some things are worth more because we chose to do them when they are only meaningful to ourselves.

Isn't the election good for one year? My son was recently elected (was not at the tap out) and he was told he could do either the Spring or Fall Ordeal.

How is that currently any different with Venturing? Are not their uniforms the same but cut differently for women? If so, seems the logical option would be to do the same for Scouts - simply change the cut. While we are on the subject of uniforms, I've never had a male uniform that fit well. Just bought new pants and had to have the legs tapered when getting them hemmed.

Ya, but how many Eagles did we have in 1912? Last year we had something like 56,000 - over 1,000 a week. I would assume that we will probably have a few dozen if not a few hundred girls that are all approved at the same time by the National Advancement Program Team. I would think that BSA would want to discourage Troops from trying to game the system by having a single first and instead simply confirm that all applicants during XXX period will be approved by the NAPT on the same day ; thereby reducing the rush to be the first to pass their BOR.

Perhaps, but it isn't my pack and if the goal is to solicit the opinions of the parents - then you have to ask the parents and not assume what is the best outcome. No reason to have a survey otherwise - and they might come to the same decision.

Questions pertaining to joint/coed den activities vs single den (single gender) den activities. Should extracurricular activities be gender-based. I.e. Pinewood derby - should there be a girl winner and a boy winner or just a pack winner? How about best in show awards for the best looking cars, gender or pack based?

Something I teach my scout son - especially as it pertains to the internet (and something for which I personally struggle - which is why I know the term): MRI: most respectful interpretation. https://www.fs.blog/2017/01/most-respectful-interpretation/

Not an attorney (but I stay at a Super 8 this weekend!), but I see no grounds to sue based on discrimination. The CO is not required to treat the troops equally, much less even charter a girls troop. In order to have standing in a case of discrimination, you must have a right to exist and participate. The CO is under no obligation to provide such. Now that being stated, the Council might find itself in some potential legal jeopardy if it does not provide troops for girls. I think others have stated that Councils have chartered Venturing troops before and I would not be surprised if some c

Any chance this will be live streamed?

I know the World Jambo is not the same as the Nat Jambo but for those that were there last year, would you recommend people with day passes and limited days go to the Jambo at the beginning or the end?

As a supporter of BSA4G, I hope you stand as firm against those complaints as you would against anyone else that tries to threaten you over your membership policies. I will continue to defend your right to be boy-only if you wish. Those parents are free to start their own CO/Troop if they feel so strongly. I know I might face the same decision and hurdles for my daughter but I would never seek to force her onto her brothers CO if they don't want her. I don't imagine that would be a good scouting experience for either party.

OK, but do you acknowledge that not all COs will charter a girls troop? It is entirely possible that Will's CO will decide to not pursue a girls troop and if they make that decision, then there will be no linked troop.

Found this (from 2017) - adds a bit more back story (as you likely already know): https://www.getreligion.org/getreligion/2017/5/15/when-the-latter-day-saints-dump-the-boy-scouts-might-there-be-a-back-story-here Snip: I'd bet that BSA saw the writing on the wall as it pertains to LDS which might be one of the reasons that this role out of inclusion of girls was so sloppy.

This leads me to wonder if this "joint statement" and the fact that LDS has been working on this "for years" might have something to do with the new membership changes. Perhaps BSA knew this was coming and including girls was an attempt to offset this upcoming and eventual loss. Speculation, but certainly this change didn't happen overnight or in a vacuum. And hey, no need to shout it. 😏

COs are not required to offer a girls troop. Many here have already stated that their CO will be boys only. So I will state again, there will be no girls in any boy troop and many, I would even say most COs will be boys only.

Welcome Will. As it stands right now*, you will not have a single girl in your Troop, much less in your patrol. What is it about girls in a different troop that you think will ruin your experience? You shouldn't have to deal with girls in Scouts. *I assume no change is likely or even possible on this aspect until at least 2020 or later.

What is the current official word on the requirement for there to be a female DL/ADL present? I have an overnighter coming up and while the pack has women that are YPT, they have different roles within the pack - and you can't have two different leadership positions as an adult leader so we can't simply ask one of our other female leaders to step in and be an ADL for the camp out.