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  1. CherokeeScouter

    Guide to Advancement

    Absolutely make it online. I have a real problem getting adult personnel to in-person training.
  2. CherokeeScouter

    BSA records

    Uh, no. Size 12 shoe not tasting too good right now.
  3. CherokeeScouter

    Eliminate merit badges, advancement from Scouting

    Point well taken.
  4. CherokeeScouter

    Eliminate merit badges, advancement from Scouting

    LOL. I've written about this episode before, but it's worth repeating. But I once did a Tenderfoot or Second Class (can't remember all the particulars) BOR for a 16-year-old who had been in the troop for about 4 years and who also had like over 50 nights camping and 150 miles hiking. He also was excellent hunter and fisherman. The BOR thought it was a mistake, but the kid confirmed, yes he indeed was just a Scout (or whatever that preceding rank was). Naturally we were a little curious and started asking questions. He just replied he didn't like "all that advancement stuff" and that he just like to hike and camp with his buddies. At summer camp, he would spend every hour at the shooting or archery range or the waterfront. I don't think he ever completed a MB. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
  5. CherokeeScouter

    BSA records

    I gotta say, I'm an Eagle and been in adult leadership for about 6 years. I have never seen such discussion about the way advancement is entered and kept. Regardless of all the blue cards, Scout handbooks, etc. at some point, it has to go into a database. No two ways about it. Doesn't your Scout's advancement end up on the troop's computer (or the advancement chair's), which is then periodically uploaded to council? This centralized database is what council and National are looking to as to whether a Scout has met the requirements for Eagle. Handbooks and blue cards are excellent ways to teach responsibility and self-reliance, but to say they are "the official record" and we don't accept anything else is kinda cray. The official record of a Scout's advancement rests in that Council's database.
  6. CherokeeScouter

    BSA records

    I have never in my life turned a blue card into Council. There are 10 ways to earn a MB and only in a couple of instances, are we able to use a Blue Card with any success.
  7. CherokeeScouter

    BSA records

    Your local council is still your best bet. I tracked down my Eagle info from the new council that replaced my old council, which merged. And they found it in seconds. As far as any more advancement info beyond Eagle stuff, good luck. The council I was dealing with did not have any OA records or any other advancement records except copies of old charters. Not sure they had centralized reporting of advancement until the computer systems came on line. SST3rd, what on earth is your council using to record advancement? With most councils, advancement records are uploaded or recorded in council's database. When you submit an Eagle App, council checks the dates against their records and if all matches up, they approve it. I mean it's good you're using the book, MB cards and all that paper, but if a new Scout from another council transfers in with his old council's computer printout, are you saying you wouldn't honor it? Plus, what good does all the paper do if council has no record of anything.? Am I missing something?
  8. Our Scoutmaster came up with a good way to get in some leg training and backpacking treks for us flatlanders who may not have many weekends to devote to skakedown hikes in preparations for Philmont and the AT. He did this weekend's 15K with a full pack. And we have a slew of 15K and 5K race/walks coming up between now and summer sponsored by various nonprofits. Excellent way for the Scouts - and the adults - to break in boots, get used to carrying weight, etc. - without having to devote a full weekend to shakedown treks (although there is no substitute for that). Plus, if the troop is involved, it can count as a troop activity and maybe count for certain day hikes needed for MB or rank.
  9. CherokeeScouter

    Upvotes and downvotes

    You people obviously have some time on your hands. Why don't you spend some of that time to help me in my crusade to revamp the Eagle Project Workbook.
  10. CherokeeScouter

    Eagle Project Workbook

    That's interesting because that is the age group having the toughest time. Maybe they need to slow or maybe you are really smart, which you probably are.
  11. CherokeeScouter

    Eagle Project Workbook

    You may be in the minority here. But there seems to be a correlation with age. Are you an adult or youth?
  12. My son and a buddy were thinking of doing the Philmont Trail Crew trek. Has anyone on here done this or is familiar with it? If so, did they like it or have they heard good things about it? Also, the website is kind of scarce on details. It seems like a week of work, then a weeklong trek. If so, where do they stay in the first week? Are meals provided? Where do they eat, etc. ? What's the trek like? How many miles? Will they be able to get a 50-miler in? Any details you can provide would be helpful. Tx in advance.
  13. CherokeeScouter

    Eagle Project Workbook

    Wouldn't it be great if we could somehow fix this problem? Which brings me back to my OP. Does anyone from National follow this forum?
  14. CherokeeScouter

    Eagle Project Workbook

    Yeah, the "leadership to others" wasn't in the requirement when I did my project. But it was an awesome project that involved tons of Scouting skills. We blazed, mapped and marked a 30-mile trail from my hometown to the Scout Camp. I took responsibility for the first 15 miles and my buddy took responsibility for the second 15 for his Eagle project. We did it on weekends, which meant backpacking and camping as we progressed along our route. It involved some serious orienteering (90 degrees due east from town to camp and you pretty much had to maintain that heading going from point to point) although we had to detour around a humongous beaver dam. Then we had to get permissions from landowners. But imagine our pride when the District did a camporee called the "Crow Hike," which followed our trail. This was an area of NC that didn't have a lot of hiking trails.
  15. CherokeeScouter

    Eagle Project Workbook

    One document consisting of two parts. And if you are insisting on hard signatures, then a signature page that includes both PRE and POST signatures. This way eliminates all the insertion and all that crap. You just scan a signature page when you are done (or take a photo of it) and add to the Workbook. But right now, we have a signature page embedded in the Proposal and a signature page embedded into the Report. Plus the contact info page, which seems totally superfluous to me. And do we need we really need a distinction between material and supplies (or whatever it is)? I'm almost fairly certain I could get the Proposal and the Report down to one page each (10 point). You ought to see the Eagle Reference Letter I did for the Council. It is a thing of beauty. Contains Oath and Law and space for comments. It's one page.