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Sorry for the delay in response, Just got back. Yes , patches were budgeted and considered part of the fee. However Council has a habit of not ordering things, or ignoring quantities requested. And we do tend to order extra event patches because we A) use them as thank you gifts for sponsors and non-Scouting event staff, B) just in case we have more folks attend than planned, and C) the local OA chapter buys the excess at cost, and sells them to raise funds for camp and camperships. Best example is when I ordered a ton of supplies via my DE, when I had one. Long story short, only th

I really think my council is in serious financial trouble. Why you ask? Because after this weekend, no events will have patches. As for the event this weekend, they are only handing out 1/3 of the patch. Long story short, The patch for the last week and this week's events had 2 segments that were identical, with the 2 additional segments for last week's event and this week's event. Council did not order enough of the 2 primary segments, and may not have enough of the segment for this weekend. And this is not the first time the council has done this. One year they had so many attend, and want

Sadly this is 110% correct. And I would go on to add some ADULT SCOUTERS (emphasis) believe MBs should be handed out like Halloween candy at summer camp. I remember fielding a lot of complaints one year when NO ONE passed my Lifesaving MB class because A) the class was to large (25+ Scouts), B) The disruptive Scouts I had could not be kicked out of the class per the Program Director, and C) because of said size and disruptions, not all of the skills were taught and reviewed. I think many a SM just handed that MB to their scouts, despite them not earning it. page 52 of the Guid

When I was a DE, we had to go to every district event for that very reason. Heck I remember flying in from Dallas after two weeks of training, washing clothes while packing a backpack, and going to camp to help teach the district ITOLS class the very day I got home. Another DE, on medically endorsed light duties after a surgery, had to commute back and forth from his house to a camporee, about 1:15 drive one way. That IS the way it is. It is always the volunteers fault, XYZ happened. Everyone has examples of that one. AND in the rare cases that volunteers are not involved,

We were told effective 2023 that will be the new norm.

@jcousino, Lots of forms has the SE's signature on it. BSA Lifeguard is one example of a form that they sign off on.

NCAC approval was done by volunteer who is certified. Never seen pros certify events except summer camp when regional inspectors are invovled and no local ones.

From the Guide to Advancement page 52: 8.0.0.1 Purpose and Timeliness of Boards of Review After a Scout has completed the requirements for any rank (except Scout rank), he or she appears before a board of review. A board of review must be a personal and individual experience. Its purpose is to determine the quality of the Scout’s experience and decide whether the requirements for the rank have been fulfilled. (emphasis added) If so, the board not only approves the Scout’s advancement but also provides encouragement to continue the quest for the next rank. Because the board of review date

Well my council is at it again. I really wish professional training had courses on gaining trust, working with ticked off volunteers, etc. We had a district event this weekend. No DEs were there as they were sent to another district's event instead. Not a good move to build bridges, especially since they are selling the local camp, which has ticked off folks. And to make matter worse, found out supplies that were requested were never ordered. So the event chair was running around Thursday and Friday, paying out of pocket for items. Happened to me once back in the day. And the p

Update Talked on the phone with CC and had a discussion with the previous SM who is on the committee. Developed a plan and we began implementation at meeting. Had a Thorns and Roses session about the troop. Everyone loves the activities we do: Whitewater rafting, backpacking, biking, etc. The meetings are what everyone is frustrated with as they are unorganized, or planned poorly. Poor communication within the ranks, and lots of arguing because no one pays attentions and or agrees. Part of that is we are the size a normal patrol, but folks want to have two 3 man patrols, ASPL and SPL

I apologize in advance for the length of this post. As some may recall, I switched troops 4 years ago from a toxic troop to one that was not toxic, but slowly dying. Eventually the toxic issues with the old troop were resolved, and the troop is thriving. My current troop has been active, but on life support, and now we are dying. While we scaled back on activities during COVID, we did remain active doing outdoor meetings, day trips, and even our own summer camp. The problem is we do not have a Cub Scout pack to recruit from. Nearly everyone in the troop transferred from another troop into

I have personally seen individuals questioning council pros on finance issues be placed in the IVF. The SE played a major role. I knew retread professional who left one toxic council, and went to another when he was eligible to return.. First council found out and tried to get him fired and placed in the IVF because the SE was that vindictive. Thankfully the new boss prevented that from happening.

If this really happened, then you are indeed fortunate. In several councils I have been in, that has not been the case. A lot of behind closed door decisions and deals. But the SE can manipulate the nominating committee to recommending "yes men" so they rubber stamp the SE's decisions. I was told how to do that on the district level when I was a DE by one DFS and SE. Where to begin on this one. 1. Sometimes the powers that be are so set on selling a camp, they do not care what folks want, or willing to do. There was a groups of Scouters locally willing to buy a ca

Ironically, I do not blame the current camp situation in my council on the SE. Camp sales were planned prior to his arrival. Now his previous predecessors....

According to this https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/511-421(16)_WEB.pdf CORs "Represent your organization on the council and district levels." According to this: https://troopleader.scouting.org/chartered-organization-representative/ "The chartered organization representative may become a member of the district committee and is a voting member of the council." Sounds like they are on the council board to me.

Anyone else remember when Scouts sat on BORs for the T-2-1 ranks?

Be thankful you still have a pack. When we stopped being able to recruit in local schools 10+ years ago, my troop's pack dies. We are down to 8 Scouts, with 1 aging out next year. All of our Scouts save 1 either transferred from other troops, or had a brother in the troop. Major concerns if we are going to survive. and council is not helping.

My council has NEVER (emphasis) had an approved Cub Scout camp ground list. Closest thing we have would be the the Order of the Arrow's Where to Go Camping guide. That is what many packs in my area use. Good luck

I am wondering what the membership projection for court was. They pick a specific date for the report. Whatever their registration is on that date is, that is what they are recorded as. For example, the year my youngest crossed over. if they did the report in February 28th, he was listed as a Cub Scout. If they did the report on March 31st, he was a Scout.

Considering National has allowed someone in my neck of the woods to become an "Eagle" when there was clear proof that it was not earned because "you do not penalize the Scout for the actions of the adults" or words to that effect, I would go with it. This is an extremely controversial MB with folks on both sides upset with it. Those on the extreme right say it goes to far, and those on the extreme left say it does not go far enough.

Ah the good old days. In my neck of the woods that has not been happening in over 10 years. We are not allowed in the schools., and council has been no help trying to get into the schools. Last time recruiting was the topic of RT, the pro was talking about how they would sell us recruiting materials so we could do our own recruiting. No mention of the fact that we cannot even get into the schools.

Been happening in my neck of the woods for over 10 years. If memory serves, National put in their court documents that they want to go from 280 councils to about 90. And mergers have begun. Sad but true. And this further alienates the volunteers, continuing the downward spiral. Don't know about that. But at least in my woods, large numbers of experienced adults have left over treatment by pros. In too many instances, their knowledge, skills, abilities, and experience is irreplaceable. One of the great things about having a grea

This would kill some units. I know of council fundraisers that work extremely well in some areas of the council, but poorly in others because of demographics, geography, and sponsors. I remember "camp cards" that one council was selling, and not a single vendor on the card was located within the district. No body wanted to spend $20 to $30 on a card they could not use. Every council is different, and changes occur within councils with each SE. What may be allowed today, may not be tomorrow. My SE had already stated that a council board member would be appo

Stupid question regarding My understanding is that post-1976 insurance covers both councils and COs in addition to National. So why wouldn't the councils and COs be covered?

If memory serves, the 2019 World Scout Jamboree was a net loss for BSA.