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I've learned to live with binders through my job. Because the medical field is constantly changing, policies and procedures change on a regular basis. Heck I remember a few years back, we changed one policy twice in a 4 month period!

Lots of possible reasons. With the CS den and the youngest, he hated sharing my attention with the others. Kinda jealous that the others had their parents or grandparents working with me and the Cubs, and he had to share. Didn't matter that we would do a lot together at home. I admit he was one of the reasons why I went to Boy Scouts early, because he would behave and learn more without me there. And I was right.

We do. Unfortunately appointed by the SM. They mirror the troop level PORs, i.e Scribe, QM, etc and the idea behind it is that it trains them for troop level POR,. Idea does work, my troop growing up had the PL assign positions, and they helped get them trained.

Well I talked to son some more about the camp out idea. For the most part, he likes the idea of getting the NSP away from everyone and being completely on their own. He does feels obligated to stay with them instead of going back to his old patrol that weekend since they are his responsibility. Can't fault him for that one bit. I briefly talked to one leader about it, one who has a son in the patrol. "About time" was his comment. Going to talk to the SPL, or if oldest wants to do the talking, then let him talk to the SPL about the idea. On a side note, gotta make sure the helicopter pa

Council advancement committees decide whether to di unit based EBORs with a district rep, or District EBORs. You don't follow the procedures, the paperwork can be delayed until done by the council policy. Growing up, the Scout always introduced himself, stated his current rank, and requested a _______ BOR. That was for all BORs. Eagle was done on the unit level with at least one district rep.THANKFULLY I HAD TWO DISTRICT REPS! ( emphasis and another story for another time). It wasn't until I moved to my current council that I heard of district level BORs, and SMs introducing the Eagl

Be advised of the following. 1) National training Committee has come out and stated it does not matter what color centennial trained patch you wear. So Cub leaders can wear the centennial tan and green and Boy Scout leaders can wear the centennial sized red on tan. So you do not need to change your trained strip once you get the POR specific training 2) When the literature came out in regards to the centennial uniforms, it stated that the older uniform items, aka "Oscar de lea Rentas" and "ODLs", and the Centennial Uniforms items were interchangeable. So you don't need to change the n

BLW2, My troop growing up was one of those with minimal adults active, basically enough to get the Scouts and gear to and from the camp. When I was PL/TG of the NSP during testing, I didn't run to the adults for help, I ran to my SPL, ASPL and a few other older, LC members. You wouldn't go to the adult campsite because that was a bad sign, unless SPL. The Adults campsite was comparable to going to the principle in school. Ditto if they came into your campsite, other than to sample the food

Actually not my first time with NSPs. My troop was one of the troops that experimented with it in the mid to late 1980s, before it became official in 1989. I was placed as PL, what today would be called the TG back in 1986 - 1987. The NSP concept was so bad with my troop, that we abandoned the idea, even when it became BSA policy. Idea came about again with my troop when we had another, brand new trip decide to piggy back with us. Within 6 months, the two troops merged, and we did away with the NSP by reorganizing patrols. Basically the plan I proposed with to the other adults. I kno

Fred, The large influx of new Scouts in December refers to the potential to have 14 - 24 new Scouts coming from 2 packs. One pack has 14, and we may lose a few to a neighboring troop since their CO no longer has a pack (troop's leadership is OK with this). The other Pack has 10 Webelos, but has very limited relations with their CO's troop, despite repeated attempts and begging to get the troop involved in ANY way with the Webelos. Troop didn't even do Scouting for Food or Scout Sunday at the CO with the pack.

Back. Talked to oldest about using a planned trip to isolate the patrol from the rest of the troop, and keep the adults away. He thought it is a good idea, and may work. Then when I mentioned he would go back to his old patrol his comment was "OOOOHHHHHH. Can I bring a video camera and tape it?" Thank you all for the advice and recommendations. Please keep them coming. Sometimes you get so wrapped up in a situation, you don't see the alternatives.

Qwasze, Nope, you are spot on. 2 years in the troop, 1yr 6 months as a committeee member; 7 months as an ASM, although 2 months of that was limited due to injury. Oh Son was a PL prior to being SPL. Fred, Understand completely. We have a parents who are former CS leaders we are trying to reign in. One idea an ASM is doing is card games for the adults. We actually had 1 new crossover leader join in the game and not shadowing his son. And elevated blood pressure is an understatement. As for organizing a patrol meeting, that was the troop guide trying to do that. He wanted a meeti

Actually me yelling at them DID throw all of them off. It also threw off the rest of the troop, and the adults. One of my friends stated, " I've never seen you get that angry in the 7 years I've known you. And you dealt with Cubs." We tried to get a patrol meeting outside of the troop night and we met fierce resistance from the parents. A patrol only camp out may not be feasible, especially with how many camp outs the troop does a month. BUT we got a camp out coming up that may be the perfect, if we have the area to ourselves. Local nature preserve has several campsites 90 to 500+ yards

The way the patrols are set up, we have an "older " Scout patrol with seven 13-15 year olds in it; and two "NSPs," according to BSA's definition i.e. not yet First Class. One "NSP" has been around 2 years now, and is comprised of 12-13 year olds. It has That is the patrol my son the TG came from, and they have their act together. I going to call them the 'experienced" scouts to make it easier The other "NSP" is the one we are having issues with. Concern is that the keeping the two good patrols intact and dividing in half the troubled NSP would A) make overly large patrols and B) th

Best person to ask would be your FD. I know back in the day when I was a DE, I wore silver all of the time. Even with the three units I was listed as a leader for (summer camp's Explorer post/ Venturing crew; HA base's Sea Scout ship; and my service club's CS pack). Grant you, two of those units were job related. When I worked for national however, my manager wanted my employee uniforms and volunteer uniforms separate.

So I'm splitting from the "Signs that your unit might be adult led" thread. Not going to try and repost stuff from over there. I do think having multiple groups coming in at different times is part of the problem. Especially since the three different packs had three different leader/parent models, especially on the Webelos level. One pack had a DL who started BS leader training early, has a lot of outdoor experience, and started the "transition" as Webelos 1s. Second pack had a similar leader and similar expereinces. The Third pack however, was heavily leader run, even at the Web

I'm splitting off to give this topic it's own thread. I think we've gone off topic.

One thing I forgot to add. The SPL had me work with them while he and the older scouts planned their AT trip. I role played the situation of the missing duty roster and how to solve it. I modeled how we did things back in the day, i.e. pairing an "experienced Scout" with a "new Scout" so that the older Scout taught the younger one. Most of them heard for the first time that the troop is expecting anywhere from 14 to 24 new Scouts in December, and that THEY will need to step up and work with them as THEY should know how things should be done. At first they were shocked, but then it went awa

Stosh, I try to keep an open mind. So no, I won't ignore. I do think I need to adapt. I'm use to adults staying out of the way of the Scouts, interjecting only for safety purposes. And obviously this isn't working. Heck my son even said it last nite when we talked to the situation. He said they won't listen to anyone "except the adults and possibly the older Scouts." Wish I still had my 3d edition SMHB, because I remember a training regime in it that may work. I guess I'm the one keeping the situation together at the moment. Not so much for fun, it's not, but more to keep the other t

Yes, one reason why I'm glad the SPL took over and let me calm down. And then when I saw that he was getting agitated I stepped in again since I was calm. You would think that dealing with the exact problem at least 4 months in a row, no/missing duty roster on the trip, they would heed the advice of their SPL, and the adults who had have to get involved when they got out of control. SPL asked me to work the situation last night while he dealt with the older scout patrol. So we role played and demonstrated how it ad uty roster can be created within 7 minutes, and that included going off on

Again, the BSA's lack of consistency shows it ugly face again! i know your state is on BSA's Website, but so is the "Meet the age requirements. Be a boy who is 11 years old, or one who has completed the fifth grade or earned the Arrow of Light Award and is at least 10 years old, but is not yet 18 years old." I made ( color added to show the three separate sentance that make up this compound sentence. ) http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/2016BoyScoutRequirements_8.14.2015.pdf

As you know, my troop is HEAVILY adult run, and I hate every minute of it. Our NSP is having so much trouble, that I was appointed the NSP ASM. Did I mention I HATE NSPs because they tend to be Webelos IIIs? This weekend was interesting. NSP had the same repeated problems and PL would not take responsibility. No one would. I went off. until the SPL took over, let me calm down, and then I went back to them because the SPL was beginning to go off on them. For whatever reason, they won't listen to the PL, whom they elected, nor the TG, who voluntarily left this patrol to help them out because the

The challenge is that the BSA HAS changed who can be involved in Scouts since the statement above was originally made. Requirement 1 of the new Scout Rank requirements states the following: Meet the age requirements. Be a boy who is 11 years old, or one who has completed the fifth grade or earned the Arrow of Light Award and is at least 10 years old, but is not yet 18 years old. So using that requirement we have 3 different starting points: A) 11 years of age B) completed 5th grade C) Earned AOL and is 10 years old. I don't like this. I think something similar to Venturin

This may seem odd, but I understand where the age minimums come from. When I did BA 22 way back in the day, we had someone with an age waiver do the program. 12 years old and a brand new First Class Scout. The kid was a major burden on an already challenging patrol situation ( 13 and 14 year olds from all over the council) and could not hack the program. he deliberately infected his blisters in order to avoid the backpacking portion of the program.

Thanks for the offer, but we have plan B going. 1 Weekend prep trip in May ( and I get to go on too ) 1 seven day trip on the AT in July, and hooking up with the original contingent leader's old troop that has spots for 2017.

AMEN. My troop has had some real issues of late. In regards to challenges, when one NSP member complained about the lack of challenging campouts of late, another member said "quit complaining. We want easy camp outs." Not happy about that. Found out the Philmont trip is cancelled due to lack of leadership being able to go ( VERY LONG STORY). BUT we already had a weekend trip planned and are still going. Same guy who did the prep trip planning, approached the group with an idea to do a 50 mile section of the AT. Catch is that some folks who were not qualified for Philmont wou