Eagle94-A1

Growing up, we didn't have a feeder pack for a while. So a new scout would not get anything until A) Registration fee was paid, B) current with the troop's monthly dues and C) He earned his Scout Badge. As soon as he earned his Scout badge, we invested him in our troop in a formal ceremony. He received a troop neckerchief which was custom made, a woggle or slide, a troop totem, and his Scout Badge. Transfers into the troop would be invested as soon as the transfer fee and monthly dues were paid. I got invested on my 3rd meeting (they had to make some more neckers, hence the wait).

Most of you know the situation. For those who don't brief recap. We have a "Lem Siddons situation" in that the SM is in his 70s, has major medical conditions that require him to have oxygen. He'll bring 2 tanks with him when he camps, and I found out that one of the reasons the Scouts decided on a bunch of local camp outs is because of his health. When he restarted the troop, the SM was the only adult who was there all the time as the primary ASM was also CM Today the primary ASM, who is a church member, is willing to step up since he is no longer involved with Cubs. I've switc

To answer your question, no ADL as no other tiger parents would step out to help. Quite different form other two experiences where all of the parents helped in some shape or form. Heck the parents from the two previous dens ended up as CM, CCs, MCs etc. But trying to get the parents and grandparents involved was like pulling teeth. As to why, lots of reasons, but I'll need to go into details later.

Funny thing with the trespassing call. It was an ECOH, and we had our congress critter at the COH. One reason why it went over ( you know how long winded politicians can be, especially in an election year ). And the officer that responded to the call was an ASM in the troop. He actually asked two of us if we saw anyone fooling around the property that didn't belong.

In the situation I mentioned, it was not a struggling CO; it was one of the local social groups that was the CO. New leadership wanted to have nothing to do with the Scouts. If memory serves the IH gave the unit a time limit to remove everything from the meeting space and shed. Someone from council, I am assuming the DE, tried to intervene and save the unit. When it didn't work, the pro asked for the equipment as a donation. That's when the IH realized the CO owned the equipment. One of the CO's officers was involved in a different troop. When he found what the new IH planned to do, he in

My understanding is that Scouts on BORs was part of the Improved Scouting Program that came about in 1972, and is one of the 3 things I think ISP got right ( Skill Awards and the Leadership Corps being the other two). Scouts on BORs went away in 1989, but some troops didn't get the memo. I was sitting on BORs up until 18. I don't know how it was suppose to work, but with my troop you had to be either a member of the PLC or Leadership Corps to sit on a BOR for the T-2-1 ranks. PLs could not sit on a BOR from a member of their own patrol. SPL would sit in on PLs BORs. I know some thi

OK I' wasn't able to finish last night what I started with the "Run For Your Life!" quote. That was meant as a joke. In all seriousness, there is a publication that national created for weekend Webelos camp outs. I believe it's called Webelos Woods. I know that when my friend started doing Webeloree, he was given a copy and used it. I'd ask your DE for one. 1 thing I've done when planning events is get ideas from others. "Ripoff and Duplicate" or "R&D" as one friend of mine calls the following: do google searches, in your case Webeloree or Webelos-ree or Webelos Woods, gather the

There was a CO that, for whatever reason, was going to get rid of their troop. Despite being a hands off CO, when they discovered they legally owned the troop money and gear, they got dollar signs in their eyes. SM and troop committee did the following: 1) found new troops for their scouts to join. 2) Sold troop equipment for pennies on the dollar. My troop was able to get 2 tents and other gear out of it. Wish we could have gotten more, but the sale was offered to only those troops getting the Scouts, and amount of gear was based upon numbers joining the troops. 3) Paid off any b

I admit, I got burned out on Cubs after 6 years. It was no longer fun, parents or grandparents didn't help, and I was doing a lot more than being a DL for the pack. I was also their temporary UC, but that has been protracted for a few years now. Being the CS RT commissioner as well as CSDC PD have not helped either. Also othe r district level stuff have hurt as well. My son's troop needed more adults attending meetings and working with the Boy Scouts. It gave me a reason for changing from DL to MC in the pack. I still see my guys at major functions, and am looking forward to Webeloree in a

To quote the 9th Doctor: "RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!"

Yeah, I never heard of an "Eagle Advisor" until the past few years. It was always up to the Eagle candidate to find out what needed to be done and make sure the i's were dotted and t's crossed. If he had questions, the SM was the man to go to. IMHO, the EBOR is a big deal. It is not something that should be slapped together last minute. As to how it's done, I've got mixed emotions, at least in my neck of the woods. On one hand, it is nice to know that the district EBORs are on the 4th Thursday of every month. But I don't like that they limit the number of EBORs they will do on a night.

Growing up, it was done as needed and based upon the EBOR and the Eagle candidate's schedules. Between the night I finished my last requirements for Eagle, and the actual EBOR, it was 1 month and 12 days. Between my school schedule and the district advancement chair's, that was the earliest it could be done. One of my friends had it worse. Between completing and the night his EBOR was scheduled it was almost 4 months. He actually missed the 3 months after turning 18 deadline, and had to appeal for an EBOR, I believe to council. I think he had a good excuse. He had to go to basic training.

Like I keep saying, I gotta "knock it off with them negative waves."

I haven't mentioned it at all to the CC. He only comes around for BORs, and the last time I talked to him, it was about another issue. As for the SM, I've mentioned it to him and others, but with no emphasis on youth signing off. I've been focusing on other issues, specifically getting the troop to be more youth run, and riding herd on the NSP. I've been focusing on getting the SPL to plan and organize meetings, and getting him to find Scouts with the knowledge, skills, and abilities (KSAs) to lead instruction. While we got along way to go, at least we don't have an adult lecturing at all the

I was in one of the troops testing NSPs in 1986, and it was a complete and total disaster. We went back to mixed aged patrols. We essentially tried NSP again when a brand new troop asked to tag along with us until they could get started on their own. That troop was a one patrol troop, essentially an NSP, and it was a disaster again. the two troops ended up merging., and the NSP was disbanded. Again my experience with NSPs has been negative, especially this last go around. As for troop guides signing off on rank, that is a personal comment on the situation in my troop. Adults sign off o

WOW!

One reason why I don't like the NSP concept. Also why i like youth signing off on the S-T-2-1 requirements.

Maybe I'm old school, or maybe I'm just heavily influenced by my troop growing up. Only elected POR that had specific requirements was SPL: First Class Scout and had served as a PL. ASPL had the same requirements. PLs and APLs could be any rank. While the troop level PORs: QM, Scribe etc didn't have rank requirements, usually the Scouts in those positions were members of the Leadership Corps, and they were usually First Class or higher.

@@meyerc13 You'd be surprised what the Webelos want to do. My troop used Wilderness Survival as a recruiting tool. The first time we did it was a complete fluke; most of our gear was destroyed and we had to come up with something the night before the campout. Wilderness Survival it was, and so successful was the campout, it became an annual event. Also my son saw a video his den chief made of survival shelters and snow. HE ATE IT UP! He started building shelters in the yard, and his first campout as a Webelos, he did a shelter.

Actually they are planing steak dinner for the next camp out. to paraphrase the 2nd ed BS FB: Cooking a steak over an open grill? Now that's perfection !

A few years back, I saw some green pants at Walmart that were 99% identical to the current Boy Scout pants. the 1% difference was that they were hemmed. Like Stosh, I too am using pants and shorts from the 1990s still. I do have a pair of the original Switchbacks, the ones that were sized to large and had the zippers at the ankles. Ebay is my friend, find oldr uniform items there. Also OA trading post at family camp had some old uniform items.

Actually nope, Walmart Express closed them down, before the Walmart Express closed down. What I liked about neighborhood troops was that the entire patrol could meet and shop as a patrol. No one person had to do the shopping, and usually we would get some splurge items for the camp out if we had money left over.

I admit, I've been negative of late. I'm tired of seeing the same problems over and over again. But more importantly as a dad I am tired of seeing my son get frustrated by both the Scouts he's working with, and with the adults. And that does include me. So I'm going to "knock it off with them negative waves," and be a proud dad for a change. Then I'm moving on to the proud leader. Son is doing an outstanding job, all things considered. He's taking care of his patrol, working with individuals as needed. He is encouraging those who need it, and correcting those who need correction. Talki

Tell me about it. Good news is that the it looks like that particular scout will not be buying food again for the patrol. Next two up for shopping are folks who actually do the shopping, although the dads do help, i.e. drive and push the carts. Last one to do the shopping before the troop reorganization, and from talking to some of the older Scouts that looks to happen, Oldest wants to take shopping. It's one of his friends, lives down the street, and last time dad did the shopping since he was sick. Yep dad did the shopping and dropped off the food. I so wish the troop was an old sch

Forgot to add, there was one comment that has been bugging me. When the patrol announced steaks for dinner, one of the ASMs, whose son is in the patrol, made the comment, "If (son) has to get the food, momma aint buying steak." This is from someone who knows better too as he has been fully trained and is an Eagle.