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I assumed that the adults would provide the Bot Scouts with adequate instruction on what was expected.

Thats the way it should be

ya know I bet a Scottish kilt and a class A shirt would look kinda Bad A$$

Krampus thanks to you and your CO for doing the christian thing and leading a hand to those who need it. you guys did your good turn that day.

in reguards to the last statement that is also reprehensible.

If the Chaarter is in violation of BSA. You have to follow all scout laws not just reverence. There is also obedience.

I am not christian. That doesn't mean I am not reverent. you confuse your traditions with reverence.

Apparently you did however. Really the first comment sound as if a 6th grader wrote it. Otherwise it is classic homophobic stereotypes that you can demean someone. For some reason I truly think you can run a scout PT program without this type of motivation.

It might be useful if you have a parent in the troop that is former military to act as a liaison between the troop and the recruiters.

sleeping in a cave is reasonable for campout as others have stated however if it is a hotel in a cave thats a different story. Even if you only camp as a troop 4 or 5 times a year you can still get the merit badge it will just take longer. If you think it too low ask the SM an PLC to step it up. Its not a race to eagle.

ld be integrated into scouting.

Yep Pack Leader

Our Cub scout troop did hand out toy and such. I routinelytold my son do you part but dont do it just so you can get a nerf rifle. As we where crossing over I told the PL that I think the incentive should be functional Items that would be useful as boy scouts. Compasses, fire starters and the like. I hope she took my advice.

BP created scouting to ensure that young men had basic outdoor living skills. JB What you define as Scouting has only one thing in common with scouts in that it has the word scout. I would like you to review my previous post and read carefully. You say "I'm not advocating some sort of para-military organization, just using the skill set of a military scout. Remember, although trained in weaponry, a scout is not there to engage the enemy, just check out where he is and report back. I'm thinking this is why the word scout is so important." The skill set of a military scout? I dont think we need INTEL and CRYPTO merit badge requirements. Why are you surprised that a young man that attained Eagle would succeed in the military? this is exactly what the military is looking for a person with survival skills, with an understanding of the world around him and has and leadership experience. What about a youth that is really not into the military but whats to serve in another capacity either the peace corp where BSA skills would greatly enhance the young mans ability to succeed or as many youth in my area will attend universities that are DARPA centers. it concers me that you say you are civil air patrol but not a combat vet. Yet you want to impart military thinking on scouts. In short the BSA traiing and merit badge system builds good citizen. If that citizen desires to serve in the military then the BSA will give that youth (girls included via Venturing) the skill required to excel in that career path.

I think the new computer merit badges are a reflection of the needs of the military cyber warfare. they cant find kids that can code right out of high school anymore.

I am a Vet I was never a scout. But now I am a Scout Dad. I was a vet long after Vietnam. I served from 1988 until 2000. Several of the scouts in my troop want to pursue the military as after high school. I will assist and encourage the boys who want to make that choice. Do we do some militaristic things in scouting absolutely. however the scouting program is also fine for boys that do not want that career. We teach skills that can be applied for the military if the boy chooses. As of this writing my son has indicated that he wants to join the USAF and has his MOS. OK what merit badges would apply for that MOS so when you hit the school you dont get dropped: All Eagle requirements hiking and swimming Scuba rifle Shotgun etc... But if I had a scout that came to me and said I was watching project runway and I want to do that.... OK let make sure you are on a path to Eagle you will need those skills for business textiles leather work entrepreneurship Art Both are valid goals for the boys. Our job i think is to prepare the boys so they have the best chance at success in whatever choices they make.

When I had become an atheist (around the age of 12, I started reading the Bible and very quickly realized that I couldn't believe what I was reading), I toyed for a few minutes with every Christian teenager's wet dream of total hedonism by being an atheist*, but I immediately realized that that was a false concept. So since neither Christianity nor the Bible would be my guide, what would? The answer came to me immediately: Scouting. Every moral precept that I could ever need was embodied in the Oath, Law, Motto, and Slogan. Decades later when I read that Baden-Powell quote, it certainly looked like he was referring to the Ten Commandments as governing by "don't" and hence was demonstrating that the Scout Law is actually superior; am I the only one or did anyone else also see that? BTW, I'm still a big Boy Scout. A 61-year-old Boy Scout. OTOH, I have no use for BSA, Inc. I view BSA as being more an enemy of Scouting than promoting it. BSA does not live nor operate by the Oath and Law and they constantly endanger Scouting by creating discrimination lawsuits and alienating sponsors and donors. I wish that BSA would just go away so that an actual Scouting organization could take its place. { * FOOTNOTE: Having been involved in creation/evolution since 1981 and in contact with fundamentalists since 1970, I have had a lot of dialogues with fundamentalists. One theme that keeps coming up is that if God doesn't exist, then there is no morality and we can do whatever we want. Absolutely ridiculous, but that is what they insist upon most emphatically. A local creationist activist claims to have been an atheist, but he never was. As he describes it in his own writings, as a teenager he accepted evolution and "became an atheist" (HINT: no such decision is necessary) just because of his bubbling hormones. In reality, it was his own religious training that had offered him that legal loophole, not evolution. And in reality, he never was an atheist, since he admitted to me that he prayed to God every night during his "atheism". Using atheism as an excuse to misbehave is a Christian practice, not an atheist one. } Why do christians claim to have the sole authority on morals? Qwaze : While your pastor may have had the ten best ways to live and wow that looks like the scout code. the scout code also reflects well with Bushido which is an offshoot of Buddism. (kinda it a little more complecated than that really) What I object to is those of you that want to force christainity on scouting. Christanity is not the only means to god. Scouting is not about the bible scouting is about scouting an ensureing that the scouts have a moral code that is outside of scouting to support the scout laws.

my 0.02.. I think sewing is an important skill however the results from most boys not interested in sewing should not be on a dress uniform. using a needle and thread for a pack or a tent is one thing insignia that is misaligned and sewn haphazardly while at a consulate discussing world citizenship another.

Umm Be prepared? Be prepared for the max amount of interest in an event that was heavily advertised. My troop did not attend and as a new scout parent I held my tongue in questioning the SM in his decision. I see he had the right insight.

the question is who voted hate ?

I voted for I love the BSA. if i didnt think it was a good program would I allow my child to participate? he has found a niche where he is succeeding and want to apply himself. Now if i could only get him to study math as much as his first class requirements.

My wife and i had the misfortune of having an infested hotel room in which she was biten. It turns out that I seem to be unaffected b bed bugs where as she was highly allergic. She required several rounds of medical procedures and is still terrified of bedbugs. the psychologial factor is sometimes more that the physical. My luggage and clothes from that vacation stayed in plastics bags until winter and luckily we had a harsh one. Depending on your environment and location if the neighbor house of this lad is infected there is nothing the boy or is family can do. dont be too rash. these things are damn near impossible to eradicate. Chemicals are becoming useless on them. I think your Y may be onto something.

One of the reason Baden Powell created the Scout Guide was that his soldiers under his command where showing up to his outpost in Africa without proper knowledge because every one was a shopkeeper. Where else are our young men going to learn these skills that are imperitve in becoming a well rounded male?

Actually tennis was invented so boy and girls could play together. It was the original sports mixer.

Well said!