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That workaround faded after one summer here. It became so popular that the volume of paperwork for doctor offices soon led to service fees (in our case first $5 then $10, not bad). But word got around and their legal advisers ixnayed the altering of the physical exam date to a date when no appointment was made and hence no exam conducted. Fraud? Glad to hear this workaround works elsewhere, but I think one or more groups need to flex here, otherwise all the kids will be allowed to do in summer is "safely" play Xbox . Another $0.01

That is the quandary. The BSA and ACA (American Camp Association) requires a physical exam (health evaluation) no more than a year before camp while many health insurers will only pay for a physical exam no more frequently than one year (two years for me ). I have heard rumors that the ACA might tighten requirements to 6 months particularly for those with asthma and other existing conditions. There is your pediatrician's schedule. There is the camp's schedule, i.e., they need the forms 2 or 4 weeks in advance to review medical histories and develop any health management plans. And around here

Followup: Scouts Canada "files" independent audit by KPMG CBC News Posted: Jun 25, 2012 11:35 AM ET http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/06/25/scouts-canada-reports.html Steve Kent, chief commissioner and chair of the board of governors for Scouts Canada, says the review by audit firm KPMG "found no systemic intent to cover up or hide incidents of abuse," though it did uncover cases where the youth organization did not handle incidents "with the rigour we would expect." "When the organization's child and youth protection policies and practices were recently challenged,

Excellent... '...we have of late, we Americans, to our detriment, come to love accolades more than genuine achievement. We have come to see them as the point and were happy to compromise standards, or ignore reality, if we suspect thats the quickest way, or only way, to have something to put on the mantelpiece, something to pose with, crow about, something with which to leverage ourselves into a better spot on the social totem pole. No longer is it how you play the game, no longer is it even whether you win or lose, or learn or grow, or enjoy yourself doing it Now its So what does thi

maybe Astronaut Michael E. Fossum (still like Mike Rowe) "Fossum made two flights aboard the Space Shuttle Discovery to the International Space Station. On a third trip to the space station, he joined two Russian cosmonauts. He is currently a scoutmaster in Houston and remembered his time spent as a Boy Scout at Camp Perry, learning first aid skills. Scout stuff is real stuff, Fossum told the boys. About a month ago, Fossum said he witnessed a car accident where he was able to use skills he learned as a Boy Scout to help treat the victims for shock after he dialed 9-1-1." h

I don't recall stating an interpretation; Blue Water Scuba's policy was (still is?) what I quoted, be it good or bad, dumb or smart that's part of this thread's discussion. I did ask two questions about adult supervision and one about safety changes since.(This message has been edited by RememberSchiff)

'One person pleased to see this first major crack in wall of the national organization is Bill Van Faasen, chairman of Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts. Also an Eagle Scout, he was the incoming president of the Boston Minuteman Council in 2001 when it became the first major council to include sexual orientation in its non-discrimination policy. Van Faasen said Turleys statement makes a change of policies by the Boy Scouts even more inevitable because corporate leaders on the national board cant have it both ways, running companies with inclusive policies while supporting others that do

Yes, but learn from our mistakes so we do not repeat them.

Blue Water Scuba - Boy Scout Discover Scuba Program http://www.bluewaterscubaoflogan.net/index.php?PID=8f7635bcd6&PGID=7b7f5943b2 Consider item 10. "10. Each diver will be paired up with a buddy and start their dive. We start in the shallows and when feeling comfortable, move to deeper water. Scouts have enough air to dive for 30 to 45 minutes. The buddy teams will explore everywhere while having fun while getting use to the scuba gear and skills. At all times a scuba instructor is only seconds away from any scout should assistance be needed. This is why our dive area is clearly

Update to scuba diving drowning at Bear Lake - parents filed lawsuit alleging "that the defendants failed to ensure the boy was properly equipped, dressed and weighted. It states that they provided defective equipment and did not manage, monitor or supervise the boys air supply. When the emergency situation arose, the parties failed to aid and properly rescue Tuvell (12yr old son) , the lawsuit alleges. "Defendant Corbett Douglas (dive instructor) and other defendants failed to prepare and implement an adequate dive plan," the lawsuit states. The parents claim all the defendants

I think Les Stroud is Canadian, not that there's anything wrong with that. Louie Zamperini would be a great roll model but he must be in his 90's. http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-243-297--13773-0,00.html How about Richard Tinnell, another busy talented young man, "...one of the original founders of JPFreek Adventure Magazine. He is also an experienced outdoorsman, survivalist, avid Jeep enthusiast, and Eagle Scout. His commitment to JPFreeks mission as an eco-friendly, environmentally conscious publication has been a guiding light in his continued design wor

"The Oregon Supreme Court on Thursday, June 14, ordered the unprecedented public release of more than 1,200 confidential files that detail sexual abuse of Boy Scouts by their troop leaders and others within scouting over a 20-year span beginning in 1965. The documents, also known as the "Ineligible Volunteer" or "perversion" files, are a subset of records that have been kept under lock and key by the Boys Scouts of America since the 1920s. The 20,000 pages ordered unsealed Thursday had been introduced as evidence in a landmark Oregon lawsuit in 2010. A jury awarded a record $18.5 mil

Good to hear, Ralston's experience is a great example. There are unfortunately an abundance of examples: Eagle scout does a spur of the moment solo hike in NH White Mts winter/spring thaw, two 14yr scouts with SM get lost hiking from scout camp,... Using examples of those their own age, might alter the following misconceptions: Can't happen (lost, injury) to me. Can't happen to us. Bring along my iPhone and iGoodTaGo Daypack definitely. I pack a little more - be prepared to hunker down for night due to injury, weather, getting lost (who me?). What time of day do most people rea

A Boy Scouts of America (Executive?) board member, James Turley, global chairman and CEO of consulting and tax firm Ernst & Young, stated "I support the meaningful work of the Boy Scouts in preparing young people for adventure, leadership, learning and service, however the membership policy is not one I would personally endorse, he said in a statement first reported by CNBC. I intend to continue to work from within the BSA Board to actively encourage dialogue and sustainable progress. http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/13/12201507-boy-scouts-board-member-opposes-anti-gay-poli

You may be right. (a younger) George Takei - Boy Scouts of America commercial. WARNING: RED Berets ahead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmnLYVNO5EE(This message has been edited by RememberSchiff)

Jamie Foxx, former boy scout, hip, kids know him, very talented, so talented that I doubt he would have the time. He would likely shake-up all the white conservatives who can't figure out how to attract Black, Hispanic, and Asian youth to Scouting. (This message has been edited by RememberSchiff)

bnelon44, I agree the Advancement Chairman/Committee schedule BOR's but there is no "invite" involved, at least not in my experience. The scout signs up for a scheduled BOR or waits for the next BOR. The AC does not chase after scouts who forgot either. As you point out, the scout learns to take responsibility. Another $0.01,

Inconsistent from one section to the next. Is advancement the responsibility of the scout(s) or everyone else? Does the SM have an advancement vision or does the SM help the scout form an advancement vision? Does the scout request/sign-up for a SM conference and BOR or is that an adult responsibility? Advancement is a journey or it is a destination (ranks) that needs to be "maximized" and tallied? Is advancement at the scout's pace, the group's pace, or a set pace, i.e., "practices that will bring each new Boy Scout to First Class rank within a year of joining, and

Wilderness Survival MB is still broken, WFA content is still not in First Aid MB. Fix both and make both prereqs for a SAR MB, then show me the remaining requirements which should include reading search reports of past lost scouts - what they did right/wrong, expense of search, injuries to all involved,... SAR MB is the right idea just do it right. Imagine Wilderness Survival back in BP's day, I bet scouts would be challenged to survive a solo overnighter (weekend) in each season, find game trails and build snares, or at least use the survival kit they assembled. IMO, more thought an

Boy Scouts review controversial anti-gay policy "...Boy Scouts of America spokesman Deron Smith said a resolution to amend the national policy to allow each Scoutings chartered group to set its own standards regarding gay members was turned in by a Scout leader from the Northeast before April 30, the deadline for submitting resolutions to the meeting. He said the resolution was read at the May 31 meeting." http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/06/12086046-boy-scouts-review-controversial-anti-gay-policy?lite

...where part of the profits go to sending kids to their 6 camps Nothing wrong with that, I wonder if each camp has a hockey program, eh? Good coffee (This message has been edited by RememberSchiff)

I can't fault Zach's efforts. I do wonder if his next step is to approach the VFW and the American Legion. That should be interesting. Small steps. My $0.02

Good interview of Zach Wahls, now there's an Eagle Scout. My $0.02 http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc-tv/47616385/#47616385

MSNBC picked up the news story, hurray! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47615409/ns/business-careers/#.T8aU1MVqHQp

http://kgmi.com/To-always-be-prepared-Boy-Scouts-start-welding/12989761?newsId=145838 good article, excerpts below. Scouting should offer strong hands-on vocational merit badges, I remember when schools had "shop" classes to allow students a chance to try carpentry, metalwork, electrical work, plumbing,..good stuff. "More than 140,000 new welders will be needed by 2019 to replace retirees and meet rising demand from natural gas drillers, steel producers, automakers and more, according to the American Welding Society (AWS). The group helped the Boy Scouts of America award its first