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Good photos, good thoughts. Thanks.

Hosted by the Transatlantic Council, April 25-27, 2014 http://www.tac-bsa.org/Program/Normandy Read that some east coast councils are forming contingents, likely a week long trip. Could be really interested if they started in Britain (Battle of Britain Museum, Dover, ...) , crossed the channel, hiked the beaches, visited the cemetery...emphasize history and sacrifice. My $0.01,

Thanks. In years past, this topic was more promptly and elegantly posted by Trevorum and others. For auld lang syne.

As the daylight now grows longer and brighter, may Scouting do the same. Happy Winter Solstice to all.

Maybe Cooking MB is a bit overdone. Simplify. First requirement, scout must be at least a First Class scout! Next, design the merit badge such that a First Class scout can complete the outdoor patrol cooking on a weekend outing. I think many troops would be hard pressed to find the time for their scouts to fulfill their various cooking requirements. Our troop has more than half our scouts trying to complete their Second and First Class cooking by summer and another six scouts want to earn Cooking merit badge in the coming year. 3 scouts/patrol/outing could pass Second Class cooking OR 1 scout/patrol/outing could pass First Class cooking OR 1 scout/patrol/(2 or more outings) could complete outdoor cooking for Cooking mb My $0.02

Seems a valid point. I think this dims the chances that the BSA will buy any $500 toilet seats from them...not even for the Summit.

Wow, assuming beforehand that someone else without notification would cover your unit from an adult leadership standpoint...that SM needs a talking to. I hope the Troop Committee discusses this. How did he get sign-off for a Tour Permit?

Glad you and your son are joining another troop. Hope your other Webs do the same. Good planning and execution requires communication and coordination and then there is not being prepared and lack of patrol and leadership methods, Random thoughts: Often I think trailers cause more problems than they solve. Either way the equipment needs to arrive with the scouts or ahead of the scouts. If there is an issue with trailer lights, that usually includes the BRAKE lights which makes it unsafe for day travel (particularly rainy day) too. Being old and grouchy, I would have been less Kind and said well you don't have two deep, unhitch and come back for your trailer later. My $0.02

From http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...914-style.html "Badges are not the only change for the Scouts; they now accept girls as well as boys, in a wider age range than in 1914, when members were aged 11 to 18. Now, young people between the ages of 6 and 25 can join. The modern movement awards in excess of 200 badges covering topics such as public relations, circus skills, world faiths and skateboarding. But Simon Carter, from the association, said that there were still similarities with the earlier curriculum." “In the early days, a lot more of the badges were vocational, whereas now they tend to be more hobby-based. But there are some elements which are unchanged since 1914. The basics of cooking over an open fire are still the same, so is the requirement to spend 30 nights away for the Camper badge − although a lot of the kit involved is now different. Children still want to learn things and be tested on them, and to be challenged. The wants and aspirations are the same then as now.†All the 1914 badges are listed at the end of the article...some great names.

This film shows a community sending WW2 veterans to Washington, D.C. to see memorial. This South Carolina scout troop decided to bring film to their theatre. Nice thought. “People don't get enough attention for what they did in the war and how they fought for us and what they went through for us to be free. So I think we should just acknowledge that,â€Â. I got a kick out of the scout's name, but you will need to read story http://www.wyff4.com/news/local-news/anderson-news/boy-scouts-bring-film-honoring-world-war-ii-veteranss-to-upstate/-/9654706/23442040/-/vxcb92z/-/index.html?absolute=true

http://www.scout.org/node/22180 Nelson Mandela - Gone Home! "The Scout Movement is a world leader in educating youth. Scouting inspires patriotism, sound moral values, courage, character-building, self-reliance and community awareness. It also motivates our young people to achieve their full potential." - Nelson Rolihlala Mandela (1918-2013) South Africa’s anti apartheid icon, Nobel prize laureate and a great supporter of Scouting, Nelson Mandela - passed away on 06 December 2013. Scouts from around the world have received this news with great sadness. Known dearly as Madiba, Nelson Mandela was the Patron of South Africa Scout Association. Scott Teare, the Secretary General of WOSM said: “He is and will remain a great inspiration for all Scouts around the world. Today, over 40 million Scouts join the rest of the world in mourning for this great loss and we pray for his soul to rest in peace.†Nice photo of Mr. Mandela wearing a necker correctly.

Spring 2014 work weekend flyer http://www.chicagobsa.org/document/help-make-owasippe-better-flyer/132810

Searching just our previous forums in 2005-2008 timeframe, I found some. Have aspirin handy. http://www.scouter.com/forum/council-relations/23141-hello-owasippe http://www.scouter.com/forum/summer-camp/15361-camp-owasippe-summer-2007 http://www.scouter.com/forum/council-relations/22975-goodbye-owasippe http://www.scouter.com/forum/summer-camp/15221-what-s-going-on-with-owassippe http://www.scouter.com/forum/council-relations/22996-chicago-the-grim-future-of-scouting http://old.scouter.com/forums/viewThread.asp?threadID=129632 http://old.scouter.com/forums/viewThread.asp?threadID=124597 http://old.scouter.com/forums/viewThread.asp?threadID=110007

A scout camp, perhaps the oldest, saved and restored. It took concerned scouters, local government, legal action, zoning, a change in council leadership, funding, and volunteers. "With its future secure, Owasippe Scout Reservation will receive $1 million in improvements before the next camping season, according to an official with the Chicago Area Council of Boy Scouts of America." "The future of Owasippe had been in question several years ago when the council had a $19 million offer from a Holland-area businessman for the property. But plans to sell the 4,800-acre property were derailed after the township board refused to adjust the zoning and a protracted legal battle began in 2006. The council argued that it had the right to do with the property what it pleased, and that it didn't have the money for necessary upkeep. The township ended up winning the legal fight, and the council brought in new leaders who were committed to preserving the 102-year-old camp." http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2013/12/boy_scouts_commit_1_million_to.html http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2011/07/owasippe_nations_oldest_boy_sc.html Hallelujah but IMO if council leadership had been changed first, the camp would have been restored years ago.

Thanks, but No thanks... Don't get me wrong, loved them coming, in 5 to 10 years would love to have them back, but it was too much to fast.. We were suppose to host them one year, have a break for a year, then host them again.. The first year did the scouts in, because the council was not prepared for such a large turn-out.. Council abused their service, 5 hours service then half a day off to enjoy part of the show turned into 10 hours of service with no breaks and expecting them to put in the same time the next day.. Our troop worked half the 2nd day then walked out when their volunteer shift officially ended. On top of that they promised to cater for the scouts who volunteered, they gave them nothing for lunch (go find it yourself on some 1/2 hour break).. Then Dinner was really, really bad.. hockey puck.. They were promised water & outhouses at the camp area.. It turned out to be one garden hose, and not enough outhouses for the people there.. The 2nd year was not the Blue Angels, it was an air force show but not Blue Angels.. They saw the turnout of our first year and somehow got the council to agree to run a show during the year we were to have a break.. Scouts did not want to volunteer for 2nd year, even though Council promised better, no one trusted them. I heard it was better, but don't know who they got to volunteer. By the 3rd year everyone was really, really tired of it, more scouts volunteered, having heard they had improved treatment of the volunteer force the year before, but after 3 years in a row those who came to the show had dwindled.. The first year it had been like 15 years since they came to our neck of the woods, by the 3rd year people had seen them or thought it would be yearly and they could catch it next year if they wanted to.. Daniel Webster Council (at least the volunteers in DWC) are happy for a break in the air shows.. I am sure the paid execs would love the income. "I am sure the paid execs would love the income." I never heard the exact dollar amounts, but apparently this significantly funded much new equipment at the Griswold Scout Reservation - sailboats, ATV's,... I believed you mentioned it in the old forum. And a couple years later, it didn't hurt DWC's SE in applying for the Cradle of Liberty Council SE position.

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I'm located within walking distance of the home base of the Blue Angels. They saved $28 million out of a normal annual budget of $40 million by not flying for most of the season. Not sure about the Boy Scouts and sponsoring an airshow. Sounds strange to me like it does to Papadaddy. Thanks for the correction. Cutting their 2013 season saved $28 million. Total cuts for the Navy was around $4 billion. Whew, or am I wrong again?

Perhaps strange, but stranger things have happened in New England. http://www.nh.com/archive/830113-333/portsmouth-hosts-the-boston-new-england-air.html http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111122/NEWS/111220387/-1/NEWSMAP

2015 Blue Angels air show schedule was announced. http://www.blueangels.navy.mil/media...131203_001.pdf There is no Portsmouth,NH date which had been a big fundraiser for Daniel Webster Council. There are other New England visits to Brunswick,ME , Westover ARB, MA, and North Kingston,RI. One surprise was to hear a council reject hosting the Blue Angels air show at St, Cloud,MN because it is scheduled for July 4-5 (ka-ching, ka-ching, $$$) ...we're too busy ???? What is there some critical Wood Badge activity in 18 months? Sure would be an embarassment if an alternative scout group stepped up! http://wjon.com/blue-angels-returnin...july-4th-2015/ As I understand, the Navy saved $4 billion in cancelling Blue Angels air shows during the mandatory budget cuts of sea-of-frustration (sp?). My $0.01

Agree with Nike. No disappointment, rather public pride and appreciation in this young man who chose to serve his troop and others first. Done good MattR. Scouting builds boys into men by many methods, not by just advancement. Plenty of very accomplished Life Scouts out here - Bill Gates Jr is just one.

I wondered if this was some mistake, that FEMA meant to fund hurricane shelters at Camp Geiger USMC. I'm having a hard time recalling any recent direct federal funding of improvements, safety or otherwise, to a scout camp. Donations of gallon cans 20 year old Civil Defense peanut butter, sure. Beats wasting the money outside the US. My $0.02

Utah lawmaker Dixon Pitcher is drafting a vandalism bill. Fines of $15,000 or more. Too late for these two. http://kutv.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_8415.shtml

FEMA funds 75%, Pony Express Council 25% "Camp Geiger is located on the bluffs of the Missouri River just north of St. Joseph. It's also about 150 miles south of a Boy Scout camp in Iowa where a tornado killed four boys in 2008. Pony Express Council officials say Camp Geiger's concrete shelters are expected to be built by December 2015. They'll include restrooms, showers, phones and other amenities for campers and visitors" http://www.komu.com/news/missouri-bo...nado-shelters/

A very bad idea, your troop will be adult-run in no time. Your SM misunderstands the methods of scouting. My $0.02

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