RememberSchiff

Update May 24, 2018:

Final arguments in the multiyear dispute over ownership of the Camp Richard Scout camp wrapped up in Barnstable Superior court Tuesday, with a decision on who owns the island property expected to be handed down by the end of June, when the presiding judge is set to retire.

The debate stems from the Cape & Islands Council of the Boy Scouts of America’s agreement four years ago to sell a portion of the property to Hingham-based Atlantic Development for $5 million, and efforts by local scouting groups – backed by the Nantucket Civic League (former owner of the property) and the Nantucket Land Council – to bar thesale.

Last year, Superior Court Judge Gary Nickerson ruled that Camp Richard should forever remain a “campsite for the scouts of Nantucket,” and must be transferred back to the Civic League if used for any other purpose. He also determined – without any evidentiary hearings – that ownership of the property was to remain in a trust controlled by the off-island council, in part because it was affiliated with the national Boy Scouts of America and the Camp Richard Campers Association, the local organization, was not.

http://www.ack.net/news/20180524/ownership-decision-of-camp-richard-due-end-of-june

Where is National's PR department? Hardly any press releases.

21 hours ago, FireStone said:

I carry a messenger bag, which I guess is sort of purse-like. 😄

 

I prefer to call it my Jack Bauer bag. 

As odd as it might sound,  anyone can buy condoms in West Virginia. "Condoms are not a drug, just a physical health product just like Band-Aids and cotton balls so they are not regulated like the pill or other birth control that changes your body chemistry. "

http://www.tobuycondoms.com/west-virginia/

56 minutes ago, Hawkwin said:

Hey Mods, since this thread was started on my tangent, I think it has long run its course (and then some).

Locked by request of OP.

@NJCubScouter , @John-in-KC

Ok then. The juvenil behavior has gotten tiresome. 

@NJCubScouter @John-in-KC

Please stay on topic, thanks

@NJCubScouter @John-in-KC

Keep it professional and respectful.

@NJCubScouter @John-in-KC

National Commissioner Service Chair Ellie Morrison?

Enjoy the show.

7 hours ago, JoeBob said:

http://www.wnd.com/2018/05/condoms-required-at-scouts-24th-world-jamboree/

It's been a long conversation with the moderators.

A response to above link. Note in this response,  Vice Chairperson of the World Scout Committee Andy Chapman is American. What remains unanswered is how

the hosts Scouts Canada, the Scout Association of Mexico, and the Boy Scouts of America will implement the requirements.  Will it be by hosts, nations, units,...? How will parents be notified (this was news to me!)?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/boy-scouts-condoms-jamboree/

And a link to WOSM Guidelines for Hosting World Jamborees

Original topic is still under moderator review. Please keep discussion professional and respectful. Thank you.

Let's get back in the USA and with more thoughtful, relevant responses to Mike Rowe's comments.

The enemy is bad (BSA) ideology, and the inability to effectively confront it. Do I favor co-ed Scouting? Hell no. I can’t think of a single good reason to put girls and boys in the same troop, the same tent, the same boxing ring, or the same game of British Bulldog. But I can think of many good reasons to include them in a unified effort to confront the siren song of “safe spaces.”

Someone has to challenge the insipid belief that safety is the most important part of living. Someone has to challenge the idea that feelings trump achievement. Someone has to challenge the idea that “crying closets” on campuses designed to console stressed out students who just can’t handle their finals exams, (or the outcome of a presidential election,) will produce a responsible, productive adult.

I hid the locked topic.

Perhaps @Gwaihir was referring to red neckerchiefs for Wolf.

Please stay on topic. Thank you. Previous content moved here

@Jenn, welcome to scouter.com.

Two phrases that all volunteers should know from the start:

No thanks. or simply NO.

Where is that written?

My $0.02

2 minutes ago, gblotter said:

Nothing published yet.

When LDS dropped Varsity and Venturing for older boys, it was replaced with a flexible church youth program that allows boys to pick from a wide variety of activities (sort of cafeteria style). Categories include spiritual, social, physical, and intellectual. What's missing are the badges and rank advancements (which some here decry as an impure motivation, anyway). If the new church youth program to replace BSA looks anything like that, I think we will be just fine.

It will be interesting to see if LDS re-purposes their existing BSA uniforms towards their new youth program. If not, imagine the economic impact to the BSA with all us thrifty scouts buying  pre-owned LDS uniforms.

@Ernest_Stevens welcome to scouter.com

I guess I'm old.

If your tent is on a platform, take out cots, sweep floor,  put down a 9x12 blue tarp, return cots to tents.

A camp tent with a wired outlet ?

Another $0.02

The statue of Chaffee now proudly stands outside of the Grand Rapids Children’s Museum, where his wife hopes children can be inspired to try anything they set their minds to.

He died in 1967 during a pre-launch test for the Apollo One Mission. Chaffee’s surviving wife, Martha Horn Chaffee, was brought to tears as a bronze statue of her husband was unveiled in downtown Grand Rapids.

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Chaffee is also remembered for his work with the Boy Scouts of Grand Rapids. He earned an Eagle Scout ranking in Troop No. 215, the same troop of President Gerald R. Ford. 

How many troops can claim their former members include a President and an astronaut, both Eagle Scouts?

Nice video.

http://www.woodtv.com/news/grand-rapids/roger-b-chaffee-statue-unveiled-in-gr/1188845011

@bob_kins , welcome to scouter.com.  Your Camp Director and Shooting Director will be your first choice,  though many here will gladly help.

As for specific advice for a Rifle Range Instructor, I would bring these personal safety items - shooting glasses, hearing protection (I like the Walker's electronic muffs), and lead cleaning wipes or soap (D-Lead, LeadOff) for your hands. Scouts should wash up after shooting!

What kind of shooter are you? Hunter, target,..? You might get a discount from Bass Pro if you can show that your a BSA Rifle instructor.  Ditto for membership with Shooting Sports USA .

Safety is job one! Keep all hydrated at range.  Keep it fun.

Note: If you type @ followed by a member name it sends a notice to that member. These members come to mind, lets see what advice they have.

@Oldscout448,  @Sentinel947, @cyphertext , @ShootingSports @Eagle94-A1

My $0.02,

On 5/7/2018 at 6:43 AM, RememberSchiff said:

Just a reminder for those of us whose invitation has yet to arrive    ...

https://nam.scouting.org/

Update: my invitation still has not arrived . I have not seen any notice of live streaming. 

On 11/29/2017 at 9:20 AM, RememberSchiff said:

 

So the first US scoutmaster was Mrs. Myra Greeno Bass? 

 

Above sign remembers Burnside, KY Troop 1, but was it the first Boy Scout Troop of Kentucky let alone the USA?  Frankfort Troop 1 also formed in 1908.

More info from the State Sentinel, Frankfort, KY . The CO of this Frankfort, KY Troop 1 was the YMCA and Mr. Stanley Harris  was their first Scoutmaster. Here is a photo of the troop taken behind the YMCA. Scoutmaster Harris is on left in third row.  But why the confusion - shoes, the court system,...

The same year that Harris started the boy scouts troop, 1908, a doctor told him he had heart trouble and would die within three months. Harris did not die until 68 years later in 1976. He organized the troop to go hiking, so he could regain his strength. It was later discovered that the “heart trouble” was just bad indigestion.

The State Journal Article from August 15, 1976, announced Harris’ passing. That article contains a quote where Harris recalled speaking to the doctor who told him he had three months to live. The doctor, Harris recalled, “told me to die peacefully and I told him I never did anything peacefully.”

A letter written in 1940 from Harris to Todd Crutcher Jr. states that on Jan. 9, 1909, Harris received a letter from Robert Braden Powell, head of the British Boy Scout Association. The letter, which was written Dec. 29, 1908, authorized the troop. However, the Boy Scouts of America does not recognize the authority of the letter, according to the April 1976 State Journal article.

It cannot be proven that the Frankfort troop was the original Boy Scout troop in America because the charter was lost. The charter was used in a civil lawsuit between the federal government and Excelsior Shoe Company, which was selling “scout shoes.” Once the lawsuit ended, the charter was filed in court records in Washington. However attempts to regain the charter were unsuccessful, according to the April 1976 State Journal article. One report said the charter was lost in a fire.

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More at source, excellent research by author Holly McClurkin

https://www.state-journal.com/2018/05/18/original-boy-scout-troop-reportedly-started-in-frankfort/

Just now, SSScout said:

The three words no SM wants to hear:   "HEY ! WATCH THIS !"   

But maybe they should.... 

What I want to hear  "WE DID IT!"