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  1. 38 minutes ago, InquisitiveScouter said:

    So many questions...

    Can those programs that now have the NRA FIRST Steps Pistol do that at a commercial range??

     

    https://www.nrainstructors.org/search.aspx

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    Note the Search at bottom

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    For NRA FIRST Steps Pistol, BSA Only or Youth Only, All Available, I found no courses in 6 New England states.

    Course availability needs to be examined further. There are fewer NRA/BSA instructors and some courses have a limited demand.

  2. 5/7/2024:  2023 Annual Report released.

    The Key 3 (President/CEO Roger Krone, National Chair Brad Tilden, National Commissioner Scott Sorrels) state

    We hope you will join us in this important work. Our nation, our communities and our future leaders need the values, grit, and leadership skills that Scouting instills. Your support is critical as our youth continue Scouting America.

    Includes membership numbers, no financial report.

    https://www.scouting.org/about/annual-report/year2023/

    P.S. Short on content, but might this also be submitted late as the Report to the Nation?

  3. Of course, a name change on 9/1/24. Effective September 1, 2024, Scouting’s Shooting Sports programs within all programs including Cub Scouting, Scouts BSA, Venturing and Sea Scouting will be referred to as Range and Target Activities.  No non-commercial club ranges - nationally authorized camp property’s range(s) or at a commercial firearm range only. Venture sporting programs have taken a hit..

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    [9/1/2024 Shooting Sports Program Updates

    Effective September 1, 2024, Scouting’s Shooting Sports programs within all programs including Cub Scouting, Scouts BSA, Venturing and Sea Scouting will be referred to as Range and Target Activities 

    Note: As a reminder, the updated Cub Scout program effective June 1, 2024 includes elective adventures versus awards for Cub Scouts. These elective adventures can still only be offered at an accredited camp program (day camp, short-term camp, long-term camp) or a council organized one day event. For information on delivering these new elective adventures, please visit the shooting sports website. 

    In addition, effective September 1, 2024, the following changes will affect the range and target activities within Scouts BSA, Venturing and Sea Scouting. All other current Scouting range and target activities policies as indicated in the National Shooting Sports Manual remain unchanged and must be followed. These changes will be reflected in the National Shooting Sports Manual on September 1, 2024 and will be updated periodically. Additional information regarding these changes can be found on the Shooting Sports FAQ website. 

    • Firearm programs may only take place on a nationally authorized camp property’s range(s) or at a commercial firearm range. This does not apply to district or council programs that utilize BB devices*, but applies to pellet rifles, airsoft (any type), rifles, pistols, shotguns, and muzzle loading rifles and shotguns.  
    • The use of personal firearms and personal ammunition is prohibited in all Scouting programs at nationally authorized camp properties. Personal firearms and personal ammunition may be used at a commercial firearm range, subject to restrictions regarding caliber, gauge, and action as described in the National Shooting Sports Manual and herein. 
    • At a minimum, all Scouts BSA troops, Venturing crews, and Sea Scout ships who provide unit-level sponsored/planned range and target activities must have at least one registered unit leader 21+ years of age take the Range Activity SAFEty online training. This trained adult leader must be present at the range. The training is recommended for all unit leaders in Scouts BSA, Venturing and Sea Scouting. Note this training does not replace the requirements for certified NRA firearms instructors and range safety officers. This training will be available beginning 9/1/2024. 

    More at source:

    https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/gss08/#a

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  4. From Newsweek

    "An online petition is calling for the Boy Scouts of America to reverse its planned name change...The name change, which is expected to go into effect on February 8, 2025—coinciding with the organization's 115th anniversary—sparked fierce backlash on social media."

    Sources:

    https://www.newsweek.com/boy-scouts-america-name-change-backlash-petition-1899301

    https://www.change.org/p/save-boy-scouts

  5. 12 minutes ago, AwakeEnergyScouter said:

    sapling

    Even if they're 2-3 m tall? I thought saplings were much smaller.

    Definitions vary, but generally a sapling is defined as within a diameter (less than 4-5 inches) at a certain height (4.5ft) aka the diameter breast height (dbh) and not by the height of tree. Saplings can be quite tall (over 10ft) depending on species, sun exposure, and soil condition.

    Height of Tallest Saplings in 10 year old Appalachia Hardwood Clearcuts

    https://www.fs.usda.gov/ne/newtown_square/publications/research_papers/pdfs/scanned/OCR/ne_rp381.pdf

  6. Canada wildfire destruction...and now an online tree planting fundraiser from Scouts Canada and Canada's Forest Trust Corporation (CFT) - $10 per tree with choice of tree and region but there's more...

    "Through a digital forest intelligence dashboard, Scouts and supporters will access custom impact data, such as the forest's location, age, species, estimated carbon storage, and a climate learning centre."

    https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/launching-the-canadian-climate-challenge-join-scouts-canada-and-canada-s-forest-trust-corporation-in-planting-millions-of-trees-857451690.html

    https://scoutrees.ca/

  7. 7 hours ago, AwakeEnergyScouter said:

    ... sometimes we ditched the tent when backpacking and brought two tarps to construct a lean-to either on private land with permission to take a few .. what's the English word for young tall tree about as thick as a wrist?

    sapling

  8. 21 hours ago, InquisitiveScouter said:

    Here're some additional random thoughts...

    - The Congressional Charter is for the "Boy Scouts of America."  (Congressional Charters do not mean much, anyway, but BSA likes to ride that hobby horse.)  Will this "charter" now be defunct?  Probably not, due to some legalese...

    - What will the new Eagle rank patch look like?

    Eagle Scout Rank Emblem

    - Will there, for the next few decades, be a bunch of "cool kids" with "BSA" on their uniforms versus "Scouting America"??  Will there be a run on buying up old logo uniforms?

    - What will we change the words to one of our favorites camp songs to?? http://usscouts.org/songs/ifiwerent.asp

    - Will there be a re-boot of the Fred McMurray classic, Follow Me, Boys! https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060420/  Will Kurt Russell reprise his role as Whitey, and now be the Scoutmaster in Follow Me, Kids!

    - Does my BSA memorabilia collection now increase in value?  (At least, the items that say "BSA" on them...) Is it time to insure my collection?? 😜 Especially stamps and coins:

    Scouts BSA Boy Scouts Set of 8 US Issued Scouting Stamps MINT Great Gift Idea - Picture 1 of 2

    BSA 2010 Centennial Silver Dollar, Proof in original box   cov - Picture 2 of 5

     

    - Will we have an "Auld Lang Syne" party to say goodbye to 115 years of tradition?

    Another random thought, it does explain why Jim Kirk was never a Boy Scout.

    https://y.yarn.co/193eb197-66ad-4b5c-843a-0519c7779c8b.mp4

     

     

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  9. 3 minutes ago, DannyG said:

    There is only one scouting organization in the US that serves all youth. GSUSA is Girl Scouts and Girl Guides. 

    Here are some scouting organizations in the US that unlike the BSA serve all youth, even atheists.

    Navigators USA - "The Navigators USA alternative scouting program was created to include everyone, and to help each person develop their fullest potential without discrimination. We aim to establish a world without prejudice or ignorance, and to treat every person with respect, no matter their race, creed, lifestyle, or ability. Navigators USA Is A Welcoming & Secular Scouting Program"

    https://www.navigatorsusa.org

    Outdoor Service Guides (OSG) - Formerly Baden-Powell Service Organization. they changed their name too in 2021.  "OSG believes that all people and all families should have an equal place in the scouting movement. We welcome scouts and their families as they come to us, and we will do our best to make scouting and its activities accessible to every child or adult who wishes to join.  We welcome everyone, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, religion (or no religion), or other differentiating factors.  We believe that scouting is for everybody. We welcome those who have scouted a long time and those who have never tried scouting before joining us."

    https://outdoorserviceguides.org/

    Spiral Scouts

    https://www.spiralscouts.org/about_us

    Another $0.01,

  10. 7 hours ago, FireStone said:

    I feel like the name change helps remove a distraction, the constant complaining from folks who still felt like the name "Boy Scouts of America" was some kind of mandate that girls not be allowed. Removing the basis of that argument ("Boy" in the main organization name) means there is no argument anymore. It's part of the org name, it's codified into the primary brand identity. It's done, we can (finally) move on from having to defend the contradiction in the name.

    I have found "duty to God" more of a stumbling block for potential members and their families than the name "Boy".

    “It (the rebranding) sends this really strong message to everyone in America that they can come to this program, they can bring their authentic self, they can be who they are and they will be welcomed here,” Krone said.

    Will atheists also be welcomed? Will the DRP be removed from the youth membership application (524-406)? Will the BSA Scout Oath (duty to God) and Law (A Scout is Reverent) be changed?

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    What was learned from girls BSA membership pilot program from 5 years ago that will be applied to this pilot program?

    A lot of questions.

    Another $0.01,

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  11. A broader welcoming?  a distraction? ... maybe a lifeboat for upcoming Supreme Court and bankruptcy decisions. Old brand sunsets, new brand rises.

    Remember the old 5 year plans with metrics (largely not met). Now we have 5 month plans developed from "surveys" with no metrics.

    How much will this cost? What youth membership numbers will we see by Feb, 2025. So is local option void? Patrol method? Does the Federal Charter for the BSA end?

    What restructuring will be done to improve efficiency and reduce costs? Could we start with completely new Bylaws?

    Will we see a return of past BIG corporate sponsors who left due to our past membership policies?

    My $0.01,

  12. May 2, 2024:

    "ST. LOUIS – U.S. District Judge Rodney W. Sippel on Thursday sentenced a former Boy Scout volunteer to 22 years in prison for hiding cameras in bathrooms at a St. Francois County, Missouri scout camp.

    Judge Sippel also ordered David Lee Nelson to pay $55,000 in special assessments that will go to a fund for victims and prevention programs and $6,810 to pay for counseling for the victims in this case. After he gets out of prison, Nelson will be on supervised release for life, with special conditions that include a prohibition against any contact with minors without permission.

    Nelson hid two cameras in bathrooms at the S Bar F Scout Ranch in St. Francois County in July of 2021 while working there as a volunteer. Nelson hid the cameras in paper towel dispensers, positioning them so they would capture a shower stall and other portions of the bathroom. 

    One camera was discovered when a scout leader and scouts were cleaning out one of the restroom stalls. A search uncovered another camera, and leaders then called the St. Francois County Sheriff’s Department. When questioned later by a sheriff’s deputy after being spotted near the bathrooms, Nelson lied and said he was looking for a cell phone charger that he’d left in the stall. 

    During Thursday’s hearing, victims and their parents said Nelson was supposed to be protecting the scouts and was supposed to be someone children could trust. Nelson’s crimes, they said, have now left them unable to trust others. The victims also said they now experience fear and discomfort every time they try to use a public bathroom. "

    ...

    More at source:

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-edmo/pr/former-boy-scout-volunteer-sentenced-22-years-prison-hiding-cameras-camp-bathrooms

     

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  13. The Marshall Project, according to their website, is a nonpartisan, nonprofit news organization that seeks to create and sustain a sense of national urgency about the U.S. criminal justice system....We don’t approach any issue with an outcome in mind. Our reporters examine all sides of an issue and follow the facts where they lead. We focus on criminal justice as an arena where power is often abused; our goal is to expose injustice.

    Article begins discussing the tragic Sarah Birchmore case in detail.

    Attorneys for the Boy Scouts responded by calling child sexual abuse a “broad societal problem.”

    “This abuse can occur anywhere, even in Scouting and Explorer programs,” the attorneys wrote in a court filing. They argued that the organization wasn’t responsible for the abuse she alleged because the officer had violated Explorer policies.

    ...

    In 2022, the Boy Scouts agreed to settle with more than 82,000 people, most of them men, who said they were abused as minors in Scouting programs. The Scouting organization did not say how many Explorer cases are part of the settlement, which is now about $2.5 billion.

    ...

    Michael Johnson, a former police detective who investigated child abuse, said he became alarmed by the sexual abuse in Explorer programs after the Boy Scouts hired him in 2010 as the national director of youth protection.

    “They have these Explorers with them riding around at night and the officers do a nonexistent-to-poor job of maintaining clear boundaries,” he said.

    He said he tried internally to root out abuse, especially on overnight ride-alongs, though he was also publicly promoting Scouting during those years.

    Johnson said the Boy Scouts fired him in 2020, and he became an outspoken critic of how the organization handled cases of abuse.

    ...

    Allegations of Explorer abuse did not always result in criminal prosecutions. Of the 156 officers identified by The Marshall Project who faced professional or legal consequences in connection with the allegations against them, at least two-thirds were criminally charged. Among those charged, about half were sentenced to time behind bars — from weekends in jail to decades in prison. And at least 20 had to register as sex offenders.

     

    More at sources:

    https://www.themarshallproject.org/2024/05/01/police-explorer-sexual-abuse-boy-scouts

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-explorer-boy-scouts-sexual-abuse-allegations-rcna145347

    https://www.exploring.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/LFL-safety-first-guidelines_final-copy_-28229.pdf

    https://www.exploring.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/ridealongcertification.pdf

     

  14. 4/26/24 Rally 4 Robby Trivia Night –  an event to benefit the purchase of a special track-style wheelchair to help a local Boy Scout, Robby Fisher, access his backyard and basement, as well as make it easier to participate in Boy Scout activities and camps with his Special Needs Boy Scout Troop 724...

    According to a SpotFund set up for Fisher, the Boy Scout camp he attends has an accessible campsite, but the rest of the camp is not accessible. In his second year of attending the camp, he was able to use a ‘Trackchair’ that allowed him more freedom to earn merit badges and even go fishing at the camp’s lake.

    “Robby has a huge love for camping and hiking throughout the year and not just at Summer Camp,” the SpotFund stated. “He really needs his own Trackchair to be able to meet his goals for Eagle Scout.”

    The chair would also make it easier for Fisher to access his backyard and basement at his home. Currently, whenever there is storm, Fisher and his family have to drive to Des Peres to an underground parking garage for safety, since they cannot access the basement.

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    more at source:

    https://callnewspapers.com/boy-scout-troop-hosts-trivia-night-to-support-troop-member/

  15. “Organizations like [the Scouts] are symbiotic in that the Scouts benefit from accomplishing their requirements, and the community benefits from the fruits of the Scouts fulfilling their goals,” said U.S. Army Lt. Col. Reuben Doornink.

    “Scouting has been a big part of my life through the years and being an Eagle Scout can help form near- immediate bonds. Scouting is similar to the military in that I know if my family needed something, I could put it in a chat group and have 10 people at my door,” said Doornink. “One thing that being a Scout taught me is, ‘Keep working on the task regardless of how daunting it may seem.’ I think the most important skill is to persevere toward a goal and learn a little selfless service.”

    Doornink is slated to retire from active duty in the next several years, with hopes to relocate with his family to Florida or back to the Midwest after leaving uniform. Until then, he plans to continue in his role as Scout leader with his sons and counts his Scout family as an inspiration to continue serving as both a Soldier and a Scout.

    “The [group of] people I have had the pleasure to work next to has been a blessing unto itself,” he said. “The cross section of people in Scouting varies and each leader brings a skill set that is unique to their occupation and interests [but] the team that converges to support the entire Scouting effort each and every day is remarkable.”

    More including photos at source:

    https://www.army.mil/article-amp/275699/soldier_scout_leader_midwest_native_builds_legacy_as_example_of_selfless_service

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  16. On 2/28/2024 at 6:33 AM, RememberSchiff said:

    Transparency and communication. 

    Report to the Nation. National Annual Meeting becomes the National Open Meeting.

    My $0.02,

    So far in 2024, there has been no news regarding our federal Charter-required Report to the Nation though I heard of some Reports to State which BSA National encourages.

    No word yet of any live feed (e.g. youtube) of any parts of NAM. Let's go digital!

    I prefer, unfiltered direct conversation with Mr. Krone and Mr. Pounder, preferably with an opportunity to send in our questions and feedback.

    Please no more filtered,  condescending after event reports - 5 Things You Need to Know About ...

    My $0.01,

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  17. 5 hours ago, RememberSchiff said:

    Two sides to this. Freedom of expression vs child safety?

    Our local Eagle Board approves projects that serve the community for greater good, harmonious, good-PR,... The Board is not looking for controversy or conflict.

    From Rules & Regulations of the Boy Scouts of America July, 2023

    Participation in Public Functions (page 6)
    Scouters must, when practicable, cooperate in connection with civic or other public gatherings of a nonpartisan and nonpolitical
    character in a way that gives youth members an opportunity to render service in harmony with their training instead of merely taking
    part in parades in their uniforms. Any such participation must be consistent with the principles of the Scouting movement

    ....

    Policy Concerning Political Questions (page 7)
    The Boy Scouts of America must not, through its governing body or through any of its officers, chartered councils, Scouters, or members,
    involve Scouting in political matters. However, this must not be interpreted to prevent the teaching of ideals of patriotism and good
    citizenship as required to fulfill the Boy Scouts of America’s purpose. Faith-based teachings incorporated into the Scouting program by
    religious chartered organizations in a manner consistent with the Bylaws are not considered political matters. This policy does not
    prohibit the Boy Scouts of America from expressing its opinion upon matters of governmental concern when considered in its best
    interest by the governing body of the Boy Scouts of America.
    This policy does not limit the freedom of thought or action of any Scouter or member as an individual in a manner not directly or indirectly
    implying a connection to Scouting.

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