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Herein lies the true problem, not that there is misinterpretation with "canoe". Where is a Webelos scout supposed to use a rowboat, if not with a District/Council run event? This is what is not clear in the handbook. @Hueymungus Thanks, I will write to that e-mail address. I suspect it is skipped a lot too. ENV Well, when I was a Webelos, there was the Sportsman's club pond near our den leader's house, although most of the time our dads would drop us off to fish, after which we'd go to our DL's house and practice shooting his 38 special.

I was going to mention this in the other thread ... but would not have worded it with as much neutral language. So I refrained. Thanks for that posting the new position code. It says it all to me: 91U = Nine-to-one odds you're a cash cow to national. I'm inclined to encourage our scout parents to 1) drop from the roster or 2) sign-on as committee members - no uniform or patch required, or 3) get leader-specific training and replace me. Regardless, I will encourage them to get a myscouting account and take whatever training is available.

Question (just to round out the topic): Is Venturing YPT available for anyone with a myScouting accounnt, or only those registered with a Crew/Ship? I'd like to think the answer's "yes". But, my entire family being registered, I can't confirm it.

Online meetings are for individuals with strong vision and tight fellowship. If you don't have that, they will fail. It's just as hard to attend (really attend, with no distractions) online as it is to throw the kids in a car and take them to someplace that provides a baby sitter. How far apart do these people live? Got any venturing crews in the area? It's a long shot, but they might have a youh with the kind of maturity to handle lots of little ones. (Frankly, I'm coming to the conclusion we've got it all wrong with having parents be pack leaders, but that's another story.)

Just stopped at the Scout Shop, and they had some Jamboree gear for sale (Tents, Sleeping Bags, Totes, Power [?] Hats, Backpacks). I'm sure some of you have been getting E-mails. Anyway, I thought it would be good to have a thread about what gear folks picked up as a result of going to Jambo, and their evaluation of it. Maybe you could end with a price point as in "If it was on sale for $__, I'd buy another one." That way, if something in the back of the shop catches their eye, they'll be prepared to judge the sticker price in a thrifty manner.

Got a link? (Yeah, I know, they disappear almost as fast as you read them,) It's actually a really good idea. My chuch's young adult ministry has an outdoor component, and it seems to be one of the factors enabling college graduates to stick with us, or folks from out of town to find us. But with us, there is no upper age limit.

Sorry, venturers, looks like your stuck with the BSA freak show.

You could appeal to her son's more noble character and point out that it's a great badge to have .... Or just have her dicker with the good folks at Scouting Magazine: What about Scouts who started working on Eagle before 2014? Regardless of when a Scout earned the Life rank or began working on Eagle, unless he fulfills all the requirementsâ€â€with the exception of his board of reviewâ€â€before Jan. 1, 2014, he must earn the Cooking merit badge to become an Eagle Scout.

This is kinda like figuring out how to handle exchange students. If a boy transfers to my troop from whatever, and it matters to him, and our SPL/PLs can see he has the skills, I'd encourage SM and committee to sign him off as far as 1st Class. We'd have to negotiate specialty awards (like MB's or equivalent) one at a time. If the content matches, count it. If he completely forgot what EDGE means, but can teach scout skills, I'd definitely assign Life Rank! A lot of this might eventually involve sitting down with the boy and comparing lists. It might involve ignoring any smoke some lackey from national might blow in our face. But from where I sit, a first class scout, deserves the patch. doesn't matter what side of the border he lands on. Bottom line: I'm not gonna let the turbulence of our time keep from shining a light on accomplished boys.

Cobbler is just the "edge of the ladle" with these guys. Just on the tip of my tongue, they had: Baked haddock, pizza, shepherd's pie, rolled cabbage, velvet cake, apple pie, and much much more! The whole point of UoS is to provide a variety of instruction in a number of areas at several levels of experience. It is a knowledge exchange. I usually wind up teaching a course as well as taking a couple. (In addition to helping the Dutch oven guys with sampling and clean-up!)

Of all the types of outings where a boy can cook independently (simply because most backpacking meals are done in groups of 3 or 4 max). You'd think a troop would simply schedule more backpacking excursions just so boys would have more opportunities to work on the MB. [looking for the wishful thinking emoticon ...]

If repeat attendees schedule their courses so as to be available to "help" the dutch-oven cooking course test their results, then yep, same thing.

One of our troop's first Eagle scouts (of 40 years ago) came back for a visit and stopped in at a meeting. The boys really enjoyed talking to him. Hadn't done much in scouting. Retired, dropped in at his council office, and is now an SM for a special needs troop. It's generally a bad idea to judge a person before their whole life plays out.

Builfing block sets. Giant Jenga game. Model ships. Shoe stands.

I earned them as a scout. My kids thought they were neat, but after the first four, they just weighed down your belt. Since I never did scuba, I never saw the need.

So insecure you can't even type "the facts". That seems to be the cycle I have. It even plays out on an individual level. Seen a scout sister go from being peeved at being too young to join us, to not wanting to join until her friends joined, to being caught up with cheerleading and band, to her mom dropping me a line today asking if it's too late to sign her up for our council camporee. Fortunately, it isn't, and I hope to get a moment at campfire in a couple of weeks to ask her what it would take to make venturing work for her. It's really weird. I go from weeks wondering if I even still have a crew to weeks where they come out of the woodwork in dozens with insane plans for some riotous fun! Venturing is a much different animal than two active troops (one BSA, the other GSUSA) under the same roof.

This is where the BSA scout exec earns his keep. "Mr. Speaker, regarding HR #23, we're here for you!"

Congratulations. You're now that channel!

Don't play semantics, friend. A naive prospect would immediately associate a youth movement with that name to the pre-existing movement. If someone proposed such a thing to you in the past, it surely was not to simply tape that name over existing BSA material and carry on, but to organize a youth movent on better and more nobly applied principles than the current movement, Something like "Young Naturalists" would not infringe on the trademark. Of course, it might infringe one someone else's moniker. Start-ups have to do their homework.

Tact and discretion are learned behaviors. Scouting does little to instruct people on these specific behaviors. That said ... The best you could do is to tell parents how their behavior affected the other children and teach the other children how accept the fact that by definition not everyone can be everyone else's BFF. By the way, this affects boys as well, but not nearly to the degree it seems to bother young girls.

Bears and rattlesnakes, I can make my peace with. Filing just gives me the shivers ....

Sounds like you'd make a great counselor. Keep up with the trainings, and respect the troop rules. Generally our troop frowns on a boy getting lots of required MBs from a parent. Our district advancement chair told me he starts looking more dubiously at Eagle applications where the same counselor was used for more than three MBs. It's not that they won't approve the application if the board of review is convinced that the candidate knows his stuff, but they will ask more questions. Kinda like taxes: sure you can put down certain write-offs, but you might not want to because they could also be audit flags. But Bugling is definitely one we'd encourage a boy to learn from a capable parent. I suspect any troop you cross over to would be glad to have you as a resource!

BD, no surprise there. Some crews are formed just to serve the needs of the council. Most of us are a far cry from giving our young adults real authority. SR540, thanks for the window into the syllabus. This is where we fall short. Our VOA had become mega-event planners with little leadership/management responsibility. Calling around for venturers to come out and present their program to WBers would have been far less kludgy than watching our staff "go through the motions" of swearing in as a new crew.

Use very simple rules. A short list that a co-teacher helped my 3-4th grade Sunday School class come up with many years ago: 1. Respect others, 1.a. Talk in turn, 1.b Show kindness. 2. Stay on task. 3. Have fun. Have them on the wall to point to if a child is disruptive. (E.g., if he's complaining about a snack, point to rule #3. Scouting is about being comfortable in your own skin. So, you must learn the discipline of finding joy even when you would prefer things to be different.) Use very simple consequences. The kids need to know that you are there to "help" them succeed with the rules: 1. Warning. "Kids, sometimes you don't even realize you're breaking a rule, that's okay we'll help you by letting you know once." 2. Quiet Corner. "Sometimes it is hard to follow a rule even after being warned, especially in the middle of us doing stuff. If that's the case, you will find a corner to sit quietly until you think you can come back to follow the rules." 3. Parents. "If you can't handle the quiet corner, that's okay. We'll call your mom and dad, and they can sit with you, or maybe take you elsewhere. As soon as you think you can come back and follow the rules, we'd be glad to have you." It's really tough for kids on the Autism spectrum. The least little disturbance can push them over the edge. But, it means a lot if you will step through the discipline process efficiently so as to *help them* succeed.

Yeah, NAE. BD and I aren't all that bothered about the young women who are out hunting and fishing with their families, or the ones in girl scout troops where the mom steps it up and provides a serious outdoor program. I do have a few of those, I'm sure BD wishes he had a few more. We're looking to serve the young women who as girls kept watching their brothers go on outings while they were "shut out" between ages 11-13, and now need to challenge their "comfort level" before they can even relax enough to enjoy the outdoors. They've become "mall girls", and for a number of reasons it's in our nation's best interest if we can "un-Disneyfy" them at least a little. If you don't have that problem in your neck of the woods, consider yourself fortunate!