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You're twisting GTA 5.0.4.0 beyond its intent. We are to never accept work from a Canadian resident member of Scouts Canada. The guide is clear on the intended beneficiary: Youth from other countries who temporarily reside in the United States, or have moved here ... That wording precludes youth who never resided in the US, youth who permanently resided in the US, and youth who mostly reside in the US but temporarily (using the loosest possible definition of the term) leave the US to participate in another scout program. Moreover, it sets bounds on which ranks may be rewarded: Previous advancement work is reviewed to determine the BSA rank—up to, but not including Eagle Scout rank—the youth is qualified to receive. Furthermore, it is only intended to recognize skills acquisition, not participation, responsibility, or leadership: Requirements for active participation, position of responsibility, Scout spirit, the service project, and the unit leader conference must be completed in a BSA unit. Here's a "real-world" example of how I applied this last year: an exchange student already knew the oath and law (and the history of Scouting's origins and a whole lot of other stuff that our boys routinely forget) in Italian, so we reviewed those with the council venturing advisor and council committee chair. Everyone concluded that she didn't have to redo those for her Venturer award. However, her time since age 14, nor any meetings, activities, personal growth, etc ... in Italy would not count toward participation, etc ... for BSA awards. She would have to do all those here while in our crew if she wanted BSA's awards. It made scouting fun for everyone. Editied: I also want to point out that my example earlier (a BSA scout overseas away from his troop) didn't capture the intent of GTA 5.0.4.0.

So, 85K liked the flick? But, how much is that the movie vs. the cohort? Here's why I ask: Son #2's girlfreind is just being introduced to LoTR, and seemed rather tepid toward it. (E.g., "Why is there this woman elf all of a sudden?") Or, are there more "haters" out there these days. In other words, has America grown away from battles of extremes. Or, maybe they've seen enough of it in their "real" world, that it's no longer entertaining?

Well, my kids tested out of a few undergraduate courses. Some masters programs also accept work done at non-accredited schools. And, there are honorary degrees for those who contribute to the well-being of an institution or community through their career of non-degree service. Considering that ... IMHO, it would make better PR if they awarded Katrina Yeaw (or maybe some woman who applied earlier, but whose dad didn't make a court case over it) the 1st Female Eagle. Care about square #1 first, then wind justice forward meticulously. That would give Miss Ireland's Board of Review a little precedent to build from. If candidate zero doesn't deserve it by virtue of rogue-scouting in the wrong era, neither does the current batch of young women in rogue troops.

That will be our PLC ... not the BSA4G group ... just our boys ... and they'll add the beret. SMH dreading the day.

Depends on your bubble. My troop is at the intersection of a few. It's been interesting to see the mix of proponents (generally older, seemingly conservative types) and opponents (generally younger, both conservative and liberal) of BSA4G. Depending on who I talk to, BSA could be the rebellion or the First Order. This conservative-leaning Eagle scout's vote is goes back maybe even before Katrina Yeaw: we Americans should be in the business of achievement, not identity. BSA missed the boat on this one, and they've been playing catch-up for decades.

We often have the new scout patrol choose their PL from among their ranks, so that boy could be around 11 or 12 years of age. BSA no longer lets members hike or camp independently with their mates, so official solo camps are off the table. But, this is Western Pennsylvania, so keeping some clusters of boys (and, sometimes, their girlfriends) from soloing would be like keeping the wind from blowing. Those clusters, however, tend to be older. So, your instincts about pushing a young PL too hard in that direction are probably sound. The ground truth: most of us are only as good as our assistants. So, a lot of what you grant this PL will depend on how cohesive her APL and other scouts are. And, you only learn that through field testing as the year progresses. So, for example, if she gets her crew to snap together a shelter blindfolded, you can increase your comfort level with her on a nighttime insertion in the field. If her gang, on the other hand, are a bunch of ignorant thugs, you'll have to "shorten the leash."

No need to be sorry about the crew. They're growing strong and good. Some are just taking a much more circuitous route. The young women and non-scouts in my school district, however, seem to get interested in what Venturing has to offer after they have invested in many other activities that consume their time in a nickel-and-dime fashion. Devoting an entire weekend (and hours a week leading up to each weekend) in preparation for a challenging week seems to overwhelm them. They prefer to work the school's climbing wall and never worry about mountains. Also, I never really found my replacement. My boys' former SM has been a willing assistant, but the needs of our troop have been a persistent (albeit very rewarding) distraction. So, we're just going to focus on helping the older Boy Scouts get a vision for something besides summer camp and merit badge universities.

Oh, those youth movements that practically spawn themselves and the adults who won't say "no" to them.

Well there's no point in writing about something if you don't have a different take. Many others have a different take than TT, but many have the same take. Americans have a lot of religious anxt, and depending on where you live, you'll hear more about it than others elsewhere. @Tampa Turtle unlike you, I'm a fool for veiled heroines. Demographics, I suppose.

Sadly, my crew did not recharter this year. (It's complicated, but my one natural leader broke bad. The others couldn't/wouldn't regroup.) I'm still on our council's Venturing committee and am working to get three remaining crews in two adjacent districts to plan something together. So, you could say the sun total of our district's support for venturing is my spare time. :0 What would help? Scheduled yearly visits to every high school in the district. One flyer with the contact info of each crew.

Viva Mexico! I actually think the international organization clause is intended for the scout who did that work, but didn't get recognition in the other movement. E.g., traveling with the family to wherever for a parent's sabbatical, a scout was active in a troop and camped/hiked with them there, but could not really earn recognition from that organization because the stay was to brief or awards weren't given for that sort of thing - as is common with many older scouts in other WOSM organizations. When the scout returns to a US troop, leaders might want it to count for something, because the scout was, in a sense, staying active in his troop - albeit from a distance. In this case, the young woman went to another country and earned another country's award. She got due recognition for it. So, I can see why @NJCubScouter would be hard-pressed to concede that she is the class of scout for whom this exception was intended. Activity in a rogue US troop is more in line with the spirit of working the trail to Eagle, and if that doesn't fly, neither will stretching the letter of the "international scouting" clause.

LOL @The Latin Scot, I've seen so many adults masquerading as DLs (patch included) that a youth actually doing the job and being recognized for it hardly concerns me. But then, in high school, my youth pastor took the age of accountability quite seriously, and 8th-12th graders were given full responsibility for classes younger students over the summer. That included leading relatively deep Bible study -- if we had read the thing at least once, as well as field sports and athletics. Our first year leading, we would have an adult partner with us, but in subsequent years we would be partnered with equally talented youth. The main advantage we had over adults was we didn't know what we didn't know! Challenges from our class during the day led to some deep conversations among ourselves in the evening. Yes, I would like to know more details. Like, was she the only the leader in the room with the boys? What made it difficult for other parents to take point? What was her official title? When did she get it? Who suggested the "formal" recognition? Was the idea inspired by meeting scouts from other countries?

Now, what would be really cool is a 3D print aluminum deposition car with axels printed coming out of the block already aligned, and wheels printed around the axels.

I'm figuring that much of that page was written a year ago. Either that, or someone in marketing just won't let it go. Or, you're right, and we're stuck with double-speak.

Yes. They inserted "family" in every headline leading up to and including the survey period with nary a mention of "girls." This caught the ire of many scouters, myself included, who spend a lot bringing youth up to speak plainly and never bury the lead. In headlines following the survey period (e.g., https://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/press-releases/bsa-expands-programs-welcome-girls-cub-scouts-highest-rank-eagle-scout/ , https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2017/10/11/bsa-welcomes-girls/ , http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/07/opinions/girls-boy-scouts-surbaugh-opinion/index.html) they explicitly run "girls" in the head, and "family" is referenced as one, among many, motivations. This is the only evidence that the survey had any impact on National's words or actions. Of course, they haven't given us a name to apply to these new units/dens. When they do so, they may have us picking terms that obfuscate more than elucidate. (E.g., there's not a Venturer who I've met who did not call themselves Venture Scouts until someone told them otherwise.) I think, @ItsBrian, they will certainly have to do something of the sort when addressing the dens. But, I hope the patch will still be the same "Tiger Cub" regardless of whose pocket it's on.

Even if National has toned down the "family scouting" double-speak, it will take another year for it to wash out of the lexicon. And that will only happen if they promote a precise program names. That's why I've stuck with calling it BSA4G (Boy Scouts of America, for Girls) - and not BSA-Mixed, or B+GSA or FSA or Scouting USA or Pre-Ventureing or anything else that muddies the waters around program that the CSE described. BSA4G also captures the (debatable) notion that the new program offers girls something that they cannot get elsewhere as well as the (also debatable) assurance that traditional units may still retain their flavor as a result of some administrative wall of segregation. I don't expect a reporter to be sharp on details if National remains guarded as well.

For the last couple years before retirement, Every morning before work, my brother went swimming at the YWCA in town. He had transferred and was staying at my house, and their pool was on the bus line. If the ladies were of such service to my brother, I don't mind being of such service to someone's sister/daughter. I wouldn't ask them to drop their "W" and I don't see young women asking this organization to drop its "B."

I wasn't going to ask this, but @NJCubScouter put porgs and Shatner in the same post ... Did anyone else think "Trouble with Tribbles" when Chewy brought them onboard the Falcon?

Well, bless her heart. I hope she achieves her den leader award and a few other knots! If she has been on roster for some time, I suspect the registered her has a Venturer in some crew and she held the position of den chief. Regardless, the CM probably cajoled a parent or two to be in the room holding the DL title but promising that they wouldn't be asked to do any heavy lifting. Then after a while, the Cubmaster or CC felt it was time call a spade a spade, went to their DE with the "If it walks like a duck ..." speech, and they all agreed that she should be recognized for the position she actually did.

or how about this: Boy Which says, "Welcome our old club. We won't keep you out of it by changing the name."

Don't underestimate how much coaches need to train parents in youth sports. I've compared notes with coaches, and they have to deal with their fair share of helicoptering. However, most school leagues have specific sportsmanship training for parents. The thought that parents would need either sportsmanship training or patrol method training that addressed their behavior was unheard of in my day.

I appreciate your optimism. But, as we've seen with this year's insta-palms and trail to first class camping provisions, the national advancement team has a tough time discerning a common understanding of what is equitable when phasing in revised requirements. Maybe paradigm shifts can never be equitable. But, I like hearing from as many sides as possible ... then, when I get handed national's policy, I'll have some sense of how palatable that edict will be. @HelpfulTracks, I think you have that requirement right. At least last year, I remember getting a lecture that included a threat that if your charter lapses, you must suspend unit activities, including advancement. This had to do with getting all PA mandated clearances in and direct-contact leaders trained. There was actually some talk of making sure all of the district's Life scouts in units behind on paperwork could be transferred to "stable" units. It didn't come to that, but we were drawing up the plans B and C. I've always taken the "stay registered" litmus test to be for boys who might not otherwise pay dues or be in good standing. I think it also had to do wih BSA minimizing its liability exposure. It's an open question as to how this would play out with someone who wanted to be registered, but was denied because of decisions by adults. It will be interesting to hear what your scout and venturer in training have to say.

I and my friends never camped (be it church or Boy Scouts, can't speak for Girl Scouts) with our parents. One ASM was the dad of a couple of brothers. The rest were college students. There were times when I was a little jealous of the brothers. The ASM was a rugged coal miner, but gentle and courteous. He would address either of his boys as "honey-bunch" ... Which might be odd to some boy's ears, but in Arab American families, terms of endearment (especially "beloved" and "precious") were common, if not mandatory. So hearing it made me feel at home. Which was a good feeling to have on a frozen ridge while pitching a tent or cooking a meal. In retrospect, I should have invited my dad or oldest brother to join us at camp. I think my SM would have enjoyed my brother's company.

@Eagle94-A1 , no joke: the theater we went to had a bartender set up by the concession stand! I think being a museum, they have a liscence for "special events" anywhere in the building ... Including the theatre.

One thing that I did this month, was offer the SPL a guessing game. I put a junk part from an appliance in a box, and the boys had twenty yes/no questions they could ask to guess what was in the box. Once they guessed what appliance the part belonged to, they could open the box and continue guessing what the part actually did. (Fifteen minutes of STEM, check.) The game wasn't the point. The point is, the scouts were to ask questions by patrol. I only let a scout ask a question if he would give his patrol name and the patrol would respond with a yell - which confirmed the patrol had agreed on a question to ask. Don't respond fast enough, the box got passed to the next patrol. That's probably my only patrol method moment for the month. The rest of my time is spent touching base with adults for various paperwork needs or to explain (re-explain) the program to new parents.