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  1. Women developed bilateral vision in order to ward off men trying to grab her by the hair and drag her off to their caves.. Men, in order to duck when the women came at him with a big club.. Agree with NJ you will probably need to answer your own question SSScout.
  2. Meryln - you are speaking a foreign language saying the Bible was written by man, when talking to people who believe the Bible came from God.. You will never ever see each others points of views.. Me, I fall somewhere in the middle of the two views with the Bible was written by man interpreting the word of God, and man writing down what Jesus did when he walked amongst us (think the very first newspaper men.)... Then it's been reinterpreted, and reinterpreted, and reinterpreted again... But, somewhere within all that reinterpretation, there are nuggets of God & Jesus... But, then ever
  3. Well if you are Jewish, you might say what God wanted from us has been unchanging (maybe, I'm not Jewish).. If your Christian there is one big event that stated in a BIG way what God wanted from us had changed.. He came in the form of Jesus Christ.. Other religions who do not follow the Judeo/Christian God may have gods that constantly change their expectations.. Who knows..
  4. I can't see the Disability Awareness at a day event, but our camp offered it at a week long camp, to complete it you needed to work at it more then your 1 hour a day class time. Easter Seals has a cabin that houses disabled youth for camping.. The youth taking the class worked with them in various ways, I don't know all of what but my son took it and talked of helping them during their swim class and some outdoor activities, so they didn't stay cramped indoors for the entire MB course.
  5. Sure the Scout Oath & Scout Law help to give scouts a guideline to ethical & moral choices... That is where we as scouts find a common denominator in ethics and morality.. Otherwise it's to each his own based on his personal religion or viewpoint of what their moral perspective is... I think besides your personal beliefs NJCubScouter, BSA has religions with similar views and they are acceptable to BSA.. Either way, BSA accepts atheists who prescribe to a religion but they have no belief in a higher power dictating moral values, and BSA accepts those who believe in a higher power bu
  6. Higher power isn't something this forum came up with in order to distort the views of BSA on this.. BSA has stated this is acceptable terminology time & time again.. As in this that I pulled from “Duty to God†lies at the foundation of Scouting’s commitment to moral, ethical, and spiritual growth. To reach our full potential and learn how to make better choices throughout our lives, each of us needs to believe in a higher power." Eagledad - I think what Merlyn is stating is that morals differ from religious belief to religious belief.. These disagreements have caused many reli
  7. Eagledad - we have already discussed and have proof BSA allows in atheist religions, Buddah and as Merlyn stated Taoism and others.. You seem to be belittling personal reflection for coming up with your beliefs? Why? What is wrong with sleeping out under the stars and looking around and coming to the realization that something great must have had a hand in organizing everything, or that the sum of nature is greater then ourselves or whatever.. Who are you to say that coming to a belief in a higher power this way is not as good as being dragged off to Sunday school to have your beliefs drum
  8. Ummmm... Well we have taking little side trips, but we seem to get back to the topic eventually... We have been pretty good.. So do we get to go out for ice cream? Huh, Huh?.. We have been pretty good.. 11 pages and as clear as mud.. All religions including atheist religions (except for a few BSA personally dislikes but no list of them).. Virtually any belief that is personal and has no organized religion including believing a rock or tree has some sort of higher power..
  9. SM in sons troop monitored how many opem MB's a scout had open, had to have a good reason to open more if you already had 6 open.. SM also monitored who the MBC was, had to be a good reason to have a parent as your MBC.. Most people scouts & parents had no issue with it..
  10. Did you miss the whole who-ha about the pizza joint in Indiana? Not to take a turn down another road.. But, people defending them and cake bakers were stating they weren't discriminating against the gays, but they were Christian pizzerias & bakeries and so it was a Christian pizza and/or a Christian cake that couldn't attend an event that went against their religion.. Ok this came from defenders of this new Indiana bill.. I know Hobby Lobby supreme court verdict has them stating corporations are religious.. I don't know if the Supreme court would back the cakes & pizzas coming from the
  11. Must have ran out of my 15 minute edit, I added to last post but it didn't take. I also thought the aluminum cookware had to have some thickness.. Those cook mess kits from what I saw are paper thin.. My club aluminum cookware has about 3/4 inch thick walls, the cute aluminum Do wasn't that thick but had some thickness too it, enough that it did not look like you could change it's form with dents and mushing from normal ware and tear and packing into a backpack.. I could see where you could have burn problems others referenced where you burn at every place the charcoal touched, if your al
  12. I have always listed myself as MBC to anyone (not troop only).. Even with required MB's I got few outside of my troop asking me.. Now that I have been away from the troop for over 8 years, I get few at all as those in the troop no longer know me either.. Of course that could be location also, I live about half an hour outside of the very bottom half of my district.. Therefore to most any scout in my district I would be 1/2 hour or longer commute.. I know with my son, when looking at the list of MBC's outside the troop the city they lived in was an important factor for who to try to call 1s
  13. I didn't realize those old aluminum mess kits were that airtight as to be used that way.. Does anyone still sell them new? Most the time the ones I see are so beat up and grungy I couldn't see anyone eating or cooking with them anymore, if they had an airtight seal at one time, they don't anymore due to the dents and mushing they received..
  14. Can't burn the handles on mine unless you are really not being attentive, since the one handle shared by all comes off, and you have to take it off since the way it's made it is very secure when lifting the pot with it, but if you leave it on without holding on to it, it will fall off due to gravity.. I debated getting a single pot with lid & handle for the extra handle that I saw being sold on ebay, just because I fear if I loose the handles, the pots will be useless.. I guess because I grew up with them always being semi-shiny I feel like that is the way they should be and I am not
  15. I just came back after being away for quite a while.. I am sticking around for a while as the new forum is very nice and it is now easy to track stuff you are interested in keeping tabs on, unlike the old forum which never recovered from the upgrade that was buggy and lost features that were in the one it replaced.. I too am not as involved in scouting, some trainings I still officially am a UC but should officially resign since my going on night shift has made it impossible to meet with them to visit or help out. But, hey I still find I am opinionated..
  16. Enjoyed reading everyone's responses, since I don't work with troops anymore I stayed away from answering, because the answers would have been what our troop use to do about 8 years back when I was involved.. I do use the DO's for training in IOLS, OWLS and BALOO, but my answers would now be about my own personal cookware.. I have an older cast iron skillet for my kitchen.. I always thought with long use my other cast iron would someday look as well seasoned as it is (very smooth on the inside, and the outside is not smooth at all, sort of like it had slowly built up some sort of hard pro
  17. My husband had someone in his family lost part of his arm that way.. I never met him, but to be sure, no one in his family stuck their arm out the window too far when driving on tight single lane roads. TAHAWK - Sorry if you felt I was doubting you by my comment.. More I was just questioning why the list didn't mention them. AZMike - very true that religion has become taboo, unless you know you are with people of your own faith. Just something hit by the polarization of the times on several topics.
  18. Well, perhaps I opened a can of worms.. After all, the article simply shows a fight between the humanist and BSA... Perhaps it is not BSA the denied the humanist, but the humanist who rejected BSA unless it opened it's doors to all.. Who knows.. After all if all these are considered religious groups and BSA has made the statement that virtually every religion is represented in the BSA. It doesn't say virtually every religion with a theistic belief.. Like TAHAWK says if a Buddist can have no belief in any Gods and be ok... What I do find strange was that Buddist didn't seem to be on th
  19. Not having a good list of district MBC's sounds like a real hindrance to your district..Perhaps you can ask around at a round table.. You may find one that isn't known because of the poor list, or one that usually works with a troop, but when asked will come to your aid.. Or perhaps someone still in the Cub Scout program, who has yet to think about being an MBC but one of the ones you are asking about it aligns with their occupation.. When we were about to leave the troop (son aged out) they found someone who wasn't in Scouting but was willing to do all 3 Citizens... Some one in our troop was
  20. I was just looking into atheists religions.. This may be a little more complicated (I will get back to that.) Wiccans although do not have a God, seems they have gods Buddist also give a nod to god or gods. So anyway, I went looking for a list of non-theist beliefs and I found that one on the list BSA I guess has said "No" to and consider them to be atheists.. The Humanists, the belief is summarized as follows. But this article sort of shows that BSA rejected humanist and they had a legal tussle similar to atheists.. http://americanhumanist.org/news/details/2010-06-hum
  21. That is very confusing BUT very true... Because you follow a religious practice (just guessing)???...
  22. When we were in Cub Scouts being reverent of others beliefs was all I thought someone needed to meet reverent.. Somewhere when my son was in BS I read the BSA expectation for reverent.. A Scout is Reverent. He is reverent toward God. He is faithful in his religious duties and respects the convictions of others in matters of custom and religion. Then also duty to God - means expecting you to do your duty to God.. And that is why BSA can state that you can not just be an atheist who respects the religious beliefs of others.. But you are right - If you are following the other 11
  23. There have been child molesters in BSA in the past.. I am sure there are child molesters in BSA now, I still don't look at every scouter in BSA with the presumption that they are a child molester.. Same thing with this.. You can not presume everyone is doing it wrong, because of a few examples that some are doing it wrong.. I will give you a nod that if I lived in the Bible belt, rather then in the Northeast, my view would probably be more fearing a 50/50 mix of those doing it wrong to those working hard to do it right.. I do not know where you live, but that may be where the difference of ou
  24. You see the whole point of the question as being a "test" to eliminate the atheists.. But you fail to acknowledge the real reason for the question, which is to push the scout to take the time to do some self reflection... If they are not hit with the question for the first time at the EBOR, they will have had time to reflect on it.. If you regularly ask at a BOR "If you could change anything in the troop, what would it be?" would you expect much from a tenderfoot more then "I don't know.." but you would expect the answers to become better as the scout climbs up in rank and is not surprise
  25. Yeah just in the news this week is something about parents who allowed their 6 yo & 10 yo walk alone to the neighborhood park and they got a visit by the police and a warning.. They did it a second time and are now in real hot water (I forget what they are now facing).. Luckily, I was happy to see comments after the news article siding with the parents and thinking authorities were over-reaching.. But, still.. Reminded me of when I ended up with my sisters 5 yo child for 2 or 3 months.. My mother brought him to us as we were out of state.. Child welfare wanted to take the child away from
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