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Moose, I can agree with you that local option would be a fair position. But then take your reasoning: and apply it to the recent actions of the LGBT lobbies. Bakers, photographers, and florists are being forced out of business and sued because they don't wont to participate in a Gay wedding ceremony. (Even one pizza joint that has never catered any wedding has been closed due to death threats!) What rational can you use to comfort COs that want to have straight SMs that they won't be bludgeoned into submission by the Gay lobby?

But it was so much fun watching many of our Forum Fellows froth themselves over nothing: Gonna be a fun election season. Will it be Hillary Handout or Baltimore O'Malley? Or a 'yet to be conjured' ghost candidate with less luggage?

We let them slide as Tigers, when only the adults actually knew that we were letting them slide. But you need to adhere more to the actual requirements every year, as the boys grow aware of what the fulfills the rule. If you let WebIIs slide like Tigers ("Doing your best" gets gamed by older boys!), then you're not preparing them for the higher expectations of Boy Scouts.

http://scouter.com/index.php/topic/26835-ebor-no-belief-in-a-higher-power/

NRA certifications for RSO/Instructor are continuously valid if you teach a course once every 2 years. And those are real bullets. If I were a camp director, I'd worry about the shooting sports. Feedback that I overheard from the boys was that they came to Day Camp for Archery and BBs; everything else was filler while they waited their turn.

Pardon me for responding to the original topic: A few recent Eagle candidates have pushed their reverence to NO GOD as satisfying their 'Duty to God' requirement. Including a faith element in SMCs is logical push-back. No longer will barrister boys be able to say "You never told me I had to believe in Gawd!" Seems straight forward to me.

61 years old, 6'2", 225 pounds, and knees that remind me not to eat. My 13 year old boy has hit 5'10" and I'm putting more weight in his pack to slow his vertical climb. It's not working...

Does it help to see the statements side by side? I'd rather have teasing out in the open where it can be monitored and kept friendly, rather than out of leaders' sight where teasing becomes bullying. If you think that doing 5 push-ups for talking out of turn is going to leave an emotionally scar, then I think that you're toeing the PC line instead of dealing with the realities of leading boys. Not so much 'disingenuous' as 'head in the sand'.

Folks who judge others in Black or White amuse me. Embarrassment is part of life. We seek to put our boys into challenging situations so that they will grow. If we have to avoid all embarrassment, than we better not challenge them. If that's your standard, consider me a proud rogue.

I've only done Cub Scout Day Camp for 5 years. And 4 of those years saw me glued to the archery range. So I admit up front that I haven't been exposed to the bureaucratic underbelly of CSDC. But it just doesn't seem to me that it can be that hard. Specifically, what is the big deal that requires a Director's presence for 3 days at a national school? What national hand-holding takes place 'in person' that can't be learned from a good workbook and a few online videos?

Ain't happening.

No joke at all. Are push-ups for talking out of turn considered hazing? When the PLC gets the whole troop to vote on it, and the troop approves the policy (it may have been unanimous)? And yes, everybody is subject to the same rule. I've done push-ups for answering a question too loudly on the side; and adults talking too loudly in the back of the room while the boys are trying to meet in the front are introduced to the 'front leaning rest'. It's not 50 push-ups; it's 5. Just enough to interrupt your private conversation and get you re-focused on the meeting.

Sorry - you hit a nerve. Patently ridiculous is the notion that an archery range or BB range certification needs to be renewed every 2 years. The bow and arrow has stopped evolving; repetitive training is less valuable than experience.

My troop voted to require 5 push-ups from boys who spoke when they were supposed to be listening. At one point or another everybody does push-ups. That is less embarrassing than being singled out for being disrespectful of other peoples time, and it keeps the meetings moving. We carry on while the blabbermouth is getting exercise on the floor. A few boys are building some good shoulders!

Worst case scenario: Attend events and training in the neighboring council; invite the neighboring council for Friends of Scouting (renamed something else if geography becomes an issue); keep your existing shoulder patches. Stay registered with your old council, they will still get your registration $25, but nothing more.

So now I have to add a line in each text about whom I'm am really sending the message to? Instead of a quick "yes" being sufficient to answer a question, I'm going to have to pull off the road and compose an elaborate E-pistle to multiple recipients... What am I missing here? How does having a 3rd party recipient add any protection to either adult or scout? I'll wait for this interpretation of YPT to work its way to me through the training. Hopefully by the time it gets officially communicated, there will have been enough wasted electrons for common sense to become involved.

I totally agree. The ASMs in my troop will wonder why I'm sending them texts that they are not a part of. Text from Scout to SM: "Jack is sick. Who is buying Grub?" Text from SM to Scout and 3rd party ASM: "You're buying the food." Text from Scout: "Okay." Text from ASM: "What food? I'm not on this trip!"

So, "5 years working full time in mechanical engineering for the State of PA" = Stamping license plates in prison. Sweeeeet!

I can't agree with the original premise. I've seen high performing athletes who are complete brats, because the coach and the parents let them get away with murder hoping to get a scholarship. In Scouts, the SM sets the tone through the PLC as to what's allowed. If the SM can't teach respect and control his boys... Well.

Click, what is the Chartering Organization? If the CO is a public school that avoids religion, you may have to consider letting him tip-toe past the EBOR, as he would be following their approach to 'Reverent'. If the CO is a church, FAIL, as he is and has always been betraying their attempts to foster his development.

Is this behavior a natural distillation of our democracy? Have the two parties been around just long enough to despise each other? Or is this a result of modern electronic communication? In particular, the 24 hour news cycle of cable and the internet? Being a pro-choice conservative is lonely. I yearn for an open-minded political affiliation.

More impressive is that British teens are aware of health care issues. They are still too young to have been exposed to much illness.

Liked the article. http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/frenchrevolution/files/2015/02/Chart-e1424370289559.png Disturbed by the graphic. What can we do?

And Wisconsin's New Glarus Beers and Point were better than Illinois offerings. So I bought beer legally at the PX on the Navy base in Athens, but couldn't drink it off-post. Legally. Federal jurisdiction vs, state. Underage kids couldn't drink in a bar or at home, so they paid 21 year-olds to get them beer and drank it in private - driving around. Thanks MADD. Overlooked in this whole milieu is the increase in drug consumption caused by the 21 year old drinking age. It was a lot easier to hide a baggie of weed or a gram of cocaine from your folks than it was to slip a cooler of beer past mom and dad.