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    • Off topic now, but I certainly hope that's what's going to happen. In a generation, GSUSA is going to have a real struggle on their hands if they don't open up membership to boys. Gender segregated scouting is niche, and once enough time has passed for everyone to know off the top of their heads that Scouting America is coed and the girls growing up in Cub Scouts now have kids of their own, there will be as many moms as dads who fondly remember their scouting youth and want to share scouting with their kids based on what I just saw at cub resident camp. I think that's what we're all doing as parents - whatever experience we had in scouts as youth is what we want to share with our kids. Right now, moms who were Girl Scouts with daughters want to share Girl Scouts with them, and often do. My cub and I are usually the only mother-daughter pair with no boy siblings in the family at events. Moms who were Girl Scouts but who have boys have to put them in Scouting America if they do scouts; but dads who were Scouting America scouts can now share that with all their kids. Once both US-born moms and dads were Scouting America scouts... I predict the same fate for GSUSA as other girl guiding organizations - niche. The vast majority of people want coed scouting and Scouting America now has first-mover advantage in the US. The longer GSUSA delays in letting boys in, the harder it will be to make up the time for all the reasons Scouting America has just gone through. Or, I suppose, they can just experience what our single-gender units are experiencing now.
    • In the two years of fumbling it took us to get enough girls to start a girl troop, we lost five kids (two sibling pairs + 1 friend of of one of the families) from out of our own pack to a neighboring town because they had a functioning linked boy troop and girl troop. We managed to get our stuff together to charter a girl troop with minimum #s that next year, but by year's end one aged out and one of our female adults moved. We were down to four girls going into 2024 and knew one would age out over the summer, so the mixed gender pilot was the saving grace for 2025. Very doubtful that BSA is going to drop that, and would bet the farm that by 2026 it is just one of the membership options that any unit can use. 
    • There are careers that may require one-on-one contact with youth, however aside from those roles,    This is the line that I'm not sure what they meant by adding it.   Employer/Employee?  Doctor/patient?
    • I can add that in my area a couple of hold out packs decided that they wanted to be boy only. A couple of packs tried to do single gender dens. In both scenarios everyone watched as those units shrank, and shrank, and shrank while the family packs maintained or grew. The last couple of hold out packs are basically cookie cutter of each other now, 5-6 scouts with 5 adults; everyone in the district knows that those packs are folding when a member of the Key 3 crosses over with their AOL.  My buddies pack tried to stay boy only until they got down under 10 scouts; they went to district and some of us peer leaders at other units for help and the shock was insane. I had to tell my buddy that I was not wasting my time trying to help him recruit when he could easily pick up another 5-10 scouts by just letting the sisters that were tagging along to meetings and participating join the pack. The COR of that pack, his head, it was deep raspberry with rage, I thought he was going to burst a blood vessel in both of his eyes; he really didn't like me telling him to his face that he was killing his pack by being sexist. 
    • This is absolutely correct. Also note that there are height restrictions beyond just weight. I know of 1 person that was denied the ability to go to Philmont due to his height; he was told that his total length when prone exceeded the capabilities of the rescue helicopter cage.
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