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    • Quite true but I think the source of the problem is that most units dont have leaders capable of giving up control so the other leaders revert to just getting what the minimum done and leaving. I was asked recently to help on a patrol outing at my troop. The key concern is that the leader was given a green light to do whatever he wants to help his sons patrol develop; however, he cant use troop gear so he came to me for help since my personal gear closet is full. The key 3 dont want the backlash of saying no so them and the adult quartermaster have created an equipment scheme that stiffles any activities outside of their personal plan [planned] around their scouts.
    • These two ideas go hand in hand.  If you join a program only for what you get out of it, you are much less likely to give to the program.  And, unless that attitude changes for adults (we kind of expect it for youth, don't we?), you will see the program wither. For example, so few adults in our area are willing to give up their second (or third) vacation of the year to take kids to the woods for a week.  And when they do, they expect.... wait for it... a vacation! Same holds true for weekend camping.  We have great difficulty in implementing the Patrol Method, in that patrols sometimes want to do their own activity over a weekend, but we just cannot get the adults required for two-deep to cover the number of patrols we have out doing things.  Due to lack of adult volunteers, we often have to force them back together for a quasi-troop event. If we (collectively) are unable to deliver the promises of adventure that we have made, they leave, and rightfully so. Adventure = retention
    • Your mention of retention decreasing has piqued my curiousity. I am curious if there is a chart which tracks retention? It would be interesting to see how this has changed over the many years similar to the gross membersip chart shared previously. 
    • This chart is often shown and as far as I can tell quite accurate; however, there are lies, the truth, and statistics.  The values not shown on this chart are critically important to understanding chart: Percent of population under 18yrs AND membership headcount as a percentage of total elgible youth. Scouting America has held steady at 2% of total elgible youth until about 3 years ago. Specifically retention has increasingly gone down. The organization knows how to recruit but units dont know how to retain.
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