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    • I'll tell you why we "isolate" ourselves... We have the strongest Troop in our District, and I daresay our Council.  First and foremost, this is because of a small dedicated cadre of adults (about eight) who understand the Patrol Method, and mentor our Scouts to keep that as a focal point in our activities. We have 35 total adults registered, with 44 youth currently on the books.  Of the 35 adults, again, eight pull most of the weight, about 17 dabble here and there to help out, and 10 contribute nothing, if not less Of the 44 Scouts, about 10 are extremely active in the program, about 26 dabble, and eight contribute nothing and will probably drop out. Side note:  notice how those numbers follow the 20-60-20 rule?  I learned that some time ago in a military leadership course... in any group, 20% of your people are Sierra Hotel (focus your time on them), 60% are average performers (encourage them and some will respond, but not all), and 20% are low performers (Help them when they ask..  Do not expend effort chasing them or trying to bring them into the 60%.  If they do, great... if they don't, let them go.) Here are a few tenets of our Troop adult culture: 1.  Adults will be fully trained in their positions. No exceptions.  We make adults aware of the training burden and commitment expected before they sign on. 2.  Don't get your training done, and you are dropped from the roster.  3.  It is not about your kid.  You are here for all.  The best compliment you can get is, at the end of a camping trip, when your Scout hops in your car, another Scout looks at him and says "I didn't know that was your Dad (or Mom).  During our events, try to act in such a way as to receive that compliment. 4.  Our Troop pays for adults' food and camping fees for trips. (or at least a portion thereof, when attendance is over the adult leadership requirements)  Adults pay for their own activity fees (like whitewater rafting, ziplining, etc.), and their fair share of gas and tolls for the trip.  We let our adults know we appreciate their time and sacrifice. 5.  We pay for all required training.  For example, when you sign up to be an ASM, you must attend IOLS.  You pay out of pocket at first, and when you are done, the Troop reimburses you the cost. 6.  We pay half for advanced courses. For example, we have our own unit climbing program, so we sent a leader to National Camp School, Climbing section, to get certified, so we can run our own unit program. (Our program is cheaper than local council or commercial costs!!)  We sent a leader to NCS for Outdoor Skills (formerly know as Scoutcraft).  We sent a leader to do Shooting Sports (now known as Range and Target Activities?)  Next year, we hope to send one to Aquatics. 7.  A good number of our adults are trained in CPR/AED, Wilderness First Aid, Swimming and Water Rescue, Paddlecraft Safety, and YES!! Chainsaw Safety.  We push leaders to get these kinds of courses as a "Force Multiplier".  With these skills, we greatly enhance our capability to provide youth the program they want, when they want it. 8.  We police each other.  Youth Protection is fiercely enforced.  Other breaches of GTSS and Scouter Code of Conduct are handled discretely, but firmly.  Most infractions are due to ignorance.  Ignorance can be cured... 9.  Overall, adults need to know that, as @Eagle94-A1 pointed out above, unit leaders "...are the heart and soul of the program. Without volunteers, you cannot have the program..."  When you treat them that way, they respond with dedication. There are more facets here, but I'll stop. We "isolate" ourselves because the District and Council live a different set of tenets.  And the program they run is, well, below our skill set, to put it politely. In 2020, during the pandemic, when all Scouting shut down, our youth still wanted to do a Summer Camp.  So, we made our own, and they had a blast.  (And EVERYTHING was within the parameters of our State Governor's and CDC orders/guidelines.)  The Scouts absolutely loved it!  The only thing we did not have then was shooting sports. Since 2020, our PLC has elected to go to various council camps for Summer Camp.  The ones who went in 2020 (who are now the senior Scouts) have been disappointed over the years in what they have experienced in the council-run camps.  So, they asked to have another Troop-only Summer Camp this year, and it was a huge success.  (By the way, in 2020, we ran the camp with 30 youth, 11 adults, at a cost of $244.01 per head; in 2025, 22 youth and 11 adults, at a cost of  $303.40 per head.) [exactly in line with inflation...] We have found that we can run a better quality program, at a cheaper cost, and with much less hassle, than going to district or council events.  This includes day, weekend, and weeklong programs...
    • How are your district people selected? Who is nominating your members-at-large? Who is appointing members of your nominating committee? I speculate the most innocuous reason is due to limited social networks. More egregious reasons are egos, gatekeeping and controlling district resources.
    • I always wondered why we wouldn't look to either 20-30 year old ex scouts or 55+ year old aging scouters to fill District roles (basically avoiding parents of scout aged kids).  In my area, most District roles are filled by unit volunteers, burning them out or having them choose between helping their unit or helping the District.
    • I may have proposed the question wrong. If the units are complaining about lack of district support, yet all of the district committee members are from the units. In other words, they are complaining about the lack of support that is of their own doing.  Thanks for the tips. That's all well understood. I am a volunteer, and I also have decades of organizational management experience in a business context. I see the problem, but I don't have any control over fixing it.  All I can do is ask them to show-up.     
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