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    • Welcome to the forum, @mzzgwenf. I removed the image you posted as it wasn't an image and wouldn't display. If you would like to upload an image then copy it to your computer first and then upload it.   I'm sorry, but I really don't know what you're trying to say. It seems that you were dealing with a parent that you felt was threatening you. If so, call the police. If it really was just verbal attacks then talk to some other adults and see what they think. If this other person is making it impossible for you to volunteer then bring it up with the pack committee. They do have the authority to remove parents that cause problems. But, it sounds like you already stepped down?
    • Noticed this: NOTICE OF DECEMBER 2, 2021 VIRTUAL TOWN HALL MEETING HOSTED BY THE OFFICIAL TORT CLAIMANTS’ COMMITTEE PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that the Official Committee of Tort Claimants’ (the “TCC”) holds weekly meetings to keep survivors of abuse (“Survivors”) and their representatives informed. The next meeting will be on December 2, 2021 at 8:00 p.m. (ET). The details for the next meeting are below. PLEASE TAKE FURTHER NOTICE that the Tort Claimants’ Committee will hold a virtual town hall meeting on December 2, 2021 at 8:00 p.m. (Eastern Time). Zoom: https://pszjlaw.zoom.us/j/82272826295 (no registration required) Dial-In by Telephone: 888-788-0099 (Toll Free), Webinar ID: 822 7282 6295. If asked for a “Participant ID,” just press # PLEASE TAKE FURTHER NOTICE that, pursuant to section 1102(b)(3) and 1103(c) of the Bankruptcy Code, the TCC holds virtual town hall meetings for Survivors of childhood sexual abuse and their representatives Survivors who are not appointed to the Tort Claimants’ Committee to provide updates and access to information about the bankruptcy cases.  The identity of participants shall be kept strictly confidential, but if you ask questions using the Zoom “Q&A” function, you might want to use your initials or otherwise abbreviate your name PLEASE TAKE FURTHER NOTICE that this Town Hall will include: Topics Communications with the TCC and its Counsel TCC’s continued goals of (1) more money for the trust, (2) independent governance of the settlement trust, and (3) meaningful youth protection. Voting Deadline and Confirmation Timeline PLEASE TAKE FURTHER NOTICE that the Town Hall meetings will occur on every Thursday at 8:00 p.m. (ET) using the same Zoom link above and dial in information.  Recordings and transcripts of all Town Hall meetings are posted after they are concluded at  www.TCCBSA.com.
    • I present this discussion with tears in my eyes as I accept the fate of my future with my beloved Cub Scouts.  I am a victim of abuse from a parent who has had such a strong hold on our pack that she has scared everyone into accepting her behavior or we all, adults and scouts, will suffer her wrath.  I have taken this situation to the highest level I can go to which is the direct attention of Mr. Randall Stephenson, President of the BSA, and still I receive no support.  I have read several discussions on this forum that address the bad behavior of adult parents in scouting environments but I have not seen anything that deals with the accountability process.  The situation in question is too extensive to discuss here, but bottom line, I have been forced away from my role as proud Cubmaster to avoid possible violence.  Now, I know all the rules of scouting behavior but I am now aware that those rules only apply to those who are not as aggressvie as the offenders.  Plainly speaking folks, we have a severe adult bullying problem in the BSA, especially in the Cub Scouts.  Parents are getting out of control and the upper level leadership is looking the other way because they don't want to get involved.  At the Council and National levels, THEY GET PAID TO GET INVOLVED!  We as volunteers tolerate that mess for free and we need protection just as much as the children do.  Those tears I mentioned before are out of frustration that I believed in the scouting system.  I believed in the zero tolerance.  I believed that there is an expectancy of intervention when a formal complaint is rendered, especially by a loyal volunteer.  It was all the total opposite.  The parent threatened me verbally and nothing was done.  I am 66 years old and I am way too old to be fighting a very angry 30-something woman who outweighs me physically.  I trusted my leadership.  I trusted my council.  Overall, I trusted the BSA.  That Youth Protection system is severely flawed.  There is no way this situation should have gotten to the extreme that it did and there are big losses across the board.  Our very small but progressive pack has lost a seasoned (almost 30 years experience), very loyal Cubmaster.  In my proudest moments, I can be seen at any given time in a scouting environment wearing the yellow shirt and blue pants, a dying breed in the Cub Scouts.  I could be relied upon to be available and participate in unit activities despite the distance I had to travel for meetings and events.  That was never a problem or concern for me.  Now, I must sit at home on meeting nights and worry about my scouts because now they are exposed to a system of corruption that should not be a part of an innocent scouting envrironment.  This parent has poisoned our pack so badly that there is no positivity there and everyone is afraid to speak and share concerns.  As for me, I did not want to be driven to the point where I needed to have some type of weapon close by to deal with this person when she goes on her direct verbal attacks against me.  The end result was I quit the program, very reluctantly.  I was not willing to subject myself to an environment that is so hostile that everyone looks afraid.  We were a fun pack.  I trust that my Cubs are doing ok and that this parent has not caused so much damage that the pack may evaporate.  I am not there but I miss it.  I miss being in uniform.  I miss doing something positive each night we have a meeting.  I miss doing things that make the scouts remember each and every night.  I love my scouts.  I am committed to the core.  But the program has abandoned me in favor of a bully.  I am a seamstress and I made this bucket hat and mask (photo below) set that I wear to every activity we did as a pack to include weekly meetings.  I am asking all who read this to share your opinions and input.  The question I want to present is:  Should there be an identical, enforcable, accountability system in place for adults who participate in scouting at any level?  Currently, this system only applies to the scouts and you know what happens to them if they are accused of bullying. Actually, nothing happens to them...but that's another subject.  
    • These are the silos. Aren't they missing the "program committee" or the "fun with a purpose committee?" Shouldn't that be half of those slots? I was always under the impression that a board was people from the outside with the ability to make changes and see the big picture of how the organization fit in to the world. And yet this board sounds like it reflects the silos in the BSA. Everyone wants to feel important so it seems these silos are set in stone.
    • They are all volunteers and pay for their travel to go to board meetings (though. since covid, the meetings have been video conferences).  Meetings are often at breakfast that the BSA has supplied in the past.  
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